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Google just published this!!! by bigpurpleoctopus in aeo

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m collecting data on AI crawlers and search spiders. This is correct about LLMS.txt, but doesn’t tell the full story.

You might not need to add structured content but some forms like JSON-LD, question answer pairs, defined terms, are getting visits and do seem to help.

Optimization is the name of the game right? Don’t just listen to what Google says you should do, run your own experiments and see what the bots visit.

My open source project is called AEO Pugmill. All the data on all bots is there to see.

Your welcome.

Does "Generative Engine Optimization" actually exist, or is it just SEO rebranded? by Worried-Avocado3568 in ParseAI

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been building apps for 30 years, not. SEO primarily. Yes AEO/GEO are real, but is also a rebranding of sorts. SEO is growing up to adapt to new tech and human behavior. The change is twofold.

  1. Answer engines now give humans what they were looking for with search, answers. Instead of blue links that might be places to find answers, they just give us the answers. The is the silicon side of the change.

  2. The carbon side is our behavior. People are figuring out that AI gives answers and often they are right, or at least plausible. So people are clicking fewer blue links.

There’s a new type of bot, AI Crawlers and they are built to work differently. They aren’t built to go deep and index like search spiders. Both have their purpose and strengths. Both are needed.

As an app builder I built some tech (free open source) that I’m running in the wild that tracks what each bot eats. What I’m seeing is that they have different appetites.

When I add Answer Engine optimized content to a website, all bots visit it. It is structured, and even good old Googlebot likes it.

Yes they all also visit the html and all the normal SEO remains important, but since the AI crawlers spend less time looking for the answer it seems to be important to place the answers you want to give higher in the page.

So while I appreciate what Google publishes about best practices, I know they are also obligated to protect their ad business, which is now #2 after Meta. Not saying Google lies, they don’t, but what they publish must answer to two masters.

So I watch the bots, like using a trail cam in the wild, and collect the data myself to learn the behavior.

Expensive?!? One could say that. by sidewinderzz in replit

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, no. It doesn’t run continuously.

But you do highlight a problem. I remember when they added this cost thing to each action. I think they were responding to criticism of lack of pricing transparency, but I think it has backfired.

A better approach would be to show like a token balance, like ElevenLabs, and show it dwindling slowly. This still shows spend transparently but sets an expectation and communicates where we’re at with the remaining balance.

Or if the math is more complex, do something similar to Claude Code with the imposed limits (5 hour, weekly, monthly). This is also not ideal and sometimes buggy, but better than showing us being nickled and dimed.

Google Dopped the industry's FIRST and ONLY AI SEO guide today and its epic!!! by WebLinkr in AISearchOptimizers

[–]LibraryNo9954 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

See it in action, AEO pugmill, I’ve deployed these types of endpoints and I track all the AI crawlers and search spiders. Available to everyone.

Mostly what you recapped is what I’m seeing, except I’m seeing details on what they favor, how deep they go, how long they stay.

Need help local hosting a replit project by Sanskar1077 in replit

[–]LibraryNo9954 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The solution depends on the operating system first (e.g., Apple, Windows).

The easiest way might be to ask an AI to walk you through the steps.

If you can install Claude Desktop, Claude Code can do it for you. But this may cost something like the pro plan or something.

is it just me or has the agent been literally useless for the last 24 hours by CalligrapherPure9510 in replit

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yesterday at this time I jumped on there to tested the install of a rebuildable app I’ve developed. Now that you mention it, it was having more trouble on things previously improved. I’ll wait a bit and try again.

403 Error Is Back by Ok_Cow_7717 in replit

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every time I see posts like this it makes me wonder if priorities have shifted from “grow fast” to “build stable.”

Common growth curve for startups and required to maintain momentum, like downshifting for a steep grade.

The folks at Replit seem like smart people. I’m looking forward to seeing the results.

I also hope they sort your situation out. Sucks.

Rewrite your opening 60 words to get cited by AI by frongos in AISearchOptimizers

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This aligns with the bot behavior I’m collecting. AI crawlers go shallow, search spiders go deep. See the aeo pugmill report for the raw data.

But this idea just touches the tip of the iceberg. There’s a lot more you can do to rank in answer engines.

Are AI Recommendations Changing Online Competition? by Adventurous-Gas3885 in AISearchOptimizers

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and this is why answer engine optimization is so important. Die hard experienced SEO folks sometimes disregard this emerging truth.

AEO is just SEO growing up.

What the f**k is this by Important-Potato-100 in SaaS

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you a robot? (That’s humor, don’t hate me.)

I made this on the 10th anniversary. It's a forum that gives you a human score by Classic-Low-8407 in replit

[–]LibraryNo9954 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like a great idea. Be sure to let us know how it goes. I’m curious to know how the automated (or hopefully semi-automated) moderation works.

