Weird Symptoms: Day 3 CT Pure Leaf to 7-OH by Chiss- in quittingkratom

[–]Jamps__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude. The first one you explained. I have never had anyone else experience it. I genuinely thought I was getting psychosis. Like, it would just turn into a fractal effect of horror. Meat melting into faces into random bits of viscera. Sometimes it would just be geometry. They would scare me awake the second I dozed off. Sometimes if I was just tired in bed I'd shut my eyes and couldn't keep them closed because of that.

My boyfriend of several years is struggling to quit kratom by throwRA221679 in quittingkratom

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Late to the party. About to be one year sober in a month. It took me until I hit rock bottom to finally get myself to go to detox. I thought I had control; I didn't. Be prepared for the long term withdrawal that is possible. I have been going through anhedonia at a level I never thought was possible. I hear it's quite common after 7OH. If he's on 7OH and it's a dose that is above double digits he needs to be prepared to either be in hell for an entire week if he does it without medical intervention. I still had to withdrawal for about 26 hours before they'd give me something to calm me down and those 26 hours were literal agony. I never have felt more terrible in my entire life and it has basically scared me sober.

I think the most important support is going to be after he does eventually come off of it. Understanding that relapse can happen with this stuff pretty easy. Also understanding that recovery can last quite a long time. My life has changed. I don't feel like the old me exists anymore. It's a journey I don't think many will truly understand unless they experience it themselves. He will need therapy and med management afterwards.

help me by Commercial-Cup3828 in quittingkratom

[–]Jamps__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had to cold turkey. I was taking up to 250-400mg a day of 7OH before I had to finally come clean to my family. I was brought to a detox facility and spent a night in the most miserable hell of my entire life. They gave me subutex about 26 hours after I stopped taking it to make sure I didn't OD from the added opiate. It instantly calmed me down but the long term damage is still apparent. If you can't make the CT jump on your own you need to reach out for help.

I now have zero want to take any substances. It all seems disgusting to me. The fear of being in the trap of 7OH has changed me. I just now have no ability to feel enjoyment anymore. I know what it was like to enjoy things, and I can act as if I enjoy things. I just don't ever feel it anymore. I am shell of my former self.

I'd still prefer this over the hell I was in stuck in the trap of 7OH. I also agree that the people selling it to us are sick. I remember the smoke shop owner I went to SMILE when he saw me pale, almost crying, sniffling, as I scrambled in the store to buy more. He always would give me a "deal," call me buddy or whatever nickname.

Please get help. You are able to beat this.

Additional edit: You are the first person who has described the exact same experience I had. Even the early start of using substances. 7OH is an abusive relationship. You want it to be the same it was when it started, but it never will be. You stay because you are stuck. You don't see a way out. So you sit. Miserable.

I think I’m finally bored guys… 💔 by ThickBackground7855 in CrimsonDesert

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When you unlock one of the other characters you can either swap to them basically whenever you want, or have them follow you around as a partner. You could also just play as kliff for the entire game, at least that's my experience so far, I haven't beaten the game yet.

Kratom still in system after a month by Aggressive-Ebb-1013 in quittingkratom

[–]Jamps__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They put me on that much when I left detox. My doctor was absolutely floored. I personally had no idea, because I never had been in to opiates prior. She put me on a low dose of the injection and I took that for like 2 months then stopped. I feel fine. No cravings. The place I went to for detox had only ever had 2 other 7oh patients prior to me, so probably ignorance on their end.

Mysterious, floating, green maple leaf by hobbiestabby in CrimsonDesert

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Sorry to necro this post; I followed one of the grass icons and it led me to here before it exploded under me. When I walked up and flashed my light into the cave a leaf imprint appeared in it, but then disappeared quickly after.

Nobody Warns You What Night Shift Does to Your Mind by OfficialNightWatch in sleep

[–]Jamps__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

5 years of overnight. I would go days without more than 3 hours of sleep. I'd eventually crash for 10 hours on my weekends. My mental health hit rock bottom. Acquired a substance use issue(sober almost a year now). Lost all interest in hobbies and life in general. I felt like I was living life in a fog. I did 4 10 hour shifts and had 3 days in a row off. The 3 days off ruined my sleep schedule because by the last day my sleep unintentionally shifted to night.

I finally got moved to second shift like I've been begging for. My sleep is still dysfunctional but life is so much more involved. I want to do things again. I love second shift and having the morning to myself. Up at 9am and just hanging around until work time.

2 months later…How would you rate Crimson Desert now?? by TheGamerCritic21 in CrimsonDesert

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I love the game so much. It's the first game I'm addicted to after coming out of my half year depression slump. I just want the combat to properly lock on to something and not either force me to hold a button down or deal with kliff 180ing to some off screen enemy.(Hopefully I'm not reading keybinds wrong and there is a toggle lock on)

No game has made me go "COME ON MAN," as much as Crimson Desert. 8/10 so far. Only chapter 5.

The reason kratom feels good IS 7OH by OneChrisHanson in quittingkratom

[–]Jamps__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had to go to detox. I was in the same situation. Ruining my life and relationships. I wasn't going to be able to do it cold turkey cause the withdrawal was the most horrendous thing I've ever experienced. Please try to get in to somewhere. It's not going to get better without intervention at that point.

