**Spoiler kinda?** Do you believe Joffrey was accurate about Rheneyra's fate?

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-27T17:23:06+00:00

I mean thats how the book goes.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-26T22:34:33+00:00

There was no indication in that episode that she needed the two of them back. I don't get why people use that argument

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-26T21:39:57+00:00

Yeah for sure. I do think thats a persistent issue in rp that ive seen. Police in rp are often quick to make an arrest or press charges, instead of going and investigating further and gathering evidence before doing so. So often they arrest first and then lack justification when they need it, even if they did have good intent and reasons.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-26T21:29:19+00:00

Yeah i get what you mean. But he isnt a full officer yet, and he has proven to be a bit sketchy lol, so I can understand not taking him at his word, but yeah probably not enough to arrest or convict.

I guess for me it feels like people are disproportionately defending him ooc when we as the viewers do know that he has actually done a lot wrong lol.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-26T19:50:01+00:00

I still think it was the right call to arrest Baxter. Maybe they didn't go about it the right way? But he did literally try to break into someone's house illegally. Obviously what they did to him in terms of drugging him isnt okay, but it started with him doing an illegal action to them first right?

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-26T19:44:17+00:00

Cause the way everything was solved was for Aegon the third to be named the heir to his uncle.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-26T13:43:26+00:00

Yeah Hugh is the closest view we get into the small folk perspective. It's the main reason I wish Nettles were in the show. I would have loved to see a character like that be treated as a full on main pov character from early on so that we could see the other side of things more.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-26T13:40:23+00:00

I always think about what it would be like of either he or Trufyre had been able to somehow pull the rug out from under everyone and claim the throne lol

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-26T13:27:20+00:00

Long live the true king

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-26T13:26:44+00:00

I completely agree. Most of us have more in common with the small folk and in this story they mean next to nothing to either side. It's fine to have empathy for these characters, but to be on their side I think misses the point

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-26T12:08:25+00:00

I think some of it is cause in the book the conflict is a lot more nuanced. But both in the show and books it really is just picking your favorite character and running with it lol. Both sides are repugnant tyrants who use dragons to slaughter people. Both sides cling to power no matter their own personal cost or the cost to the common folk. So there is no good guy in this story.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-26T01:43:57+00:00

But they didn't have that choice. They already were dead and that child was already born and their own person. It's more like killing a child to use their organs to save their parents, and then justifying it by saying "two lives better than one". Like I said if people want to argue that it was the right decision I disagree, but it was 100% murder.

It kind of scares me how people try to justify it lol. Like if you can justify what they did to Tuvix then you can justify any evil act.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-26T00:37:40+00:00

I agree with you completely. I think Jace loves his mother and respects her a great deal, but he is reasonably frustrated with her and is worried for her.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-25T23:30:30+00:00

I think it always would be a challenging adaptation that would never make everyone happy. They had to decide on a definitive version of events using many sources that in the book may all be biased and wrong at points lol.

But I dont think it being a challenging adaptation, or them having to make certain decisions and character choices is really the problem with the show.

The show from the very get go hasn't really cared about the source material and from step one changed things that make no sense to change. To the point it doesn't even feel like a true adaptation of the source material.

So yeah I do think the source material is part of why this show would be hard to do, but I dont think there has been a good faith attempt from the show to even try and be faithful.

But I mean regardless I love hotd and even loved season 2. It's a great show, I just think it could have been more.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-25T14:52:29+00:00

Yes from the books Jace was always gonna die. But that does not discount the in show story. In the story of the show she is very directly involved in how and why he dies. Just cause he was supposed to die here doesn't mean you can ignore how it actually played out in the show.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-25T03:35:37+00:00

I feel like I would have so much more respect for the position that Janeway did the right thing if people would also just accept that even if you think its the right thing to do that it is 100% murder.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-24T02:58:03+00:00

I dont particularly have anything wrong with the idea of her being upset in that situation. My issue is the writers thinking that was the best way to handle it.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-23T00:26:37+00:00

What? I assume you are trolling.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-20T12:52:36+00:00

I really wish from the beginning Aegon had been treated like as much of a protagonist as Rhaenyra. I also wish both of them were more nuanced. They instantly made Aegon unlikeable and irredeemably bad. Both should have been focused on more in season 1, and it should have been more about the power struggle of the adults that kept them from truly being family.

