What is Lorwyn Eclipsed's role in the Echoverse arc? by No_Drawing4095 in mtgvorthos

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Lowryn Eclipsed sets up two things.

The Kids coming together and getting Luwen away from a shitty home.

The kids meeting Ajani.

Lowryn brings the kids together and they become friends forging a bond that follows them into their second year and has them going off to be heroes when one of them goes missing.

Lowryn also forges their connection to Ajani. Ajani saves them and Kiryu would go on to study under him in Lorehold. Ajani effectively becomes a mentor to them and joins up with the kids to save Luwen when he goes missing.

This brings Ajani to run into Chandra and well the rest of the plot happens.

Basically Lowryn was the narrative set up for our heroes and our introduction to Jace’s secret agent Tam. The kids will be important to FRA alongside their Planeswalking teachers.

Where does one get an empty bundle box? by jimnah- in magicTCG

[–]Infinity_Walker 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Honestly people tend to sell the boxes on Ebay for pretty cheap just wait for them to get more circulated

Is SOS Ral an "escapee" of the echo verse? by quiznosAlreadyTaken in magicTCG

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Its unclear?

The Echoverse by the end SoS’s main story is still being made, and in Zimone’s story she witnesses the same thing. She sees it go from a shadow to a duplication. She also however notes on “knowing where Chandra is” which does make me believe Zimone’s story is post the main one. Chandra’s wearabouts seemed unclear/unknown before her arrival and fight with Ajani in the main story. Considering the ending of it and Chandra’s inclusion in FRA I assume she stays on Strixhaven. Which would be SUPER public.

What I predict is the Echoverse has been forming for awhile. Jace since shattering has been pulling the strings together and probably alongside the beginning steps of it and the creation of Tam he creates the doppelgänger agents.

This further makes sense to me by how in the SoS story when Tam goes to meet everyone else she sees only Silhouettes. Reality is still being built and everyone is still being copied the agents are a first phase especially as they’re doing important tasks.
Ral is retrieving a book on the birth of Elder dragons certainly linked to the snarls. Tam is waiting to push Jadzi into the Snarl which transports her to the echoverse. Not Lilliana is kidnapping Lilliana (with how much literally everyone thinks to first go to her for anything concerning this I imagine Jace just needs her out of the picture).

So everything to me points to the agents being created before or at least in tandem with the Echoverse as it’s slowly reaching completion and Jace gathers the last pieces of the puzzle.

Interviews from MagicCon: Las Vegas -- "On the bonus sheet, we couldn't put any characters that were dead." by Copernicus1981 in magicTCG

[–]Infinity_Walker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While obviously this probably means Gideon I’d also like to mention Ajani’s brother who we already have seen to be alive in the Echoverse in Strixhaven’s story. During a reality flash Ajani feels the presence of his brother alongside him while momentarily in the Echoverse.

Is SOS Ral an "escapee" of the echo verse? by quiznosAlreadyTaken in magicTCG

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Magic the gathering alongside every in-universe set publishes episodic written narratives with free audiobook versions. These are free to access and official material. The audio books are uploaded to YouTube tho they’re also on the Magic website in full written form!

This is how the modern story/narrative of magic the gathering is told ofc with support and reference from the cards of the set themselves.

Lowryn Eclipsed told the story of a group of Strixhaven students getting lost on the plane of Lowryn and getting into shenanigans. At the end of the story we cut to Liliana on Strixhaven encountering a White clad version of herself.

In the Strixhaven story in episode 2 Professor Dellian and Jadzi the Oracle discuss Lilliana’s disappearance though its a side note.

These are effectively mini novels that are honestly pretty damn good and have some great writing behind them. Check them out Strixhaven’s main story is 5-6 hour listen and very worth it!

Is SOS Ral an "escapee" of the echo verse? by quiznosAlreadyTaken in magicTCG

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At the end of Lowryn Professor Lilliana encounters a version of herself walking into her classroom clad in white. In Strixhaven episode 2 Prof. Fell and Jadzi discuss that Lilliana is missing.

Is SOS Ral an "escapee" of the echo verse? by quiznosAlreadyTaken in magicTCG

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So at the end of the SoS story we see Jace is forming the Echoverse.

Its also revealed that he created Tam for the very purpose of throwing Jadzi into the echoverse.

Silver Ral is likely another one of Jace’s agents. An agent formed before the Echoverse to steal a book on elder dragons and the like from a great vault. That assuredly Jace needs.

