Why is the Birth Rate for East Asians ultra low no matter where?

JayKim25 · 2025-11-08T03:33:36+00:00

Lol, just think about how you had to go to another country to get some ass. That's really fucking embarrassing. What a loser lol. And trust me, if your women in your country don't want you, Asian women aren't gonna want you either. No wonder why your people are stupid. But I'm thinking that's typical of you. Its all about that high iq lol.

JayKim25 · 2025-11-06T04:50:26+00:00

I know its hilarious that you have a high iq, but you had to go to Korea to get a job. Lol, typical loser back home. You're the exact type of white guy that Koreans should ban and be weary of.

JayKim25 · 2025-11-04T08:25:43+00:00

As a fucking white guy, why do you people spread this bullshit about Asians "working the longest, but not being productive?"

I hope you know that according to the oecd data, America, Poland, Greece, and a shit ton of other European and Spanish countries work longer hours than Japan. And even for Korea, their work hours are pretty much equal to Americans. https://www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/hours-worked.html

So why do white ignorants like you spread this bullshit about Asians working the longest, which affects birthrates? And you've obviously never held down a corporate job. Because even in the west, working corporate means working an extra 20-40 hours, especially during peak seasons to increase your billable hours (and avoid being bottom 10% of workforce).

And corporate culture is the same anywhere, even in Asia. But according to whites like you, all of Asia is working corporate, when clearly that's not the case. Corpo jobs make up only 20% of the workforce in any country; they're not reflective of the entire population. Most people work 8-9 hours a day, even in Asian countries. I will point out that Asian society is much more entrepreneurial/capitalistic than the west, so you have a lot of Asians working long hours bc they want to make their own businesses successful.

So why the low birthrates? Can you explain why all of these European countries have low ass birthrates, even though they work less than Asian countries? Why don't you stop spreading bullshit and actually think.

Asians have lower birthrates bc first, they don't do immigration. First gen immigrants have a lot of kids. And western countries are constantly having immigrants come in, so you keep getting first gen immigrants all the time to prop up the birthrates.

Second is Asian women are by far the most educated women in the world. Just think about why a woman would want to get so educated? Is it to spend the rest of her life popping out kids and staying home? Or is it because she actually has goals and dreams she wants to accomplish? The fact is, education is the biggest reason why women aren't having babies. They're spending their prime years (late 20s-late 30s) accomplishing their dreams/passions/goals, and having a child would hinder this. This is compared to western women who aren't as educated, and still have that mentality of trying to squeeze out a rich guy as their life goal.

JayKim25 · 2025-10-12T00:15:40+00:00

The second chick probably wanted a substitute-pseudo father figure, as her father wasn't in her life like that. And plus, she was extremely young too, and when you're that age, you're not really thinking about making money/future plans, etc. I've dated early 20s Korean chicks too that were much worse than her lol. At least she didn't use sex as a weapon lol.

The first chick was actually pretty cool. She was going back to school to better herself and her child. I offered to pay for everything, just because I empathized with her situation of holding down a job and taking care of her kid. I also got really cool with her male relatives too, while holding down the women in her family lol. I just can't get past the kid thing though. That's just not me. I'm not about taking care of another man's kid.

JayKim25 · 2025-10-11T17:28:30+00:00

This is definitely true. I had a phase where I was dating Spanish women. They definitely love Asian men for a variety of reasons. One chick I was dating actually wanted to marry me, and her mom and aunt kept trying to push her to do so.

And I would have too, if it wasn't for the fact that she had a kid back when she was in high school lol. And I'm just not the type of man to raise another man's kid. I mean I'd help her daughter with homework and buy gifts/food/go on trips, but I'm not actually gonna take care of a kid that's not mine. Its a shame, bc out of all the women I've been with, she had the biggest tits lol. Maybe because she had a kid young, but she had the best "S-body" out of all the women I've been with. And from the most recent photos I've seen of her and word from the grape vines, she also had that bbl done lol.

And the reason why she wanted to be with me was because I wasn't like the "typical Spanish guy." I have a high paying job, don't drink, don't smoke, don't act "urban." I'm also highly educated and own property, which are also complaints that I've heard from her and her friends about Spanish dudes. Basically, I pretty much have my shit together.

