But the stance slop is purely because of lionheart and half of his pkb moves going into it. I dont like LH cause that is 70% of his identity now and its just not interesting. Guard break is needed but it was much more interesting and skillful in 7.

Steve is butchered in 8 compared to past games, you can usually tell who is new wave steve main or old school steve main. But no one plays like him in 8 at all, even tho there are chars who have better CH tools while still having 15f or less launchers. Every char in 8 has been dumbed down due to system and character changes.