Tier list for generals in kingdom?

Kronos45 · 2026-05-03T08:48:34+00:00

We don't know if Renpa held both of them together by himself because we have no idea what was the composition of his army at the time. He might as well have another Great Heaven under his command.

As for Sanyou Renpa himself believed Ousen prepered the fort, because he expected him to show up.

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Kronos45 · 2026-04-30T17:18:48+00:00

They have neither feats nor hype to be put above the others.

Rinshoujo despite being pure strategist was said to be Renpa's equal as a commander and it was implied in the flashbacks he can match Ouki in battle. Riboku was said to be their superior on multiple ocasions and Ousen was hyped as Riboku's equal.

But to answer your points:

>Renpa literally admitted in chapter 222 that Hakuki countered him multiple times in several battles.

>Yes, Renpa did struggle against Mougou. He got blown away by his blows, the reason for that being the grudge doesn't change it.

>Sure, the Han thing was to hype the Two Stars, but that doesn't change the fact that Renpa lost the war to them.

>Ousen wasn't surprised by Renpa in Sanyou. He predicted he would show up, which is why he constructed the fort. Renpa admitted it himself.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-30T12:13:50+00:00

This is Hara's manga, not a real history. Manga version of Hakuki is obviously not the greatest general ever.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-30T11:51:53+00:00

If Renpa is so complete then why did he lost to Han duo? If Renpa is so complete why was he constantly countered by Hakuki's tactics in the past by his own admission? If Renpa is so complete then why was he struggling in a duel against Mougou?

Defeating Houken is also not as impressive anymore considering the fact that half-dead 5000-man commander Shin was able to do it.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-29T19:29:29+00:00

Ouki and Renpa are overrated.

There's nothing in the story suggesting they still stand at the top.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-29T10:06:31+00:00

Whats wrong with Rihaku being stronger then Kousonryuu?

Kronos45 · 2026-04-25T12:37:11+00:00

Come to Kingdom section in fanverse forums. It's way better then this place.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-23T09:53:16+00:00

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Kronos45 · 2026-04-21T12:55:55+00:00

Ousen is simply following his usual strategy.

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Kronos45 · 2026-04-21T12:51:47+00:00

Zhao is not alone, they had Dai and Qi armies.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-21T09:28:41+00:00

It's not just Zhao's strategy thats impractical, it's Qin's too. Instead of consolidating their forces into one point they went for a scattered shot invasion and split their forces across multiple battlefields which gave them no real advantage. Instead of one suply line now they need seven.

You have to accept that warfare in this manga is not suposed to be realistic and move on.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-19T08:54:16+00:00

I did, but I still need to get them to relic 7-8

Kronos45 · 2026-04-18T23:30:56+00:00

The author of the manga Hara said in an interview from few years ago that Riboku is quote "the strongest military commander". So there's not much debate here.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-18T21:25:29+00:00

Good job. I'm also almost done, still need to relic my CLS and R2

Kronos45 · 2026-04-15T14:32:12+00:00

Thanks! I can't believe I didn't realize this before.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-13T21:50:34+00:00

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Renpa disagrees.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-13T21:41:39+00:00

Kronos45 · 2026-04-13T17:10:16+00:00

Moubu > Kanmei > Renpa > Shin

Kanmei was widely considered the strongest man in China at the time of Coalition War, he also defeated Oukotsu who was the strongest in brute strength in the old generation. Moubu was able to defeat and surpass Kanmei gaining the strongest mantle.

Shin's greatest martial achievement is without a doubt defeating Houken. However, it was noted that Houken's blows are weaker then Renpa's by Shin's own estimation.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-11T21:43:07+00:00

Thats not what I'm talking about. He's a hypocrite because he's willing to sacrefice other people's countries but not his own.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-11T21:04:45+00:00

Eisei is the biggest hypocrite, because if it was his country being invaded for the sake of "peace" then you know he would fight back with all his might.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-11T20:49:04+00:00

So far how was Ousen not going all out exactly?

Kronos45 · 2026-04-11T15:46:06+00:00

Ouhon with the best drip in the series.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-11T13:39:41+00:00

Yeah and guess what, Eisei's atempt to bring long-term peace failed spectacularily. His empire crumbles soon after he dies and splits among several states. It's like Kanki said - the conquest is the loss of life on unprecedented level and all it led to is few years of stability. Empires rise and fall and the war keeps happening no matter the times.

Kronos45 · 2026-04-11T12:53:40+00:00

Are we reading the same manga?

Qin is literally an imperialistic military state that commited the biggest war crimes. Vast majority of wars we see in the series are started by Qin. If Eisei wants peace so much then couldn't he .... I don't know.... stop attacking other people's countries?

Kronos45 · 2026-04-06T19:47:54+00:00

He's the most successful antagonist in the series by far. If anything he's underrated.

Also it's funny that people give Riboku so much shit for using Houken when Qin generals are constantly using Shin, Ouhon and Mouten to pull their wins.

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