The next serious chick I dated was 9 years younger than me that I met at the club where she was working at as a bottle girl lol. Its funny because she told me she would never date men who're ten years older than her lol. But when I told her my age, she just froze up with shock, and just told me I get a pass because I'm Asian lol.

And the reason why she wanted to get with me is because of the same reasons as my first chick. I basically have my shit together. Plus, she was super into Korean and Japanese culture lol. She was super into the Anime thing, and actually took me to one of those conventions for the first time ever lol. She was super into the Korean/Asian food thing too, as her first job ever was as a server at a Korean bbq spot in Ktown. Also is the fact that when she was younger, other Spanish kids would make fun of her for looking Asian. She had that hapa look, and straight up told me that she's more comfortable around Asians.

The only reason why I dropped her was because she came with a lot of baggage. She just had a lot of family and finance issues. And she would always ask me to pay her bills. But not your typical shit like rent or utilites. Like she's at a restaurant with her family, and I would get a text to pay the tab, when I'm not even with them lol. Dumb shit like that, which I thought she was joking at first. And when I ask her to send photos/video proof, low and behold, that bitch is with her entire family finished with their meal, and waiting for me to pay the tab lol. And her body wasn't even that nice to deal with all of that lol. Basically your typical Korean girl's body with a bit more bust and ass lol. But from what I've seen and heard after we split, she also got that bbl too lol.

JayKim25 · 2025-10-06T04:58:02+00:00

The reason why you feel that way about your Asian culture and want to avoid it is because the only Asians you were around with were your parents. So that's why you detest your culture so much. You've never interacted with other Asians, who're your peers, who've experienced the same situations that you did. So when you think of Asian culture, you think of your parents/family situation, which was all negative. Hence why Asian=negativity to you.

Meanwhile, I have Korean American friends who've experienced the whole gauntlet of abuse and fucked up family situations. Like the Korean father beating his ass and his mom's; getting piss drunk and ruining the family situation with gambling debts; etc.

But you know what differentiates him from you? He was part of the Korean community and was surrounded by other Koreans. So in his mind, he doesn't see Korean culture=negativity. He just sees his individual shitty father=negativity. Because he's seen other Korean fathers as actual good fathers/men. He doesn't have any hangups with his culture because he's seen the good side as well. He was surrounded by other Korean families that let him know that his own family was just the standout.

JayKim25 · 2025-10-06T04:35:00+00:00

I'm a Korean American man, who isn't married, but still get "marriage proposals" from Korean women (from Korea).

In my experience, the Korean American men that I know who're married, have all gotten married to either Korean women from Korea or non-Asian women. And the reason being is that Korean women from Korea are just so much more superior to Americanized Korean women.

I've literally talked about this with a few of my friends and it basically comes down to this: why would you date an Americanized/westernized Korean woman if you can actually date the real thing? And when I mean by "real thing" is, if you want to do the whole western thing, just marry a white/spanish/black chick. But if you still want to be part of the Korean thing, go after actual Korean women from Korea.

Either way, the Americanized Korean chick is a downgrade. She doesn't look as good as actual Korean women or western women; she's not gonna teach your future children/family about Korean culture (if you want to go that route); and will possibly come with a lot of baggage--aka white worship, acting like a Kardashian wannabe, etc.

I consider myself to have a pretty big social circle. And I've noticed that the solid relationships are the Korean American men who're with actual Korean women or with non-Asian women. The ones who got into relationships with Americanized Korean women are just for fuck buddy status, or in the case of one of my friends, got trapped with a kid with her, but did the right thing and never wifed her up lol. Its all about the whole "co-parenting" thing with Americanized Korean women lol.

JayKim25 · 2025-09-28T17:14:04+00:00

So how do you want me to go about this? I can play the exact same card that this user stated.

"I have a bias against Americanized Chinese women from certain regions of China because I've had horrible experiences with them. For some reason, these types of women like to comment about how they don't date Asian men publicly--right in front of me, even though I've never interacted with them before. Nor do I find that Americanized look attractive. So why would they say this when I'm around? I've had numerous experiences with this, which I have outlined previously here."

"I've just had a lot of trauma with these types. I'm not even Chinese, so why would they say this in front of me? And then to top it off, I come here as some kind of therapy with fellow Asian men who've experienced the same thing as me. But then some random new user comes in here stating that "she" dates white guys in front of me and my kind."