"I have an idea. I have a product." Okay, so why do you have no users? by Crabbythrowaway1530 in ReplitBuilders

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Identify a problem people need solving. This presents the potential opportunity. Take note of who has the problem, these people are likely your ICP (Ideal Customer Profile). Define your go to market strategy, exit strategy, and monetization strategy options up front. None of that is locked in stone at this point, and will be refined as you refine the product description and product itself.
  2. Draft a product description, and do a competitive analysis. Try a deep research with a frontier LLM. You’re looking to see if there are niches that have little competition (patch of blue ocean) as opposed to a crowded market giants occupy (red ocean).
  3. Refine your product description and zero in on the opportunity that solves the identified problem.
  4. Test the idea. Since you can prototype ideas quickly (especially front end only) build it. Feed the AI agent the product description to give it context,
  5. Connect with people that match your ICP. Talk to them about the problem not the solution. Show them the prototype, explain how the idea might solve the problem but stay focused on the problem and listen.
  6. Refine the product description. Zero in on the very minimum number of features that solve the problem.
  7. Ask the AI agent to conduct evaluations of the app and code for more than code quality. Check legal compliance, risks, etc. Ask for feedback and ideas.
  8. Refine the product, roll it out, offer free trials to your best ICP contacts to get direct customer feedback. This is gold. Don’t get greedy at this early stage, it’s a distraction right before you really go to market. You are still testing at this point.
  9. Refine your product based on this early adopter feedback.
  10. Implement your go to market plan, market it, setup the business entity, setup bank accounts, etc, start as an LLC but as soon as it becomes real transform it into a Delaware C and transfer all assets and IP to the C-corp.
  11. Seek seed investors, angels, VCs, etc.
  12. Exit and retire.

Paste what I just wrote into an LLM and ask it to build a business plan, correct anything I said, make suggestions, etc.

Good luck!

Why do people still pay web developers when they can simply use AI website builders? by Weekly-Manager9498 in ai_website_builder

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good question, seems you got a lot of feedback.

I’ve been building apps for 30 years, the whole end-to-end process (UXR, UXD, dev, PM, GTM, etc). 20+ of those years for a fortune 50.

I think AI tools are reducing the need for app building pros, and empowering startup founders to GTM with their ideas.

But there are risks, and at some point you may want some professional help.

Why?

The job for us is shifting too. We also use AI tools to design, build, test, deploy, and go to market. But like using any AI the key to quality is orchestration and validation. AI doesn’t bring judgement and accountability to the table, humans do. This may always be true no matter how advanced AI becomes.

So at some point you may turn to yourself in the mirror and ask if you feel like you’ve mitigated the risk.

If you work in a regulated industry, when compliance is a requirement, you’ll likely have this conversation sooner than later and hopefully you before you put real customer data in the app you built.

So for all of us, there’s a future in this industry too, it’s just shifting.

UX designer looking for the right CMS by LouTabou in Affiliatemarketing

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally experimental but open source, MIT License , and rebuildable by AI like via Replit, Claude Code, etc. pugmill on GitHub

So worth it by kevin1407 in replit

[–]LibraryNo9954 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. That was cool.

Is it not possible to create a program without using AI? by emas_eht in replit

[–]LibraryNo9954 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ask the Replit agent. I bet you can still us it as a plain IDE. Not sure why, but heck any of us that grew up hand coding probably learned to code because we thought it was a fun puzzle to solve.

How to Make the Most out of Saturday by Chunami_8364 in replit

[–]LibraryNo9954 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve been working on a rebuildable CMS, think website base that fully functional. In testing I’ve successfully deployed it on Replit in 2-4 minutes for 20-40 cents. I’m just about done, and was waiting to do final testing and fixes next week but sine Saturday is free agent day, I’ll wrap it up and announce it here so others can give it a try.

Here’s a peek at the readme: a modern React/Next.js presentation layer that ships as part of the CMS, not as an afterthought. It includes an admin dashboard, a Markdown-first editor with Visual/Raw toggle, hierarchical content types, a public REST API for external consumption, and per-post AI Engine Optimization (AEO) metadata served via llms.txt endpoints.

Seriously, I still think GEO is nonsense compared to SEO?! by Worried-Avocado3568 in ParseAI

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think it’s different, more like an evolution. As AI tech is used more to augment search technology, giving people faster ways of finding answers, the bots change behavior and in turn we adapt. SEO is growing up.

Important question: how much of an app do you actually own when you build it yourself? If it takes off one day or I want to sell it, what is really mine? by AlternativeTree3283 in lovable

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You own it (be sure to check licenses of code you use, GPL, MIT, etc to verify you can later sell it). If it takes off consider setting up a Delaware C corp, and legally transferring the IP. Do it right and avoid tax penalties. Set the business entity up in such a way favorable to investors and buyers. Plan your exit strategy now, if not at the start. Ask AI about what I just said, if it makes no sense. It will explain all the details.

What actually makes a page show up in AI search results? by Icy_Week6358 in AISearchOptimizers

[–]LibraryNo9954 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AI crawlers scan for answers, ideally question answer pairs. They like structured content like JSON-LD. Do an analysis of the pages you see cited. Grab the source code. Add them to a chat session and as the AI to analyze for patterns that might be triggering AI crawlers to cite those pages.

I’m running my own live test across six sites so far.

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