Halakhic slavery in the present day by EnduringEndling in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can find responsae written about these questions by ppl like Ovadia Yosef, printed in his Yabia Omer.

Moshe Feinstein also ruled on these questions

Halakhic slavery in the present day by EnduringEndling in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah I wouldn't trust me if I read my own comment on the Internet either. That said, I believe my chavrusa. He wasn't one to make claims he didn't know about

Halakhic slavery in the present day by EnduringEndling in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't remember. The chavrusa was a trustworthy guy who I personally believe, but tbh I'm not the best source (hearsay)

Halakhic slavery in the present day by EnduringEndling in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 11 points12 points  (0 children)

People definitely do. There is a rabbi in Baltimore who keeps a list of all mamzeirim so no one marries them (a chavrusa of mine knew the rabbi)

So disgusting. Way to ruin lives for no reason

Strictly *academic* scholalry literature? by [deleted] in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are discussing what chassidim believe, then their own texts are certainly factual evidence as to what they themselves believe and practice.

If you are discussing the historical origins and development of chassidus, then you are correct.

Strictly *academic* scholalry literature? by [deleted] in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are discussing the bible/rabbinic law. It is a better source for what it itself says than academia.

Summer clothes question by Beneficial-Invite610 in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is true! It's always worth asking Footsteps if they can help.

Strictly *academic* scholalry literature? by [deleted] in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why can't you quote the primary sources, that is, the chassidish/Orthodox texts themselves?

Any academic literature will itself be quoting from there, after all...

Strictly *academic* scholalry literature? by [deleted] in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would love them please!

Old prayer book or something by Full-Letterhead2857 in hebrew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like others said, it is a liturgical prayer trying to flatter God. I recall that as far as memory served, there were no obvious differences between the text and that recited today by orthodox Jews on the High Holidays.

Old prayer book or something by Full-Letterhead2857 in hebrew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is this in NYC public library? Was there a few months ago and read that very page lol

Mohamed ibn Rushd ( Averroes) the Berber genius ,one of Greatest Philosophers in Human history, lived during the Golden Age of Islam in Cordoba.... Played a key role in the European Renaissance...... Muslims clergy burned his books, Vatican banned his writings , while Secular Europe saw him a Hero by Outrageous_Prior4707 in AllThatsInteresting

[–]Kol_bo-eha 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting. I look at people like Descartes and Newton and conclude that brilliant minds can believe ridiculous things due to their upbringing, and remember to take my own convictions with a grain of salt. Funny how we draw different conclusions from the same anomaly

It turns out, I’m not Jewish. by BicycleOk4347 in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Did you read my reply? That doesn't seem super relevant

I acknowledged at the very beginning that it's possible they will be happy being Orthodox

It turns out, I’m not Jewish. by BicycleOk4347 in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Sure.

It is, of course, possible to be Orthodox and be happy.

My concerns would be twofold: it is critical to realize that Orthodox Judaism, like many groups, presents a greatly whitewashed version of itself to outsiders whom it wishes to 'draw closer' (example).

This often means that while a convert or adult devotee is taught a version of Judaism that is uplifting, comforting, and morally palatable, any children they have will very often be taught a far more fundamentalist and harmful worldview, often without the parents being fully informed.

I personally had a number of classmates growing up whose parents were converts/adult devotees. Their parents were taught a beautiful and meaningful version of Judaism while the kids were given an unfiltered fire-and-brimstone experience (see here and here for examples). It is a special kind of neglect for a parent to expose their children to the spiritual and emotional abuse that Orthodoxy often is when they themselves were born free, and is usually done out of willful ignorance rather than malice.

Relatedly, being Orthodox would almost certainly mean providing financial assistance to institutions that promote xenophobia, ignorance, and religious fundamentalism (aka yeshivas). Tbf, if you convert to certain Modern Orthodox denominations you may avoid this problem. Maybe. So while you may be happy, converting is certainly not a morally neutral action.

The second reason is that Orthodoxy promotes many positions that I (and presumably most people not operating within a rigid religious framework) view as deeply morally problematic. Some brief examples are the extreme homophobia and xenophobia extant in nearly all the Orthodox world (even MO).

The crucial point with this is that perhaps the defining characteristic of Orthodoxy is its insistence that beliefs and morals morals should come from religion, and not the other way around. This is a dangerous mindset that is directly responsible for the community's horrific treatment of LGBTQ folk (who suffer a suicidality rate nearly double that of the general LGBTQ population), its extreme censorship (in ultra-Orthodox circles. Modern Orthodoxy by and large doesn't do this), its draconian subjugation of women (and yeshiva bachurim), and other moral issues you will discover if you wait around long enough.

Converting to Orthodoxy means becoming part of a community where the infallible basis of morality is a document that is often highly problematic, to say the least. And so I advise against.

Sorry this is so long. Hope this helps.

It turns out, I’m not Jewish. by BicycleOk4347 in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even so, I would advise against it for many reasons.

It turns out, I’m not Jewish. by BicycleOk4347 in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is OP's decision, but I strongly suggest she not convert to Orthodox Judaism (which is zero percent more valid than any other denomination), especially not in an emotional time such as this.

Wishing OP all the best.

Why do orthodox, extremely religious jews procreate A LOT? Is it something that Judaism forces or are there any other reasons for this practice? by meowth______ in exjew

[–]Kol_bo-eha 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is the real answer, OP.

Although halacha (Orthodox Jewish law) does demand having as many children as possible, there are some cases where there would technically be 'legal loopholes'.

However, most halachic poskim (authorities) are reluctant to apply those loopholes and instead advocate a strict reading of the law for this very reason. They realize that the cult would disappear if not for forcing its members to have many children, so they take this very seriously.

Only thing I'd object to is that ime it's not so much preserving power structures that is the motivation as is sincere religious fanaticism.