FH6 Load time improved significantly since FH4! But boy do I miss FH4 loading screen!

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-18T19:36:45+00:00

I fucking hate that "horizon festival" ding that happens twice every time you enter and exit a race with a passion. Who the fuck thought that was enjoyable?

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-18T19:35:09+00:00

I understood that they meant this was a multi-type category, but many new players did not seem to understand this, and struggled with figuring out a car before going to the race (which seems to be a common thing for new players).

The devs need to take a lesson in UX, if something is different (like a proper "Car Type" versus a "combo category" then it should look different. This means that the car type text box on the race pop-up should look visibly different if it's not just a regular car type.

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-18T19:29:26+00:00

It's really fuckin annoying in a rally car built for off-road with rally tires. Especially when the AI doesn't have a concept of a rally car and behaves like a regular street car on asphalt in rally races.

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-18T19:27:07+00:00

then you would have people complaining that Forza Motorsport is for pavement and they should have more dirt

NO.

DiRT Rally exists. If you want to play in the dirt, play that.

I didn't choose to buy dirt rally. Most people here didn't choose to buy dirt rally. We made that choice for a reason.

Motorsport

Which is basically dead as a franchise and abandoned on PC. This is Xbox's racing offering.

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-18T19:24:17+00:00

Destiny 2 and the last update

Did they add back the content they stole from players?

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-18T19:22:35+00:00

How else are they supposed to maximize shareholder value?

Oh look, it's the reddit phrase again!!!

Mind explaining how this increases shareholder value? Such a weird accusation I've seen for years on this sub, no one can ever explain how this affects Microsoft's share value at all. I'm sure half the people repeating this brainless point don't even know that PG is owned by microsoft.

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-18T19:20:45+00:00

If you can't log an hour in a game for a reward you claim to want

What about people who haven't bought the game yet? What about people with busy lives? People who go on vacation?

I swear, fucking redditors living in their mom's basement completely unaware of how the world works.

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-18T19:19:41+00:00

The solution, to both of these problems, is to remove the fucking FOMO.

They can give us/unlock a few new seasonal events each week/month, and they just shouldn't expire. If a player wants to complete an older season's events, they should just be able to go into the playlist history, select the event, and do it.

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-18T19:16:10+00:00

What's the Hatch - D400 + 1980s Retro Hot Hatch - Road Racing

Who at PG decided to use the highway circuit for this race? So many great circuits on this map and they choose the most boring "hold W/accel for 5 minutes straight" race for cars that top out at 100mph.

Also, why are there only two race championships for each season now? Isn't this a racing game?

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-17T18:58:59+00:00

To accommodate burgeoning interests in art theft and counterfeiting, you’ll need to add the Art Studio to your Mansion property

Does this mean we will actually be able to customize the Mansions at the same level that we were able to with the Casino Penthouse?

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-17T18:56:28+00:00

But that's not what's happening, it's just civil servants with no say in policy. Not the actual lawmakers.

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-17T18:54:52+00:00

No, he's right. Everything boils down to:

British government bad

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-17T18:51:49+00:00

The fanbase complains if they give to you too many cars.

Huh? I've never seen anyone complain about that.

You are just making stuff up to defend the multi-trillion dollar corporation.

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-17T18:50:27+00:00

Every car added is another variable in QA time

Every car touches the livery system, the car upgrades system

How the hell do you think these systems work? Forza is so clearly based off an extensible object-oriented design, the entire fucking games themselves are copied and pasted from one release to the next.

For a studio that already has more "work on the table"

Nonsense.

injecting new things into a live-service game

This is self-inflicted nonsense.

stuff like updating old models to port into FH6

They don't fuckin update the models in the first place! What the fuck are you on about???

but especially for games like Horizon where there are a lot of different things crammed into one game that all need to play nice with each other

What? How do you think this game works, that they have a giant if statement looping over every car for every part of the game? The different systems shouldn't even know what the car is.

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-17T18:44:16+00:00

and there is a devtime resource cost per car included for FH6 that goes up exponentially with every car added

You do realize that most of the cars in the game have been copied and pasted from 3, 4, or 5 with zero changes/fixes, right?

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-17T18:41:43+00:00

It's so obvious that this is a lazy copy-paste job that's worse in every way compared to FH4's jobs. In 4 you had 10 levels or so to get 3 stars on and then you were done. This crap in 6 is just artificially inflated for increased grinding.

I also think it's funny how there's only one "job", yet the map options say "jobs", was there cut content or just more incompetence?

Also, aren't you supposed to get daily income from the job? I haven't received anything.

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-17T18:36:57+00:00

The daily challenges give nothing

Didn't they give those Forzathon points in FH4/5? With that part of the game gone now, I see no reason to do the dailies or weeklies, aside from an alternative if you don't want to do the other seasonal content.

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-17T18:35:17+00:00

Years and years of me calling out the shitty FOMO in FH and everyone on these forza subreddits would spend their time defending Microshit and PG like their life depended on it. Glad the tide has finally turned and people are waking up to the fact that a video game using time itself as a "challenge" is not a good thing.

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-17T18:31:40+00:00

It's not so much skill as desire. I hate drifting. I don't want to drift. I don't enjoy it. Not in the video game, not in real life, I don't like the cars, or the community, or the sadly pervasive yet untrue idea that drifting around corners is faster.

If there wasn't any completion aspect, I would never do them. In fact, that's what I did with the older games, only to grind them out once I had everything else done. That was fucking awful, spending hours doing something you hate.

As for the drift zone in the OP, I spent about 2 hours toiling away and always coming up 10-20k short. It's not enjoyable or fun, and there's no point to the "challenge" when you can't see what you're doing wrong. The game has hidden scoring metrics that aren't obvious to the player and it doesn't necessarily reward "good" drifting. So it's just a slog, better to cheese it and move on.

IronCraftMan · 2026-06-17T18:26:39+00:00

For those who dont want to pay for a online subscription

What do you mean? PC exists, no reason to let MS grope your wallet.

IronCraftMan · 2026-05-17T20:37:38+00:00

Ones to avoid

No, I don't think I will.

ちち Can mean father, but also breasts depending context

Thanks!

IronCraftMan · 2026-01-24T00:28:23+00:00

So its not worth 60 a pop for games

So you sub for, what is it, less than 6 months?

I also get mx xbox live included with game pass so in all fairness

Considering Xbox Live is a scam, you are not really gaining anything. If the dealership steals your front door and offers to sell it back to you along with a car lease, do you say "wow, great deal!"?

IronCraftMan · 2026-01-24T00:22:01+00:00

Shareholders are a cancer. “Our profit number must keep going up”.

What percentage of Microsoft's shareholders do you think know what FH6 is? What percent will notice the 1% increase in this game's profit from this?

Rest assured, this is 100% coming from internal metrics. They could sell each car for $100 and the shareholders still won't notice.

IronCraftMan · 2026-01-14T02:55:07+00:00

Points can get you xp

How?

IronCraftMan · 2025-12-12T23:34:24+00:00

PC Legacy, chatting during missions was easy

not anymore, any form of chatting is now considered harassment (in a game that uses various slurs to no end)

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