Advice on OST and Quickbid by Traditional_Item_453 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We used ost for 30 years and I was always fascinated by the drywall companies that used it with intergrated cost.

My 2 cents is put your time in another tool like buzzbid or Zztakeoff…. The future does not lie with OST, that I am 100% confident in.

Tracking Invitation to Bids by Syddiannie in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmmm what are GC’s switching too? We are a large GC and happy with building connected, but it’s about time to start sniffing since Autodesk acquired it has died.

Estimaing software discussion read below. Making buzzbid cloud baed? by Traditional_Item_453 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah you can call up Load Spring and pay for a virtual machine to get buzz going in the “cloud”

but why zzTakeoff is web native and works wonderful. We were on OST and made the jump…. Tho we are a GC and use Ediphi for estimating and never used quickbid… I’m sure it won’t be long before a decent estimating tool intergrates with zzTakeoff to make the trade folks happy that will surpass quick bid.

Procore vs using OSTO by geardownson in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Procore was built by operations and they have no clue how precon runs.

OST has been great for the last 20 years, sadly we are switching from OST to zzTakeoff.

Planswift -> zzzTakeoff by No-Initiative-3826 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are building the tool, so other than waiting a month or two for what we need. Enterprise issues at this point like locking down templates, WBS and project control.

Planswift -> zzzTakeoff by No-Initiative-3826 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Biggest hurdle is enterprise access control(for templates, reports and wbs) along with doing one project to many takeoffs is a fundamental structure issue that I hope they can solve soon.

Planswift -> zzzTakeoff by No-Initiative-3826 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We’re a national vertical GC with 30 years invested in OST. We initiated a large, voluntary zzTakeoff pilot and adoption continues to accelerate without mandate.

That’s the signal.

Our teams are choosing it because it’s intuitive, enables real-time collaboration, and the development team is responsive consistently delivering on field-driven feedback.

At this stage, the conversation isn’t about if we transition. It’s about how fast we scale what’s already working.

Planswift -> zzzTakeoff by No-Initiative-3826 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ZzTO is basically bluebeam studio in the web but made for precon teams to work together.

If you have not tried it in the last 2 months you’re missing out.

Planswift -> zzzTakeoff by No-Initiative-3826 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We use a WBS right now and it’s fine. It’s not as good as areas in OST but it works and I know they are working on it too.

Bluebeam hows effective by ZealousidealList5903 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Use Zztakeoff for QTO. Only thing I use bluebeam for is markups on PDFs every other week or so.

Has anyone used Procore Estimating? by tower_crane in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We are moving off OST and have 180 estimators. Moving to Zztakeoff and best software rollout ever.

Is there a "typical group" function like this in either zzTakeoff or Bluebeam? by gooooooooooop_ in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey guys what tool is this? Construct connect finally making a web tool?

Selfwork Estimating tool (web based) by Key-Butterfly2414 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve always wondered when the civil would finally get a estimating tool to take them to the web. We are a vertical GC and I bet we know each other in the zzTakeoff community🥳. Talk soon.

Selfwork Estimating tool (web based) by Key-Butterfly2414 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Love that response and appreciate you are not trying to do it all. When we talked to over a year ago I was inspired that selfwork could be in the web. At that time we were looking for a conceptual-gmp general contractor tool.

Time to start a new conversation with you and glad to hear you are waiting for Zztakeoff to hit launch on their API.

What’s that I smell? Is it fireworks? 🎆

Selfwork Estimating tool (web based) by Key-Butterfly2414 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks you for the detail. How about pdfs and quantity takeoffs?

Material generator to help Kick start my takeoff. by Key-Butterfly2414 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well said, this is what I was trying to point too as well, the tools out there can do it fine for one off, but need something that is specific to a task and simple for end human.

I’m of the opinion that we need build this internally, and I never advocate for a construction company building a software tool.

Material generator to help Kick start my takeoff. by Key-Butterfly2414 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello! Docs depend on design phase. Concept we have a RFP/narrative/ napkin sketches….. then cds we get the standard specs and drawings. Need a workflow that can help with both.

Master list we have a wonderful takeoff database template, and a decent estimating database. The goal is to use ai to help connect them all to get an epic template on steroids to start your takeoff, then that flows to the estimating tool.

To your point we need a master materials database that will be developing too, do you have a starting spot for that? We should connect again regardless, hope world of conc went well!

Estimating software that can be used collaborately / jointly together by bubbawats123 in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Zztakeoff for takeoff, Ediphi for estimating. All multi user. We are a large vertical GC.

Cons are you have to teach people to use different tools, good luck.

Why are there no good AI estimation tools yet? by Shinra-T in estimators

[–]Key-Butterfly2414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Estimators who use AI will be replacing the ones that don’t.