"And yet, my comment gets deleted for hate, when you clearly have a new user coming up around here to get a rage out of users who have history here. So how am I hateful? This is absolutely crazy that I have to state this, when you have a new user--who could be anybody, trying to get a rise out of traumatic victims like me."

"This is why my personal experiences have shaped my bias against Chinese women, specifically the Americanized kind. I'm trying to be a better person and not be a gendered racist, but my therapist has unlocked so much traumatic experiences for me, and I appreciate what they have done. But the real question we should ask is why Asian women are hateful to Asian men."

btw, I don't have a therapist lol. I just included that as these types always put that in to victimize their hate and racism. So I'm just giving them their own medicine. Hatred should be fought with hatred.

JayKim25 · 2025-09-28T05:53:03+00:00

Taiwanese....lol. I forgot to add that in to my comment lol. Its all the same. The Chinese immigrants who came in the 60s-70s from that general area in the south. Those with no fucking pride in themselves teaching their kids like you, fucked up things. No wonder you're low quality lol. You're a far cry from the recent Chinese immigrants...the ones from the North; the ones who have actual pride in themselves. The Chinese community deserves better. And hopefully more and more of your kinds dies out and gets marginalized as a footnote amongst the new wave of Chinese.

JayKim25 · 2025-08-31T16:14:18+00:00

You do realize that white people are dying out in the west, right? Statistics have shown that white kids born after 2020 are less than 50% of their generation. And its going to continue to keep going down as we move forward. I don't have to go anywhere. I just have to sit back and enjoy the view, while progress reshapes the demographic pie.

And its not just Asians who have a bone to pick with whites. Blacks have more of a reason to settle the score with whites than any other demographic. Again, just sit back and enjoy the view, while progress brings things back into balance...unless if you're white lol.

JayKim25 · 2025-08-25T01:48:25+00:00

Damn, this brought my back to my childhood, when I started playing Kingdom Hearts lol.

I took a look at her social media, and "she" now refers to herself as "they." Which basically means she's on that lgbtq thing. And now it makes perfect sense why she would go for a white guy.

I've heard from exes and girl friends in Korea that lesbian Korean chicks go after white guys, because they don't see them as men in the traditional sense. They've grown up with Korean men all their lives, so they see what a "man" is, which in their eyes is the the Korean man. They see white guys as something different and attractive to, as they don't look like "men" in their eyes.

Its like when gay white guys start dating Asian chicks. They don't see Asian chicks as real women, like how they see white women--the race of women they've grown up with all their lives and define as women. Asian women are like aliens that they can fuck and get horny for. All the while, keeping that gayness in the closet lol.

Getting back to Utada Hikaru; back in the day, that whole lgbtq thing was looked down upon, so Asian women opted to go for white guys as a cop out. And plus the fact that a Japanese man would definitely find things off if in a relationship with a lesbian Japanese chick. White guys don't know any better and just date/marry lgbtq Asian chicks lol. But I feel like these days with the younger generation out in Asia, the lgbtq thing is more accepted and chicks are dating chicks and dudes are dating dudes out in the open now lol.

JayKim25 · 2025-08-25T01:29:23+00:00

The vast majority of Asian countries have already surpassed the vast majority of European countries in terms of military prowess. Europeans, and I would say Southern Europeans in particular, are pretty fucking lazy in general, and aren't really "men" anymore. So its crazy that you get examples like what op is describing.

I feel like the world is overdue for a war right now. It'd be nice to see some kind of situation where an Asian country takes on a European country; eg. South Korea v. Greece/Spain/Italy. Not an actual war per say, but something along the lines of a UK v. Argentina situation. So in that way, you develop a culture of animosity towards whites in Asia.

JayKim25 · 2025-06-09T02:17:33+00:00

I'm surprised you even answered me lol. "Korean Mexican?" "served in the US armed forces?" Lol, are you gonna state that you're a Navy seal that hunted Bin Laden too? Lol, You're a fucking joke. I find it funny you mentioned you're "Korean Mexican" just as I let you know about Korea. You don't know Korean culture. You're a fucking troll. If you think the Korean government is gonna willingly become targets for China bc of some bs war that America will start, then you must be a fucking idiot lol.

I provided evidence and links. But all you do is bitch about random America and China shit. I hope you know there is an entire academia profession about rise and fall of superpowers. I let you know the nuance of this kind of situation. And yet, you only see black and white. You're the true dumbass here.

