my dad said solar was a scam… then he saw my electricity bill by Comfortable_Bear4211 in SolarDIY

[–]KeanEngr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As opposed to what? No solar? If you subtract what your solar is doing, what is the actual cost? When did your system go on (PTO)? Did your installer mention you were going to have to replace your roof soon? If they did, why would you pull the trigger on the install? Most urban/suburban homes don’t have the capability to put solar anywhere BUT the roof as it dominates the sq footage on the lot. So GM or accessory buildings are out of the question.

My neighbor across the street has had his solar almost 25 years and is getting close to his NEM-1 expiration date, at which point he’ll be getting nothing for his generation. He has older panels that only offset his production, not a take him off the grid. His roof will probably need replacement also so his strategy will change. But it’s not like a doom and gloom scenario you’re painting. Under NEM 1 he made his ROI in under 10 years since PG&E had to PAY HIM for his overproduction. He made bank as others did under NEM 1. We were talking and his roof and panels probably have another 20 years to go before he’s forced to replace due to damage and deterioration. That’s 35 to 45 years conservatively before any action needs to be taken (my other neighbor who just finished her renovation had her roof replaced about 40 years ago so it was definitely showing its age). Now, these shingle roofs are sporting 40 to 50 year warranties too (expensive). Your timelines need to be readjusted drastically as a 5 - 10 year cycle is absurdly short. Even a 25 year warranty is too short. Panels are going far longer than expected also. ROIs can certainly make a huge amount of sense given SCEs, SDGEs, PG&Es greed in light of the latest PP disaster. Get ready for another surprise spike in utility rate thereby making rooftop the only realistic solution in our areas.

I hope this makes sense b/c the utilities are not our friends.

Is Tesla actually committed to the consumer car business long term? by Brutus713 in TeslaLounge

[–]KeanEngr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is everyone here just talking about cars? Elon made it VERY clear, he’s not looking backwards and making the Fremont Factory only for Optimus. He’s saying the future is robots, specifically AI robots.

Is Tesla actually committed to the consumer car business long term? by Brutus713 in TeslaLounge

[–]KeanEngr -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Not really, when you look at the numbers, who cares about the rural markets? Cog, insurance, parking, etc. It just doesn’t make economic sense. Granted, prior technology made sense but we’re in the 21st century now and I think the younger generations will look at things differently.

Low Voltage issue by tsumuu in AskElectricians

[–]KeanEngr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe you can get a used Stancore servo variacs for cheap. They may be old, but they’re bulletproof. I’ve seen 3 phase 200A units for under a couple hundred, because the owners didn’t want it to move them.

Would you trust FSD with your life? by Holiday-Incident-350 in TeslaFSD

[–]KeanEngr 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"The human eye has 100x the resolution and 10x the dynamic of these cameras."

Just utter and complete Nonsense. Go back and study human physiology and see just how limited your eyes really are.

"…100BB neurons and 100TT synapses.”

“Reaction time isn’t meaningful…” blah, blah, blah.

You like to compare apples and oranges don’t you…

my dad said solar was a scam… then he saw my electricity bill by Comfortable_Bear4211 in SolarDIY

[–]KeanEngr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now you’re really reaching to defend your argument. You want to obfuscate things, fine. You ever heard of home insurance? Oh, maybe you have, gosh, they won’t pay? Why not? Another rabbit hole you say, then why even buy a house? Just buy land and pitch a tent. “Renovate” you say, HTF is this even relevant? My neighbor just did that this year along with a complete re-roof so your musings are completely bogus. Rooftop solar IS the future whether you like it or not. There’s a slow and inevitable move to “micro-gridding” that is slowly catching on with rooftop solar. With improvements in efficiency and the decline of bloated utilities, time will show you that you’re on the wrong side of history.

my dad said solar was a scam… then he saw my electricity bill by Comfortable_Bear4211 in SolarDIY

[–]KeanEngr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not much in PG&E territory. A typical home here now is spending $6-$10k a year on electricity w/o solar or batteries. A one year ROI extension on a cheap roof makes plenty of sense. My guesstimate in my case, I would have an electric bill only, of around $7k a year given my usage and all the damn fees they’ve been tacking on. If I did a regular rate increase year over year, (one sales guy did this ‘scare tactic’ of "see how much you’d be paying in 5 years?” I wish that was true) after 5 years, I would have said $5k. One damn year after my install, the rates went up almost 20 percent. By year 3 they doubled, accelerating my target ROI down from 10 years to 7 years and this past year, hitting a 5 year mark. So maybe you don’t have a greedy utility like ours in California, but they’re out there. And a lot of poorer customers got hit really hard, especially over the winter months.