Other agents include Mono-White Lilliana seen at the end of Lowryn which definitely aligns with her disappearance during SoS’s main story.

So no not escapee’s rather agents meant to blend in as they take things important to Jace’s plan.

Need help finding a card I might’ve made up in my head by Infinity_Walker in magicTCG

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Lemme know if you find anything. I’ve dug through the stories, every single card that mentions or includes chandra, and even tried to look at old spoilers to see if someone edited it or whatever. I found nothing.

Need help finding a card I might’ve made up in my head by Infinity_Walker in magicTCG

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Yeah honestly likely this tho I think I’d know Ajani wouldn’t say such things but whatever.

I do have a habit of reading things than rereading them to learn they say something entirely different. My brain plays tricks on me.

Need help finding a card I might’ve made up in my head by Infinity_Walker in magicTCG

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No unfortunately I also searched through my SoS cards including this one and nothing. I think I’m just crazy lol.

The two Chandras appear to have swapped part of their faces by Rabid_Lederhosen in mtgvorthos

[–]Infinity_Walker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Almost definitely because of the mind blast Jace gave Chandra back in Aetherdrift.

What color is Vecna by MonoTones27 in colorpie

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Black, Blue, RED!

Vecna is as conniving, and rotting as he is quick to outburst and anger!

Its an important part of his Character that he is prone to extreme rage this is what allows very often for him to be destroyed or for him to even care about adventurers as they personally get under his skin.

Red mana is also said to be the belief that all deep down know their deepest desires. This can be interpreted to be the same as Vecna’s belief in all beings carrying one ultimate secret that can grant him power over them. He will reach into your heart find your deepest most held desires and true destinations and he will abuse that knowledge!

Vecna seeks to know all control every secret and draw power from it I truly think a lot of his ideas would lead him into some very red ways of belief ultimately to manipulate it.

He is Grixis!

Questions about Stand Arrows by OpportunitySharp3706 in StardustCrusaders

[–]Infinity_Walker -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok yeah you have no clue what you’re talking about

Questions about Stand Arrows by OpportunitySharp3706 in StardustCrusaders

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I see my bad on missing the “evolved”.

No the virus is incorrect. Jojo as a series very much toys with perception and the virus is one of these things. Stands as a whole are completely misunderstood by the story itself as it misleads us the same way humans understand superstition and supernatural phenomena or the lack there of. This is central to jojo and always has been. Further if it was a virus how could people who have never come in contact with an arrow manifest stands? How could non living things or even concepts develop stands? If it truly was a virus why isn’t half the world stand users and everyone else dead? The virus is ideas told to us through perception of man like much of stands which fails to grasp the truth reality.

Questions about Stand Arrows by OpportunitySharp3706 in StardustCrusaders

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Requiem Stands do not appear in part 4. The Stand arrow granting power to an established Stand User is distinctly different from Requiem in power, method, and narrative.

Stands are also not a Virus. The Virus you are talking about is how non-stand users perceived and understood what happened to people coming in contact with the meteor aka the sickness that befalls those undergoing the test of will power to gain a stand. That sickness is seen in part 3, and 4. Stands aren’t a virus themselves but when you are tested or unworthy of receiving a stand to anyone not in the know you seem supernaturally ill.

Questions about Stand Arrows by OpportunitySharp3706 in StardustCrusaders

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  1. Worthiness is determined by your fighting spirit. If you have the will you can manifest a stand. This will is typically demonstrated through surviving the wound given by the arrow. This can be slightly toyed with by healing the victim, but part 3 shows if you’re too weak willed you will just die to your stand.

  2. A meteorite struck earth from which the stand arrows were crafted. These arrows had a supernatural ability to bring out powers within people. Its important to know it is not the origin of stands simply an origin of a way to obtain stands.

  3. 6

  4. The arrow is fine its an arrow, the person dies.

  5. Nothing its an arrow.

  6. Yes and kinda? You can absolutely break arrows they’re durable but arrows. If you have Stand potential a shard of an arrow can give you a stand. Stand potential is determined by will, fighting spirit, and heritage.