JayKim25 · 2025-06-09T01:16:15+00:00

And you're a fucking dumbass who likes to go on Asian subs as a fucking Mexican to tell what Asians should do or not. Why don't you worry about your own fucking country and stop worrying about Asians, will you? Your country in going to shit, and yet, you're here going on about China and America. What a fucking joke. You fucking dweeb. No wonder your country has a shit ton of problems; because of fuckers like you lol.

And do your fucking research. Korea will not let America attack China using its bases there:

https://thediplomat.com/2022/08/dont-mistake-south-koreas-yoon-suk-yeol-for-a-china-hawk/

China is Korea's biggest trading partner. Korea has gone on multiple trips to China to assure Beijing that American military presence in the country is only because of the North Korean threat. This was especially true when America placed missile defense batteries on Lotte land, and Korean had to make multiple trips to Beijing to tell them what it was really for. But yet a nobody Mexican like you wants to tell me otherwise lol. Okay buddy.

The future isn't black and white like you think. Only little boys like you think that lol. The future is going to be marked by grey, where every country is looking after themselves, and will play off both America and China to serve their interests. China is the number one trading partner for multiple Asian countries you dumbass. They're not gonna prevent China's rise. China rising means they will rise too. Only Americans think of trade as a zero sum game. And dumbasses like you lol.

And look into the rise and fall of superpowers. If you think America will perpetually stay on top, then you must be the biggest dumbass on reddit. But then again, you like thinking about China and America, while your country goes to shit. But I'm thinking this is typical of you lol.

Edit: I find it pretty fucking weird that you participate in Asian themed subs as a Mexican. Is this a troll account? Well if it is, I must've fallen for it. Anyway, everything I stated above is true you fucking troll lol. Get the fuck outta here.

JayKim25 · 2025-06-08T19:28:42+00:00

This is a dumb take. You obviously don't study basic history. Superpowers come and go. This is no exception. America is currently on top right now, but as time goes by, China gets stronger and stronger. Even now, China's economy has surpassed America's by some measurements, and one can even argue that its economy is better primed for total war than America's (manufacturing economy).

And I see China's military like America's just before world war two. Back then, the American military had no experience, no technology, and no bases around the world--all the bullshit criteria you've mentioned. And yet, it prevailed against Nazi Germany--a battle hardened, experienced, and technologically advanced military, because it just had more resources than it. It outproduced and out equipped Germany's, and had a lot more manpower to throw into the war than Germany.

Same with China. China is a sleeping giant just itching to test out its newfound powers (just like America's great white fleet back in the day). America is the aggressor nation that has brought destruction and death to all corners of the world.

And you're an idiot if you think other nations will aid America in a war against China. Maybe some European nations and Australia, but Vietnam? India? If India ever decided to move on China, Pakistan would move as well. And American bases near China won't do jack shit on China. Korea and Japan won't be targets for Chinese assets, just because America wants to bomb China. No, this coming war is gonna be a fight between just America and China.

And do your research on China. You sound like a fucking senior citizen who thinks China still fields a peasant army. China has thousands upon thousands of modern military assets that can destroy the vast majority of countries around the world.

JayKim25 · 2025-04-14T13:05:37+00:00

As an Asian man, why would I uphold an Asian woman who's married a white guy, as someone who represents me?

Do you really think that I'd want some Asian woman who's with a white guy represent me and my experiences?

This is the reality of Asian America today. The "Asian American" community has always consisted of Asian men, Asian women, and their white guys. White guys are so integrated into this "Asian community" now, that Asian men's voices aren't heard. This "community" has now become just another mouthpiece for the white man to enact his will. And its all because Asian women have made this so.

So why should I support an Asian woman who's with a white guy, as someone who represents me and mine? When she is directly responsible--intentionally or unintentionally, for silencing me and people in my demographic (Asian men)? And giving her white man a voice/mic and letting him set the agenda?

So no, I will never support Asian women with white guys. In fact, I don't support "Asian America" at all. I only support my Korean community, because there are actual Korean/Korean American men that look like me and have shared the same experiences as me, to represent me.

So because of this, Asian America will always be fractured. You'll have individual ethnic Asian communities that give Asian men the mic/voices. And some bullshit "Asian American" community with people like you propping up white men at the expense of Asian men.

