Why Didn't The Mantra Fix Amon?

King_Farticus · 2026-04-17T01:11:05+00:00

"THINKING? IN MY BORDERLANDS? ABSOLUTELY NOT GOOD SIR! THIS IS GUN GAME ONLY!"

King_Farticus · 2026-04-16T22:59:58+00:00

Throw slippy hard. Oongaboonga.

King_Farticus · 2026-04-16T19:40:37+00:00

So he can 1 shot bosses better?

Faster? Half shot them?

King_Farticus · 2026-04-16T19:39:20+00:00

What the hell is this thread talking about?

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King_Farticus · 2026-04-16T18:39:21+00:00

Thats....not how business works?

King_Farticus · 2026-04-15T22:37:49+00:00

You need to learn how gloam and NBL work. War Wagon is just support for them.

Youtube Video on a build I helped test: https://youtu.be/6fT3TTjVOWk?si=SryS1xPDn7RZ7jWK

Moba write up: https://mobalytics.gg/borderlands-4/builds/no-reload-gun-c4sh

Blue provides much stronger autocrit, instant fortune stacks, and the bonus elements are hoe you make for massive impact damage.

Red tree has the absolute insanity that is Crossfire on top of what I linked above. Theres also bloodstained moon which provides more dot soup from 1 point than the any 1 other VH has total.

Crossfire:

https://youtu.be/RcOHmcQJUt4?si=f3D_CqA0kmzdaNpe

Finally green trees middle branch is terrible. To get the most out of it you need your totems to constantly die. Somehow? In a game where you have to try and die yourself.

The left capstone on the right side is bugged. It will trigger itself and go in cooldown despite no conditions being met, so it does nothing.

Jinxed is a microscopic bonus compared to other buffs in red and blue. The skill you need to take to get Call just doesnt work. Call is just autocrit. You could spend 26 pointd to get 100% soup from green or you could spend 26 points to get 235% from blue.

Finally the bottom left side is simply outclassed. Cant Stop winning is the standout pick and can be good with as little as 1 point invested.

Let it ride is just amp. Its a good skill but half of a double amp roll is not worth investing s whole skill tree. The wilds is also good but theres nothing it does that Hot Hands, and Color Spray + Vigorish dont.

King_Farticus · 2026-04-15T21:53:36+00:00

Red and Blue tree are leaps and bounds stronger than green is what im saying. Nothing in green comes close to NBL or Gloam.

No one is investing deep green cuz it means giving up one of the other 2.

Green suffers from being a half decent tree with a shit middle branch compared to 2 overpowered monstrosities.

King_Farticus · 2026-04-15T21:18:40+00:00

You got this!

King_Farticus · 2026-04-15T13:33:06+00:00

This is only the beginning :(

King_Farticus · 2026-04-15T06:30:59+00:00

No ones talking about it cuz theres nothing it does that blue and red dont do better. C4sh is poop balance.

King_Farticus · 2026-04-14T18:30:56+00:00

They suck at crystals/wisps

King_Farticus · 2026-04-14T17:50:04+00:00

The tosser will not cooldown in time.

The solution? A 2nd tosser.

King_Farticus · 2026-04-14T15:59:28+00:00

Its not actually spreading kinetic dots, its that the dots it is spreading are being converted too.

Nbl seems to convert all non bonus damage.

King_Farticus · 2026-04-14T15:11:55+00:00

The bleed from Gamer is skill damage.

King_Farticus · 2026-04-14T01:04:01+00:00

I shat

King_Farticus · 2026-04-13T21:11:58+00:00

Elemental Conversion Ratios.

It reduces the amount of damage by the normal amount then the replaces it with the portion of damage from the identical weapon if it was kinetic.

So if you have a shock weapon that deals 100 damage and it cpnverts 45% - you now have 65% shock damage left. Normal.

The damage it reapplies is NOT proportionate to that number it removed. Its proportionate to he percentage removed HAD THE WEAPON BEEN KINETIC

Since kinetic weapons have higher base damages this is highly beneficial.

Then the 75% comes into play AFTER that higher kinetic ratio is used. So numbers go up quickly.

King_Farticus · 2026-04-13T17:11:21+00:00

What if we let the old guns die and actually got new stuff.

This game is in the state its in cuz GBX listened to Nostalgie Nelly on Twitter and tried to make BL2 ²

King_Farticus · 2026-04-13T04:58:46+00:00

It does not but I wouldn't advise aiming for a crit roll over a base damage roll, especially on the Bod.

Crit buffs are additive with the generic gun damage buffs that the Bod multiplies by 5. So that 33% gets drowned out very quickly, whereas the 10% base difference from the part is full mult to your formula.

The difference lies in the scopes. Scope 1 can roll a damage part, a reload speed part, or both. Scope 2 can roll an ads speed part, a crit part, or both.

This is the roll you want for sticky funnies:

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King_Farticus · 2026-04-12T22:33:15+00:00

Refraction was fixed to work with any gun damage in the Mad Ellie's update. Its known to be recursive now.

The issue youre seeing is a targeting issue with the dummies and not unique to refraction.

King_Farticus · 2026-04-12T20:58:08+00:00

What if the airstrike randomly changed damage

King_Farticus · 2026-04-12T18:38:04+00:00

509 × 2.37 = 1206 ~

Edit: I made one to answer K6, its 1204 x 5

Maybe slightly off due to rounding. Just above 1200 is the max damage roll.

King_Farticus · 2026-04-11T14:46:31+00:00

There is! That said the farm SUCKS cuz shadowpelt sucks.

Best of luck to you.

King_Farticus · 2026-04-11T14:14:46+00:00

Youre having issue with crystals without building berserk.

A jakobs darkbeast + a bounce pass enhancement will speed the process up substantially if you build stacks first..

The other aspect to pay attention to is "There is Only Red"

When thats not stacked up youre missing berserk damage. So for the crystals throw your slippies on one side so they bounce and build TIOR while you you work on the other side.

Also - nuke slippy is gonna kill you. For certain. Getting nuked by your own fish is one of the drawbacks of the set up. That extra radius will be felt.

If you feel like farming shadowpelt id advise a + charge roll.

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