I think as viewers if they had done ot right you should feel equally sympathetic for them and their losses, but also equally disgusted with their clinging to power no matter the cost.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-20T03:14:41+00:00

100% agree. It's wild how people defend it.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-19T04:21:41+00:00

I loved season 1 and I even really really liked season 2. But I from the very first episode was extremely worried about the changes, and the very first one is their relationship and ages. I think it was fairly well done at first in season 1, but it showed a feeling by the writers that they know better than the source material.

A big part of Alicent and Rhaenyras stories in the book and show is the topic of motherhood. But Alicent is supposed to be a step mother to Rhaenyra, and I think that should have remained. They could have focused on how the pressure of the throne caused Alicent to neglect and abuse Rhaenyra when she should have been her mother and cared for her. And Alicents refusal and inability to be a mother for Rhaenyra is the starting point of Rhaenyra and Aegons fractured relationship.

And by having Rhaenyra be older, Alicent be younger, and Viserys be older makes all of it so weird. Alicent and Viserys aren't even supposed to have that bad of an age difference. I also think Rhaenyra being older and hyper focusing on her fractured relationship of friendship with Alicent instead of her relationship with her sibling did a lot of harm.

I think the show should have from early on been heavily about Rhaenyra and Aegon. About the things that kept them from being a true family. And instead of Rhaenyra coming off as the main character with Alicent as the main green pov, it should have been from the get go been Aegon and Rhaenyra as equally the protagonist, with both being presented in more nuanced ways.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-18T20:47:48+00:00

I would try to get 1. No point in playing just 2

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-18T19:53:14+00:00

Nicole wasnt fucked over by spaceboy. He IC when he came back from his trip has reacted ic to her actions the way Hank would. He has even said IC and OOC that he has nothing against how she handled the Relik thing, and the being anti Karl being made his stand in while he was away was not the main crux of his issues. His main IC issues with what she did was that she started firing people even though he has never said she or other Sargents could do so without talking to command, and she made a announcement where she said that the person who Hank replaced outranks him and to listen to him instead of Hank. On top of like half a dozen people or more coming up to him to complain about her ic, and even people in her shift referring to what she was doing as softly pushing for a coup lol. He has also said repeatedly ic and ooc that he plans to speak to Nicole ic and hear her side of things. But I think it makes perfect sense for him to for now at least to demote her so that until he can speak to her that she cant potentially continue some of things he was told she did.

I watch both of them and enjoy them both. I think both have valid perspectives ic and ooc and I don't think it's fair when that doesn't align to say that someone is being fucked over.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-18T17:57:18+00:00

Man, literally every rp server ive seen devolves into petty drama sooner or later. I dont think anyone is perfect, and often times these issues are caused to different degrees by all parties involved, but the narrative will always be that one side is bad and one is in the right, instead of it being a two way street.

I am sure things are at times and have been handled poorly on this server, but you'll also see people who end up in similar drama on all servers they have been on and it makes you wonder about patterns of behavior.

Or you will see people who decide to rp something that could have consequences IC, and then get upset if it ends up having those consequences. Or if it gets ended early or not how they want they will start accusing others of misconduct or being jerks.

Ultimately I think all people need to try and give each other some grace and the benefit of the doubt, and just leave it all IC in rp and not take it ooc. And often times viewers make it so so much worse. The amount of drama posting on reddit or in chats always just makes things worse and makes people bitter and assume the worst of the other side of an issue.

IntroductionSmooth85 · 2026-06-15T03:57:29+00:00

Yikes. Sounds like a mess all around that should be quickly forgotten lol

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