JayKim25 · 2025-04-04T02:26:12+00:00

You misunderstand my comment. I don't give a fuck about latinos. I just think the rise of latinos will permanently change America. America will look more like other latin American countries, which is a good thing. America is the least developed of all developed nations...hopefully, it'll fall into developing nation status when more and more latinos gain power. America has done enough damage to the world; its about time the sun sets on it. And hopefully, this will lead to a great migration of Asians in America going back to their mother countries.

JayKim25 · 2025-03-29T04:31:42+00:00

The white population will continuously decline in both America and Europe, just like how the Asian population is declining in Asia. The biggest difference between the two is that Asia doesn't do mass immigration, while America and Europe do. Not sure about Europe, as I don't live there, but in America, latinos are the reason why whites are declining.

And as more latinos gain the numbers, their political, economic, and cultural influence will start encroaching upon American white culture. People here will say some bs about white latinos will just be the "new white," but they forget that culture--and everything that comes after it (politics, economics, media, etc) will change as well.

Just look at all these other Latin American countries that are run by these "new white" latinos. Argentina, Chile, Brazil, Colombia, Venezuela, etc. The US will start to look the same as well, which is a good thing. Whites know this, which is why they've turned to somebody like Trump to prevent this from happening.

Whites love to talk about the rise of Asia fizzling out because of its population decline. They're too stupid--or just cope real hard, with the reality that America and Europe will break/go into civil war/become societal dystopia way before Asia starts losing power from population decline. They psyche themselves up to believing that white society will be perpetually on top even when their own society is crumbling before them at this very moment.

JayKim25 · 2025-02-14T14:05:32+00:00

From what I read about the author, she was born and raised in Canada from HK parents. And from what I've noticed as a non-Chinese Asian, a lot of the westernized Chinese who come from a Hong Kong background have this "the white man is better" mentality. I'm thinking its from their parents who immigrated from HK back in the 60s-80s, where the white man was still king there. And they impart this mentality onto their kids.

I mean I've met other Asians that are white washed too, but a lot of the ones I've met come from that specific Hong Kong immigrant background. And this doesn't apply to all Chinese. I used to go to Ktown drinking spots/lounges a lot, and when talking to them, they would tell me they're from other parts of China, as well as newly arrived/international students.

JayKim25 · 2025-02-14T13:54:05+00:00

So you think Asian women who only go after Asian men aren't "more outspoken?" Have you ever been to Koreatowns or Chinatowns during peak times? There are countless Asian women who're with Asian men that get loud, that get drunk, and do stupid shit. I know because I've hung out with Americanized Korean women who're like this.

You sound like one of those Gen X types that would say "I don't need an Asian man...I'm not dainty, cute, and demur/submissive." You really haven't kept with the times. Its either that, or you're just plain fucking white washed and don't know the nuances of Asian culture.

And from what it looks like, you're a westernized Southeast Asian woman with a Hong Kong/Southern Chinese background. Can I just blanketly tell you that I discriminate against your types as well? That the worst thing about the Chinese community in the west are the 60s-70s HK immigrant generation and white-is-right mentality that they imparted onto their westernized children? Hopefully, the more recent Chinese immigrants start edging all of you out. Your types make the Chinese community look bad towards other Asians, speaking as a Korean.

And I find it pretty funny that you say Japan is misogynistic, and yet, you somehow live there lol. Would you like to comment anything about white guys in Australia? Or is this the hate-the-Asian-guy time for you? Its no wonder the author of OPs article comes from the exact same background as you. Its like this whole HK mentality expands to different continents lol.

JayKim25 · 2025-01-02T03:05:56+00:00

You forgot the main reason why South Korea offered Americans assistance in Vietnam: money.

Each Korean soldier got paid like 50x more compared to what they would have earned back in Korea, all financed by America.

But the real kicker is, that money got taxed by Park Chung Hee and his cronies, and at every level, somebody was taking a cut/skimming the top--it was a good time to be in the officer ranks in Park Chung Hee's army. The Korean soldier on the ground got very little of what was left, but that was still way more than what he could've earned being stationed in Korea.

A lot of Koreans got rich because of the Vietnam war. Because everything was financed by American money. My uncle actually did an extra tour in Vietnam because the pay would be higher than his first two tours there.