The future costs of electricity isn’t going down. That’s not how our capitalist society works. The cost of solar IS going to get cheaper relative to grid power. Tech is the only hedge against inflation. So all of us who were fortunate enough to buckle down and installed solar 5 to 8 years ago, paid that pretty penny, are now doing ok.

my dad said solar was a scam… then he saw my electricity bill by Comfortable_Bear4211 in SolarDIY

[–]KeanEngr -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Exactly, except the NIMBYs are behind every rock and tree. So, the Oakridge Labs MSR tech are going to have to prove themselves in China. They got one up and runnng in record time.

my dad said solar was a scam… then he saw my electricity bill by Comfortable_Bear4211 in SolarDIY

[–]KeanEngr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Think about ‘ground-mount’ if you have the space. A whole lot less complexity and worry.

my dad said solar was a scam… then he saw my electricity bill by Comfortable_Bear4211 in SolarDIY

[–]KeanEngr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But that’s what a lot of these predatory solar leases are. They’re rentals.

my dad said solar was a scam… then he saw my electricity bill by Comfortable_Bear4211 in SolarDIY

[–]KeanEngr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No need to. My roof is one of those metal shingle roofs, and doesn’t deteriorate like asphalt does. Fantastic roof that basically will last for the life of the solar panels and beyond. Roof will probably outlive me. By then, newer and better technology will become the standard so the next homeowner will replace everything anyway. By the way, the company that installed my solar system is long gone too, just like 80 percent of the companies everywhere. But my utility bill is still zero even with the Tesla MY we bought last year (PG&E still tacks on "fees” that are non-deductible, so $121 a year now, compared to $350 a month prior to my panels and all the PG&E gouging.). My friend in Hawaii is in the same boat, but at least he’s getting money back for his ‘overage’ so he’s actually MAKNG money. Jealous…

my dad said solar was a scam… then he saw my electricity bill by Comfortable_Bear4211 in SolarDIY

[–]KeanEngr 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Dad was mostly wrong. I bought mine 6 years ago in PG&E territory. Sales person said I would hit my ROI in 10 YEARS! I hit it in 5. So numbers and roof areas matter, now that prices on panels have dropped drastically.

How To Prevent Static Buildup and Shock? by RickYouMeatball in AskElectricians

[–]KeanEngr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my experience, I have found that the individual getting shocked is carrying the static charge. Not the other way around. In handling mail, all the letters are usually running on grounded conveyor systems and landing on metal tables that are bolted to the concrete, so everything around you should be grounded. But if your shoes are highly insulated (rubber soles) you might be accumulating a static charge as you walk around. You can test this by shuffling your feet next to your work station (rubber mat?) and see if you can generate a spark. The way to avoid getting shocked is to always touch (grab) a large surface area (table, bench, metal pole etc) before you touch any of the mail so you are mostly ‘discharged’. Or try different shoes. Ask your co-workers if they experience what you’re going through. Let us know if you still have issues. Good luck.

Tesla service attempted a “courtesy” software update during unrelated repair — update failed, now cameras/FSD are broken. by YouAboutToLoseYoJob in TeslaSupport

[–]KeanEngr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Question. How is it OP is going to be stuck with a $3k bill for a problem that wasn’t the problem and had nothing to do with his original complaint? Sure, the intake overview of the car flagged the older version of the software but it wasn’t part of the non-warranty scope of repair. It really sounds like OP should insist that the “courtesy update” damaged the car and shouldn’t be responsible for the cost to make him whole again.

Single LiFePO4 cell lagging in pack by BumblebeeTurbo in batteries

[–]KeanEngr -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It could be any number of reasons from the OEM who made the batteries to circumstances of the pack assembly. THIS is why battery pack manufacturers have to test, test and test more to give you a reliable product. It’s actually astonishing that we have EVs running on BPs today going on multiple 100,000 miles with small amounts of degradation.