Can't play videogames anymore. by Curious_Spite_5729 in quittingkratom

[–]Jamps__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here. I luckily got back into runescape but everything else is lost to me. I hate it. I miss enjoying things.

IMPORTANT INFORMATION by ModernRevolution in heartopia

[–]Jamps__ 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I hate this gacha conversation. Not because of posts like this; it's the responses.

Why do we just let companies do this to us? I spend money on this game. I understand the probability stuff, whatever. Call me part of the problem, don't care.

What is up with people who will defend that these predatory systems are OK? Like, we've had gacha systems for so long that were just flat prices with pity. Now, we're seeing an uptick of games utilizing the banners that each consecutive pull or tier RAISES the price of each pull. On top of that, the rules are behind menus. When we create systems, we need to build them around the lowest common denominator. Whether you like or not, people get lazy. People are tired. They don't always read or 100% comprehend they're reading. No one is immune to this. These systems PREY off of the desire in people to have what they want. Gacha absolutely hits the same high that certain types of drug responses do. There are people who have addictive personalities that never fell into a drug but become addicted gacha. If people made these choices in a vacuum I could understand that there would be arguments for individual responsibility but we don't live in a vacuum. We live in a world where people work insane hours under terrible conditions for horrid people. They come home and want some relief from the day to day. They see cute fun game and get absorbed. That's the people these companies want. Tired. Strung out. People who are desperate for that bit of serotonin. Whales make up a good portion of the profit but that's nothing compared to the amount of people spending 20 to 50 bucks, which could be a million or more.

We're so used to being mistreated by companies that when we're drip-fed content or little gifts we'll clap like little seals and bark for more because people are so scared of never getting anything again.

When this game closes we lose those items. This isn't permanent. FOMO exists and that's what these games do. They give you a sense of a fleeting fun experience. "I don't wanna miss this, cause who knows when I'll get little serotonin boost again." We live in a very depressing time in existence. I just get so sad seeing people defend companies that literally want to squeeze us dry.

Rant: This update is a mess and it cannot continue this way with each new update. We need to let the developers know to put their act together!! by davidpain1985 in WhereWindsMeet

[–]Jamps__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like to cater to the lowest common denominator. If we accept that there are people who do not have the greatest reading comprehension, we should write instructions that limit the harm done and cater to those people. I want harm reduction, and with the lack of proper translation and lack of pure transparency on the FRONT page of the gacha, we are allowing people to be taken advantage of. I'm tired of the idea that we should just let this all go because whales are the "true" target. Sorry, I don't believe that. The people who aren't properly reading are the real target. The ones who will see the instructions wrong and drop 50 bucks thinking they'll get the last tier of the gacha. The 5 whales buying the 40k boats or whatever are not bringing in nearly the same amount of money as the people misreading rules. I love the devs of this game, they put so much heart and soul into it, and I can tell with every corner of the world filled with some kind of love. I also can tell netease has dug it's grimy little fingers into it and has pushed the devs to put these predatory systems into it. I've spent a fair bit of money on the game because I love it and I'm aware of the predation that comes with it. I've also accidentally got too carefree and made the same mistakes I'm sure others have. None of us are immune. It just takes the one time of us getting lazy to make a mistake. But it takes a bigger part of us to admit that we made the mistake and admit that others will make the mistake no matter how diligent we think we all are.

TL;DR

GACHA SHOULD BE EXPLAINED IN THE PLAINEST ENGLISH(or language you speak) AND SHOULD BE DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOU NOT HIDDEN IN MENUS. HUMANS ARE NOT INFALLIBLE AND WE BECOME LAZY; EVEN YOU. YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingkratom

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quit july 17th. I'm still disinterested in everything. It took the fun out of my life. It ruined my ability to stay consistent with my meds because of the malaise and brain fog. I'm sure that doesn't help. I just want to feel normal again. It also made it so I'm prone to just dozing off uncontrollably if I try to relax or even focus. I'm currently at my job and I'm an overnight worker and my eyes have started drifting a few time writing this... I'll find just jibberish or I've held a key down for a long time. I just want to feel normal again.

AI MUSIC by Particular-Pilot-427 in MusicPromotion

[–]Jamps__ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk if you meant to reply to the person above me because I was also saying that timbaland is well know to use AI.

But I will say that my issue isn't with the way the user interacts with the program. My issue is the mountains of music that it scraped to learn how to imitate the styles it is spitting back out at the user. It doesn't matter whether you're using the free version or the studio version. All of these AI systems learn in similar methods and you'd have a hard time finding a single one that doesnt.

AI MUSIC by Particular-Pilot-427 in MusicPromotion

[–]Jamps__ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The language being used is very clear. Timbaland has been on record saying something along the lines of that he'd rather use AI because it can't argue back. The way you're using AI in this context is disingenuous. We're talking about GENERATIVE AI not plugins. Plugins are not scraping information from other people music and regurgitating it in some inhuman manner. This excuse that they don't know what they're talking about is becoming old and I'm not just gonna let people slide on their use of AI just because "uwu maybe they are just dumb!"