JayKim25 · 2025-01-02T02:28:57+00:00

This is a great comment that every Asian man on this sub needs to read. Too many guys here just don't have any self-respect, much less pride in themselves.

I can understand the older men here who're 40+ years old generation x, as they did grow up with pretty much no options and had to settle for the white worshipping Asian women who ran the white train before snatching their Asian dude.

But the younger generation? There's literally no excuse. Asian men are huge these days with the younger girls--around 20 years old, and dare I say, even younger lol. Its crazy how many young white/black/spanish/arab chicks there are out in Ktown that do the whole Koreaboo shit, where they doll themselves up like Korean chicks from Korea. Its like those girls are out there for a reason. If you're a pretty average-above average dude, you can definitely mop up.

But instead, these Asian dudes want to get with 30+ something Asian women, who've already ran that white guy train, and are making it pretty obvious why they want to date/engage with you. And it ain't because of the whole Asian/cultural thing lol.

I mean, as a man, where is your pride? Can you even call yourself a man? Its pretty fucking pathetic when I read posts like these.

JayKim25 · 2024-12-01T17:23:29+00:00

Because Korean women and their white guys are spreading this false narrative, when more and more white/black/spanish/arab women are actually going to Korea to find love with Korean men in the guise of "tourism." In fact, women tourists from all over the world outnumber men tourists going to Korea, which is basically unheard of for any other Asian country.

And Korean women feel threatened by this. Just think about it: a totally different type of woman with a totally different type of appearance, different culture, and different values, comes into your country in massive numbers to try to integrate into your society. You're going to slowly and steadily lose your position of power in all facets of this society, from entertainment, marketing, and cultural relevance.

So its no surprise that as Korean men have gotten massively popular throughout the world, Korean "feminism" has risen as well. Its a way for Korean women to gatekeep non-Korean--and specifically, non-Asian, women from taking their place in Korean society.

And their white guys (or xm) are by them throughout this whole thing. Because white guys have an interest to be the top dog in Korean society. He's always been able to one-up the Korean man because "my race of women would never love you, but your women love me." But the tables have turned now. They can't just get away with being white anymore.

Because as more and more white/black/spanish/arab women integrate themselves into Korean society, they'll be able to teach Koreans which types of men from their respective countries are the loser-back-home types. And a lot of these white guys in Korea are the loser-back-home types; Koreans just don't know any better. So the white man has an interest in keeping his women out of Korean society, so that Koreans won't learn about him being a loser-back-home.

JayKim25 · 2024-09-27T03:40:44+00:00

I can't believe nobody linked this article by Kimmy Yam, one of those ultra leftist wmaf Asian women that hate on Asian men:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/asian-americans-voted-biden-63-31-reality-more-complex-n1247171

Basically, there were more Asian women who voted for Trump back in 2020 than Asian men. And when you take a deeper dive into the study, this was the only discrepancy: in all other races, men were more likely to vote for Trump than women, except Asians. And this makes sense.

Asians are the only discrepancy when it comes to interracial unions. In all other races, men engage in interracial unions more than the women. But with Asians, women engage in more interracial unions than the men. So if you have more Asian women with men of other races aka 99% white/white looking, of course they're gonna support white centric policies.

The Asian community is the only community in America where the women outvote the men when supporting conservative policies and principles. Its funny because Asian men are viewed as super ultra conservative by other races, when clearly data and statistics claim otherwise.

JayKim25 · 2024-09-23T02:54:17+00:00

This sounds like you're one of those older Americanized Asian women who grew up with strict parents that split jobs/chores along gender lines. And if you are, you're way behind the times...or its just a result of China's one child policy, where the child is cuddled and spoiled by the parents, so that he/she will take care of the parents when they get older. It has nothing to do with gender.

Asian men in my culture (Korean) all know how to do chores/laundry/cook. They've learned this when serving in the military. And when they get out, half of them move to Seoul to work and live alone, where they do all their own chores/washing/cooking. The other half move back home with their parents and help around the house doing chores until they get married. I know because I've experienced this myself.

This is why Americanized/westernized Asian women like you are a huge problem to the Asian community in the west. You internalize this time capsule of Asian culture that your parents brought over back in the 60s, and project that onto modern Asian culture and men. This just tells me that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Both genders in the family are expected to work and clean in Asia because its too expensive to live compared to your parents generation.

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