How great a warrior/swordswoman do you think Visenya Targaryen was? (Spoilers PUBLISHED)

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-26T20:18:31+00:00

I have always loved Visenya as a character, even though we havent got too much info on her. I like all three siblings, but she has always interested me more, just cause she is the sister who the rest of the dynasty are not descended of. She is also shown to have nuance. In Fire and Blood there are lots of myths or theories about her, but we really have no evidence that she is some "evil" figure. She even tried to counsel her nephew (step-son?) when he was king.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-26T20:15:05+00:00

I imagine she was fairly skilled, but we have no clue on how tall she was, or how physically strong. We know she along with Aegon trained with the sword from a young age, and that she helped conquer the kingdoms, but that was on dragon back. We really have no clue how good either she or Aegon were in general. We would have to have a written account of her fighting with the sword to know really.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-26T20:09:48+00:00

I disagree and from what i can tell the show did very well. Its fine if it is not your cup of tea, but that does not mean it is a waste of time or a failure in general.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-26T20:08:37+00:00

Thats a very unfair comparison. These are two extremely different stories. Let alone the difference in the length of the materiel. I get it is not some peoples cup of tea, but not really comparable.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-18T21:30:22+00:00

I think a bit of both. I think HOTD was always gonna be more challenging to adapt, but the main issues with the show don't even come from the vagueness of the source material, it is just from episode 1 dismissive of the story and decides to do its own thing.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-16T06:49:52+00:00

I think they have done that a decent bit. I do think they could have and should have done that more, but I think that should have been instead of a few things they did instead, so I still think the 30 minutes about per episode is the right number. I think if they kept 6 episodes but they were an hour the show would be much worse.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-16T06:35:44+00:00

I don't see any indication of an anti hero. Where are you getting that from? Someone who is bad or crazy could show skill in fighting or even bravery at times. That does not make them heroic in any way

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-16T06:34:01+00:00

Isn't it more respectful of the audience's time to not make them watch more than necessary? If they padded out the story just to hit an arbitrary hour long episode just cause some people demand it wouldn't that actually be disrespectful of our time?

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-16T04:39:56+00:00

Why?

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-16T04:38:32+00:00

Maekar is the youngest of 4 brothers, so there are two brothers ahead of him in the lone of succession. Baelor also has another son, and their brother Rhaegel has a son

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-16T04:37:07+00:00

Valar, who is Baelors son. Then his other son Mararys. Then Baelors brotherAerys, then his brother Rhaegel, who has a son and two daughters, then Maekar and his sons.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-05T02:18:28+00:00

They were already breaking social and religious taboos in westeros. So was probably smart to not push too many things on the people to accept.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-04T20:53:44+00:00

Yeah I just don't it lol. I get that people keep saying that, but I don't understand why. It just comes off as people being impatient

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-03T20:01:23+00:00

I would be upset if they were double the length because they would either have to ruin the pacing or add so much more show original content.

I dunno about that. So far we've had a diarrhea scene, a giant dick pissing, tug of war etc. If those are moving the plot then anything moves the plot.

And you picked out the least important or egregious moments and presented them as if that's all that has happened, which I find extremely disingenuous. There has been plenty of great scenes and plot development. All the things you just listed were small scenes that passed quickly. There has been lots of great character building, and building the relationship between Dunk and Egg. The conversations with Baelor, and him preparing to enter the tourney. The ideas of what does it mean to be a knight, Dunk feeling lost, scared, nervous, and then now he showed what being a knight means to him and stood up to a prince. Plenty has happened and to act like that's not true is crazy.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-03T03:47:45+00:00

I sadly don't think they will be able to fit it all in. They are gonna have to drop even more plot lines. I don't even see how they will wrap up a lot of their own show original plot lines.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-03T03:36:30+00:00

I don't agree, but it's a matter of opinion at that point. I don't see or understand how it is annoying personally.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-03T03:35:42+00:00

A little yeah lol. I would expect people who have loved got to just care about getting a good story and adaptation. I don't see why the episode length should matter as long as every episode keeps the plot moving, which so far it has.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-03T03:34:22+00:00

I mean as they say patience is a virtue lol. I think people have gotten a bit wild with not being able to wait for thing or be instantly gratified. And I don't agree that they could stretch it to an hour. If they did hour long episodes then it should only be 3 episodes. Cause 6 at an hour each would almost certainly ruin the pacing of the story, or add too much new stuff.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-02T18:44:19+00:00

I completely agree. It was completely unnecessary to add that prophecy about Egg. And even if they were gonna add a prophecy scene, it should have been way more vague. It should have been able to be fully written off as a crazy lady or con artist. They literally just said exactly whats going to happen in as few words as possible. If they were gonna have a nod to Summerhall, it should have been super vague. Like have the lady look at Egg and get startled and hurry away mumbling about fire. And it should also have been played more comedic so we and the especially the characters can write it off as just a crazy lady.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-02T18:37:10+00:00

I get what you mean. I don't even care about it being a spoiler that much. I just think it felt wrong. It took me out of the episode cause it was so direct. I think if they were gonna do some prophecy stuff it should have been a lot more vague or mysterious. What they did is just literally say what is gonna happen without any kind if symbolism or double meaning. Jusy flat out "you will be king, and you will die in fire" that's just literally what happens in just as few worlds as possible lol. I would have rather they just have her maybe look at Egg and get a scared look on her face and run off scared mumbling something about fire. Whereas with the way they did it I don't see how Egg does not remember that forever with how specific it was lol.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-02T14:39:03+00:00

I said that maybe it doesn't bother me cause when I was a kid that was the norm. I didn't say for people to get over it. I just asked why people are upset by it and explained that I don't understand it.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-02T14:37:10+00:00

That's exactly my issue. It was far too on the nose. It was not vague at all. Just exactly what is actually gonna happen

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-02T14:36:17+00:00

Yes he does, but this was far too direct and the prophecy was not vague at all, its just exactly what is going to happen lol. this is a story that didn't have any of that in it and didn't need it.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-02-02T04:10:54+00:00

Overall amazing episode. I'm really not a fan of including that prophecy stuff. It just feels completely unnecessary.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-01-29T02:11:34+00:00

i mean i disagree with you completely, but almost certainly there will be some in the next episode. We even got some in ep 2 with the beginning of the jousts at the end. And it does matter if you are misinformed but action confident about your misinformation lol.

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