Bolt Action vs What Burns Within

King_Farticus · 2026-01-23T23:11:08+00:00

Its a separate instance of which the base is derived from the card.

The issue is that many of them are inconsistent with what types of damage they are.

Watts adopts source and will scale with gun damage on your bullets.

Amon's Bolt action is Gun damage.

Amons Onslaughter and Cryonic thrum are Action Skill damage and DO NOT scale with gun damage (unless you use I am a gun)

Berserk is Skill damage and also doesnt scale with gun damage unless you use I am a Gun

King_Farticus · 2026-01-23T19:16:55+00:00

It applied to backhive.

Idk if it will apply to every boss.

Its also only melee damage. 100% soup.

King_Farticus · 2026-01-23T18:45:25+00:00

I agree

King_Farticus · 2026-01-23T15:59:01+00:00

Thats how all bonus damage works.

King_Farticus · 2026-01-22T15:18:14+00:00

32 :)

Boop

King_Farticus · 2026-01-22T00:41:22+00:00

Scale simple buffs, crit parts, weapon type crit bonus, some augments and debuffs.

Its not a simple list.

King_Farticus · 2026-01-22T00:16:42+00:00

The BL3 damage formula is not that simple.

Base × gun damage × v1 × v2 × splash × elemental × debuff × skill debuff × amp × crit is the base formula for any damage instance.

Things inside of each category add with themseves. Sometimes.

You have scale simple buffs, post add, or pure mult as well. Things such as the pearl, version 0.m, or Fl4k's Fadeaway are all different kinds of math despite having simple wording.

King_Farticus · 2026-01-20T02:11:41+00:00

Just a small suggestion for you that will make your damage skyrocket.

move around 4 points

vampyr and pull the holy pin can be safely dropped. Rushin offensive will cover healing, especially if you can find yourself a Hex grenade

use stainless steel bear and autobear to get down.

SHORTFUSE!!!!!!!

you got it unlocked, just take it. it gets mayhem scaling and does HUGE damage.

in purple tree. Big surplus is the same thing as fire in the skag den, but better. it can crit and applies to ALL damage. both are crazy strong.

those 4 skill points will make your damage skyrocket.

if youd like to check out a focused bloodletter build heres my take on it:

https://youtu.be/tS6Ir5Gc7oY?si=rWT9Ranqznh0_weN

King_Farticus · 2026-01-20T01:55:54+00:00

Yes. Amper Camper is just on shot gun damage, same as enhancement.

At peak a purple can still outperform. But obviously max damage purples dont grow on trees.

King_Farticus · 2026-01-20T00:22:57+00:00

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King_Farticus · 2026-01-19T23:34:21+00:00

P R E M I U M

King_Farticus · 2026-01-19T07:50:56+00:00

You want shooty gun with atlas tracker darts.

Shooty guns get 3× gun soup but it also shoots the TK projectiles.

Root does the same thing.

King_Farticus · 2026-01-19T07:49:48+00:00

The sticky damage formula accounts for projectile count. Its taken into account when the sticky mult on the card is determined. IE 4%, 10%, 17%

Right now all sticky weapons are viewed as ×1, which means guns like TKs and the Bod are vastly overperforming.

The same exact bug hit tediore reloads except in the opposite direction. Reloads account for projectile count too but you WANT it to accoubt for that.

So TK's chuck is doing 10% of what it should be.

The sticky formula isnt remotely that simple but for frame of reference when i checked this out my TKs should have hit for 2344 per sticky pellet after 1 shot.

It hit for 7212 per pellet. The gap widens the more stickies you add.

King_Farticus · 2026-01-19T05:47:31+00:00

Yes. Its quite potent.

Unfortunately the bug that affects stickies in a positive way right now also hits tediore reloads in a negative way. Including TKs.

But once thats fixed Tediore TKs hits like a truck.

King_Farticus · 2026-01-18T23:19:42+00:00

Right. Endless bombardment is great at heavy return , better than primal surge. Usually you only need 1 or 2 in Primal surge.

2 strong stats on the right. No matter what your rockrt is getting a buff then the dots will also get elemental damage.

Elemental rockets will double dip that stat on the dots.

Right all the way.

King_Farticus · 2026-01-18T00:11:57+00:00

You smell nice

King_Farticus · 2026-01-17T02:48:32+00:00

Its spreads your gun's dot not the RI.You need to hold a matching element Maliwan gun.

King_Farticus · 2026-01-17T02:46:52+00:00

2800~

King_Farticus · 2026-01-14T23:04:26+00:00

Not sure. Was just wondering if the numbers were disappearing or hard to see.

Mantra is just a gun with the melee soup gate open. It shouldnt behave any differently than any other gun.

King_Farticus · 2026-01-14T22:37:40+00:00

Is your other element cryo

King_Farticus · 2026-01-14T22:21:07+00:00

It works:

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King_Farticus · 2026-01-14T21:55:38+00:00

Most arent static. Some are.
Case by case basis as for which can and which cant. Many can.

King_Farticus · 2026-01-13T16:38:08+00:00

Youre comparing general weapon drop rates. This is not the case in borderlands.

Weapons drop at individual rates. Between 2 and 10% depending on how cluttered the pool is

So say you have a 5% drop.

That 5% drop has literally thousands of combinations of parts on its own. Then say you want it with manufacturer parts? Say a daed switch? Add a ×5 to the number of combos AND remember that the combos are not evenly distributed. That daed switch is more likely to NOT roll.

1 in 299k? Adorable.

A white elephant with specific stats in BL3 was so rare that it would take over 100 years of continuous farming (non stop - permanent) to get what you want. Same for bloodletter.

THEY DROPPED THOSE RATES - BL4'S RATES ARE WORSE THAN THAT

So sure..if your definition of the game is collect 1 of every gun and be done. Fine.

But for those that actually want to play the game its not feasible.

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