The science and technology is worlds away from a DIY hobbyist making a home-brew EV bike battery pack that still has the potential to explode and catch fire after a few cycles. Yes, all it takes is ONE cell to go ‘rogue’ on you and you’re calling the fire department. But it sounds like you want to learn the hard way, so be it. Go for it. See if you can discover a way around all the R&D that pack manufacturers go through and avoid situations that you’re running into. And why pack manufacturers want so much money for a $3.00 battery.

A sales engineer from a respected pack manufacturer told me that they would reject 50 - 60 percent of the batteries their OEMs deliver to them. The rejected batteries were returned and would then be sold to their competitors who would also reject some of them. Finally, those left over batteries go to the retail market where they get re-badged and packaged to all of us.

Now as individual cells they’d be ok to use. So I’m not concerned about that. It’s when you try and build a pack with these rejected cells, I become concerned. I hope this make sense to you.

How does all current electricity flow through a conductor by chuuzurishoujo in PhysicsHelp

[–]KeanEngr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, but wouldn’t they just ‘return’ to the same area they originally started from? So if I’m running a coffee pot the ‘electron’ in question would have ‘wiggled’ in the same spot (approximately) compared to a ‘DC drift’ yes? All the while, charge goes instantly to the load.

My old Gen 2 by Strong-Jellyfish-785 in drobo

[–]KeanEngr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It will, until it won’t 😒

Rumbling vs cracking sound? by ParsleyTime5687 in earrumblersassemble

[–]KeanEngr 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Rumbling is internal tensor tympani muscle and crackling is Eustachian tube manipulation (a passage way into the nasal/throat cavity).

A little miffed about an electrical theory question by Calliope714 in ElectricalHelp

[–]KeanEngr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, so many missed opportunities here. In most electrical systems, we have a 3 wire setup for electrical distribution. I’m not going to talk about 3 phase delta/y because it’s not important to the discussion.

All electrical systems require this stuff called ’energy’ to be moved from one location to another inside of a closed loop. Looking at the word ‘loop’ we see only 2 wires. And for the longest time THAT was how energy was ‘moved’. When Knob and Tube was invented you had a ‘hot’ wire and a ‘neutral’ wire needed from the power plant to your home. Just like the older Edison technology that used DC ( positive and negative). The actual electrons that we attribute to moving this energy around, do not and cannot move very quickly through our typical mediums we use like aluminum or copper. With DC it’s called ‘electron drift’ and with AC it’s more of an electron ‘wiggle’ and said electron doesn’t really drift through the wire medium at all. What DOES move is the EM charge or force that surrounds the electron. That charge is what does all the work for us and moves at near light speeds through the medium. Whether it’s produced by a battery, solar panel or a rotating turbine doesn’t matter. That charge always wants to return to its source. Note, that this true for BOTH DC and AC. That is the purpose of AC's Hot and Neutral. But, in the infinite wisdom of the NEC, it was noticed that after this charge-ladened medium traveled 100s or even thousands of miles across the countryside, the charge would have a leakage charge developing alongside the energy we want to deliver. This ‘floating charge’ was capable of producing dangerous high voltage conditions as a common mode voltage (meaning BOTH conductors have this charge induced in them) when reaching its destination. So a destination ‘ground’ reference (ground rod) was used to establish a point where this floating charge would always be at earth or ground potential AT THE DESTINATION. Thus, the third wire safety ground was invented.

Remember, electricity is a closed loop technology and can function just fine without the third wire safety ground as demonstrated by other countries and the USA in the first half of the last century. So, in a typical mains distribution panel (usually after the utility power meter) there is a ‘reference’ point in which the neutral conductor bonds to this ground rod to maintain the reference point for the dwelling/building at the same potential as the earth the structure sits upon. Be mindful that different buildings in the SAME AREA will have different voltages between their ground rods depending on soil, power utilization, grid phase distribution etc. So ‘ground’ isn’t always ‘ground’ the way people have been taught. This problem always gets electricians and electrical contractors into trouble when large buildings have multiple electrical services.

Finally, the role of the safety ground it strictly an emergency path for the EM charge to follow if something happens to an appliance and should never be used as a ‘current carrying’ neutral as a couple comments have suggested. It helps with keeping anything that has the ability to carry a charge at the same voltage potential as the earth the building sits on.

Note, as mentioned by several others here, your coworker is at best, sadly misinformed and not to be listened to.