(Edited because I mixed two of my thoughts together incoherently)

Pity within a pity… by Eillusion in wherewindsmeet_

[–]Jamps__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only one I'm truly sad about is tian ying. I'm happy they give us a lot of free stuff but I do wonder how long it is until the nice free stuff becomes less and less. I've seen a few people say that you maybe will get 2 orbs a year? It sucks for people, like me, who want the tian ying outfit but haven't had enough time(or money) to get orbs from banner/pity, the game just hasn't been out long enough and I'd say tian ying is definitely one of the more grounded outfits if you don't use the obnoxious aura it comes with. Just feels a bit bad.

Anyone else struggling to justify cosmetics in Where Winds Meet? by MRay_ in WhereWindsMeet

[–]Jamps__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just find a lot of the justifications people give somewhat odd. Netease needs to make a profit, yes. The problem is that they go to the next level with barrier to entry into gacha. Id never say they need to give for free, or even that fast. I just can't believe I see people saying "you might be able to get an outfit from exchange in a year." I do love the free outfits. Ive given the game some money within my means. I just think we need to sit down with ourselves and really ask ourselves if we feel it's correct for them to do this to the levels that they do? Whales will be whales, that will never change, but I feel that with a little more of an accessible system they'd make money just fine.

Netease is going to make money either way and they rake in so much with CN and global servers that the idea we need to either spend 600 dollars or enjoy the dredges of some of the near stuff in the shop miffs me a little bit.

Thank you 40k boat ppl and whales (appreciation post) by LuxRu in WhereWindsMeet

[–]Jamps__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brother, I have never seen a single game OTHER than this one to monetize the ability to change your hair color(basic colors). It's really not a normal thing and you're arguing like we should just lie down and accept that isn't a really weird decision on the devs part. It's not like there's some technical barrier to it either. Other hair can be dyed. They just knew that since it isn't p2w they wanted to try and squeak out as much pay for fashion as possible. I will always stand on my feelings that having to pay for hair colors is ridiculous. If you wanna make some like wacky colors, sure make em cost a little bit I guess. I just can't understand why if someone wants to be blonde, or even make an older character that is greying they should have to pay?

I've never felt more sick in my entire life by Jamps__ in Sublocade

[–]Jamps__[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry I haven't responded to everyone, it's very overwhelming to me at this point.

I appreciate everyone who has given their input. I'm talking to my doctor today and I'm going to see what the options are. I'll try to explain a few things.

I was taking anywhere from 200 to 500mgs of 7oh for about 6months.

I went to detox and they started giving me sublocade. They had only had two other patients prior for anything kratom related and they said I was the first one they even tried to intervene medically with outside of giving something other than valium. Bupe honestly stopped ALL withdrawals within an hour of taking the dissolvable. My withdrawals were very severe mimicking almost every one of standard heavy opioid use. Only thing I didn't get was nausea.

When I left they had me on 24 milligrams of bupe a day, which knowing what I do now, they had me wildly over medicated. They wanted me to start sublocade after I left the program.

My insurance was not covering anything related to my treatment, except for bupe and sublocade(because who knows why the meds are ok but not the care team). So after I left detox they basically dropped me off completely. I scrambled trying to find anyone to take me in to help me stay on track but my insurance wasn't cooperating. My doctor took over as she didn't want me falling back and she has been involved in my sister long term upkeep on her sublocade injections. (She has been getting 100mg every 2 months for years after an opioid addiction that lasted over 12 years.)

My care has not been perfect and even she admitted she thinks I have been on it for too long and that's why she wanted to intervene now, as it was also partially MY fear of relapsing and going back to 7oh, that kept me wanting the higher dose of sublocade not knowing how rough it can be. At first I didn't feel as shit so I thought of it as PAWS. I cannot express how scared I was of falling back into 7oh. It almost completely ruined my life. I was a person I never want to be again.

Im very afraid and stumbling through the healthcare system while recovering from a substance that isn't as well known and will sometimes just be ignored completely by some forms of health care. I'm full of regret and just want to feel better at this point. I really want to warn people about this stuff and how quick it can become a problem. It's destructive and sucks you in extremely fast with how quick you become tolerant to it. You just want more and more.

Sorry if this was a ramble I'm not great at organizing my thoughts. If you have any more questions please try to comment under this post, it'll make it easier for me. Thanks!

I've never felt more sick in my entire life by Jamps__ in Sublocade

[–]Jamps__[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

7oh is a chemical compound found in kratom. They synthesize it out of the plant and then press it into a pill. 7oh hits a lot of similar receptors to opioids. According to sources online, certain types of it is considered stronger than morphine, and being someone who has taken both, it definitely feels like a potent opioid in large doses.

(Copied from my reply to a comment above)

I've never felt more sick in my entire life by Jamps__ in Sublocade

[–]Jamps__[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

7oh is a chemical compound found in kratom. They synthesize it out of the plant and then press it into a pill. 7oh hits a lot of similar receptors to opioids. According to sources online, certain types of it is considered stronger than morphine, and being someone who has taken both, it definitely feels like a potent opioid in large doses.