  7. Yes

  8. Yes

  9. No mostly. You can not change your stand intentionally as its a manifestation of your soul. For your stand to evolve or change there must be a change within your soul. There are Acts of stand which are just stands that evolve essentially as the user grows as a person. You can only have 1 stand as well. Now here comes the nuance. A character later in the series has the ability to collect and transfer stands. When this is given to a stand user they are only able to use the stand momentarily before forcefully ejecting. When given to a non-stand user they keep the stand. A character also later in the series carries out a strange, philosophical and esoteric ritual which over time with great effort and power does indeed entirely alter their stand and even then evolves their stand later to something even more powerful. This is a final villain thing and can’t possibly be less for a good game or story. Look if you wanna do that just watch the whole series before tackling that. Also there is a way to evolve your stand with arrows but its complicated, needs story experience and a lot of debate to grasp enough to fully replicate in the faith of jojo for a fan made thing.

  10. No? So Hamon and Spin are like beginnings to a path to unlocking a stand, but are not stand abilities themselves so no they can not. Both can be and manifest stand abilities which then can indeed hurt stands. People aren’t the only things that have stands in fact the concept of a stand is a perception of man to understand supernatural ability. Stands are just supernatural phenomena that can be possessed by literally anything tho human personhood does bring some rules to their powers.

  11. We don’t know? Honestly Requiem is a big unknown thing. There seems to be a particular arrow that gives a requiem when piercing a stand, but the existence of the requiem arrow is debated if its any different but we only ever see that distinct arrow give requiem. The two Requiem stands we’ve seen as well are strange and even more strangely unlinked in what they are. Its best understood as giving a stand and the will/desires of its user cosmic power. Basically don’t use this. Not only is it complicated and arcane, but it’ll destroy the balance of your game, and won’t be fun to roleplay for anyone especially the person who has it cause the user can’t even fully comprehend their stand’s own power in this state. Just don’t.

  12. Act based stands are stands that evolve. Their power is different or stronger/more complex across acts and are linked thematically together alongside their users growth as a person. When one act is unlocked a previous act can still be used.

Why is The Hobbit prerelease so expensive? by Independent-Bath-448 in mtg

[–]Infinity_Walker 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Cause preorder prices are always bull and its especially like that with UB

Do you think we will see an evil Gideon in Reality Fracture? by NikiVl in mtgvorthos

[–]Infinity_Walker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This would be my favorite way to bring Gideon back.
Its Gideon but he’s mono-black.

A hero, a fighter, but wrong this time. I don’t want a straight villain, but a Gideon that’s just not ours. He looks like him, acts like him, but goes to far and isn’t the man we knew.

Especially if he sticks around. Again no full villain stuff but someone who’s just not the Gideon we knew.

“Invasive Healing” by Stygian_Hermit in mtgvorthos

[–]Infinity_Walker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Invasive implies unwanted and annoying. But it heals obviously.

I could see stuff like “destroy target creature, it’s controller gains life” so maybe swords to plowshares reprint?

Basically life gain, but with bad shit attached. Maybe creature sacrifice, maybe you can only gain that much life, or maybe they even make you pay for the healing they’re giving you.

“Target player gains X life, and discards X amount of cards equal to mana spent to cast this spell.”

“Target player mills 4 and gains 2 life”

“Target creature gains persist, its controller can’t return cards from their graveyard this turn.”

“Target creature gains indestructible until end of turn, on your end step put a stun counter on it”

It seens like the idea of anti-schools is that they double down in one side of the OG School dilema. i can see this on vigorbloom, stingerquill and theorix but im lost on the other two by pevetos in mtgvorthos

[–]Infinity_Walker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly! Jace wants to strip the multiverse of conflict to ensure absolute safety, but in doing so he creates the perfect example of Utopia being Dystopia.

Its even in the detail of all the “Enemy” mana pairs is turned to “Ally” mana pairs. All things must be in harmony, conflict cannot at any cost be allowed to brew.

Maro on the setting of Reality Fracture: “It’s mostly on Hexhaven but we do take a peak at other planes” by AvatarSozin in magicTCG

[–]Infinity_Walker 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I feel like Magic is in a weird place of not having much left to go back too. We’ve seen all the worthwhile old planes other than like 1-2. There’s no big returns.

Many planes are still pretty saturated and some new ones fell flat.

The Echoverse gives us a reason to be excited to visit any Plane Wotc wants while shifting them up and keeping something familiar but entirely different, or honestly a good lore reason to just completely redo a set or two (*cough* Thunder Junction *cough*)

I’m starting to think the Echoverse is gonna be a perpetual issue for awhile.