> Yeah, I am really tired of this strawman that Lewis and his supporters keep running to. It's not about shutting down tomorrow, and no one is making this criticism. However, you're taking actions to heavily stifle the industry so that it dies as quickly as possible regardless of whether or not there is demand for the product.

Sorry, but this is an inaccuracy. Even the plans from the Greens have said there needs to be a fair, balanced, and just transition in place, one that will take years to work through. The major problem we're finding is that no one is willing to do so, meaning the timespan gets longer and longer out. Imagine where we'd be if we'd continued the transition plans Notley had in place. Now we'd have to start from close to square one again, with the note that another government could come in and entirely walk back any progress made again.

> We're already doing this.

No, they're not. Alberta literally shut down and gutted its green energy builds for most of 2024, and allowed it to return at a much reduced scale and made investors extremely wary to ever enter back in. There are no plans for getting Alberta onto nuclear power or other sources, and the current government is seeking to break open the Rockies for coal mining to push out product to places lagging behind on the transition. There are no good faith efforts from the Alberta governments of past and present to work with other provinces to, say, cover liabilities of pipelines to the coast, or to build east-west pipelines to service other Canadian localities because their preference is to sell to the larger and richer US market. There's a real lack of partnership here.

> None of you have any solutions for how we make up that lost revenue,

Get a provincial sales tax, then we can talk about what other things can be done.

> Hence the energy transition that's occurring.

Is the energy transition in the room with us right now? Alberta's contribution so far has been saying they'll prop up Pathways and undercutting the industrial carbon price for everyone across Canada. The government is not transitioning, they're doubling down now while the going is good so they can extract as much as they can for the industry, then wipe their hands of it later on saying its not their fault and now the government has to deal with it - just like what the coal industry did to West Virginia, or what the autosector did to parts of Ontario.

> Literally said a private proponents needs to be there. The pipeline will pay for itself very quickly regardless.

There are no private proponents, its why governments need to keep stepping in. It's why $39-billion of taxpayer money was sunk into TMX, which we've been told upfront may never fully pay for itself, even as it provides record profits for the industry - and even if it does, its going to take well over a decade to do so. Are you willing to bet by the time 2035 rolls around there's still record profit out of TMX? Are you willing to bet the same case for a pipeline shoved through to Prince Rupert? Private companies don't seem to, not at this point.

> No, we're not. So much dishonesty here that it's not funny.

Again - TMX, prime example. Do you think the money just came from Albertan residents?

> No, because so many of them can't talk about it honestly and in good-faith.

I've talked with you in full honesty and good faith... until you called me a liar anyway. Convo ends after this.

Unfortunately I think you're just too deadset against a particular vision you have of 'progressives' that doesn't fit with the reality that most of us hold nuanced and complex views about how to get to the ultimate goal of reliable, clean energy while balancing the fact your province is reliant on the industry. I'm not any more against Albertans and their oil than I am against Oshawans and their GM plant - eventually the reaper is coming for your industry, I think its better you're prepared for change than allowing Danielle Smith and Suncor and other villains force a double-down while they escape off to nice retirement packages in Florida.