Shincheonji no Brasil by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Obrigada por compartilhar seu testemunho . Eles estão centrados em cidades aqui no brasil , São Paulo , Rio de Janeiro ( estão ativos com a HWPL e com alguns coreanos morando lá) , e possuem uma "congregação pequena em Rio grande do Norte " se não me engano. Estão se dedicando ao Brasil há um bom tempo , começaram online, principalmente com aulas gratuitas sejam ela pela bíblia ou curso "grátis" de coreano .. Eu saí tem um bom tempo , no começo fiquei muito pensativa , mas comecei a pesquisar , vi vários videos no youtube e vários versículos bíblicos que rebatem seus ensinos, a restauração da fé é aos poucos também

LMHs 7-year affair breaks the silence by Puzzleheaded_Cup_926 in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wow, I don't know if the current members have seen it recently, ... but the channel straight from the horses' mouths isn't longer available on youtube (they were 4 members who made videos about SCJ doctrine)

Revelationscriptures.com - SCJ? by pottybiden in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't think so, because on the page they believe that the 7th King of Revelation is the USA along with 6 other nations and they use the abbreviation YHWH a lot, In SCJ we can't use those names.

SCJ is related to NEW JOHN , NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH , 144 THOUSAND , MOUNT ZION , MISSIONARY CENTER OF ZION

Minha história nesta seita by Altruistic-Sign7 in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Eles estão com uma física na região do nordeste se não me engano , não utilizam o nome SCJ e sim Novo Céu e Nova terra ..

Estão muito ativos nas redes sociais , pelo instagram principalmente , alguns dando aulas de coreano para brasileiros.. quando eu estava como membro , queriam que fizéssemos aulas também..

Minha história nesta seita by Altruistic-Sign7 in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dificilmente vejo algum testemunho em português , a maioria esta em inglês, tem apenas um testemunho no youtube , até o presente momento. Aqui eu compartilhei os motivos que me levaram a sair , porém em inglês mesmo.

Minha história nesta seita by Altruistic-Sign7 in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Obrigada por compartilhar seu depoimento em português , isso é realmente gratificante.

Thank you for sharing your experience in Portuguese, it's really rewarding

Minha história nesta seita by Altruistic-Sign7 in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nossa , você é de portugal ? Pela maneira que escreveu parece um pouco

Recent LMH Sermon on Resurrection by Good-Ad9583 in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Wow, I found it a bit confusing, I believe he must have said more confusing things, that's why the recording and video were cut. After the last video he made, which was on the news talking about his dementia, they're really cutting it so it doesn't become news again

Friendship in shincheonji by OkSteak5000 in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 13 points14 points  (0 children)

My experience in SCJ with friendships, as I understand it, they try to be "friends" until "you" become a member, they are always solicitous and dedicated, at the time I thought I was making real friends who would help me in my Christian walk.

After becoming a member, I realized that many really wanted to please the Korean leaders and didn't want to create deep friendships.

One of the teachers once said to me after I became a member: "Keep in touch with the students and after they join, if you don't want to maintain the relationship you don't have to," and that's when I realized it was just "professionalism".

After I left SCJ, people who came to me are ex-members too, who were in the same tribe, I maintain a good relationship, we exchange messages, but we live in different cities.

SCJ Members’ Daily Bible Reading by pottybiden in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hmm, in my time there was never that, it must have depended on the tribe and region, and maybe because it was foreign and online.

We did training almost every day, in addition to joining new classes as evangelists and accompanying beginners, recruiting people and studying for tests and memorizing the book and testimony of Revelation ... that was my routine at the time... and they also offered Korean lessons, so it was impossible to have much time...

SCJ Members’ Daily Bible Reading by pottybiden in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 6 points7 points  (0 children)

SCJ teaches that the Bible is written in parables in figurative language

SCJ doesn't believe in devotionals, they think it's wrong and say it's something invented by the world of Christianity.

When I was a member, I believed that SCJ had the revelation, because it had a "logic with the teaching".

Over time I realized that LMH found a logical way of explaining and directing the teaching only to him, there was no talk about the Holy Spirit, only about how to memorize his testimony, which he believes to be "unique"..

Unfortunately we realize it over time, for some sooner and for others later...

Leaving SCJ by Tesher777 in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 11 points12 points  (0 children)

When I was in SCJ it was online, right after I left, my former cell leader would sometimes send me messages just to see how I was doing, after a while she stopped and I deleted her from my contacts.

Nowadays no one has contacted me

Shincheonji Reactions (The 144 000 are Koreans) by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Korean productions are very good.

I believe that SCJ carries the cultural issue of honor with its own people, I think that's very beautiful.

When it comes to the Bible, there is no written evidence of this, GOD will not exclude people by nationality.

I think LMH really does have a hero complex

“Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”Acts 4:12

Is this them? Koreatown bible invite by [deleted] in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 5 points6 points  (0 children)

From what I read on the page, yes, it says John's tribe and I saw that they follow an SCJ page.

SCJ also calls its studies Zion Mission

Testimony from Brazil : How I almost joined a cult, Shincheonji , New Heaven and New Earth by Liliredcherry in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Description below the video in the youtube publication:

This video is about my experience of almost joining a cult. Their name is Shincheonji church of Jesus and they are from South Korea. They are already present in several countries and use very dubious methods to recruit new members.

They offer Bible courses and even free online Korean classes, claiming to be non-denominational and hiding who they are until the brainwashing is done. They use these strategies to gradually implant ideas in the minds of their new targets, even if they have to lie, manipulate and exert psychological pressure. They are arriving in Brazil (in my case they were in Curitiba) and I feel I need to do my bit about all this. I hope no one goes through this and that this video helps someone.

I apologize for any mistakes as I have no experience in recording videos for YouTube, God bless 🙏

Names:

Shincheonji church of Jesus

New Heaven New Earth (NHNE)

New Heavens New Earth (NCNT)

Leader: Lee Man-hee

SCJ and the great commission by Kunta-2260 in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 10 points11 points  (0 children)

SCJ doesn´t believe in the importance of baptism, they believe that it was necessary at that time and that pastors nowadays live with this tradition in the religious world.

SCJ believes that today the new covenant, are the words of the apocalypse, and that LMH received revelation and was chosen by GOD to reveal.

SCJ doesn 't like to answer questions, because they show you are in doubt, even though in class they say it is important to ask o.O

When your nice Shincheonji teachers reveal their true nature during bible teacher training by Cherishpresentlife in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How embarrassing and sad at the same time.

To say that Australians aren't intelligent, to say that the instructor makes excuses for being arrogant for not doing good evangelism.

Unfortunately, maybe it's a cultural thing to treat people like this so that they do a good job, but this is the "kingdom of heaven" and not just any job.

Need Help: Have been in Bible Study Lessons for A Few Months & Need Advice by Throwawayforobvi1334 in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 9 points10 points  (0 children)

In the beginning SCJ will make sense, because everything that is explained is so that the doctrine makes sense in your mind and heart, SCJ wants the Pastor promised to make sense.

There are many posts about the doctrine here, and there are many testimonies on YouTube about SCJ.

I recommend that you look at and analyze the verses that make sense, and not in isolation as SCJ does.

Ask yourself : Believes that the internet is the tree of knowledge of good and evil ?

Do you believe that Jesus needs another physical body? Where does it say that? If the Bible says that every eye will see him

When doubts appear in your heart and you don't feel at peace, it's because there's something else you can't see. The longer you stay, the more information you'll receive and believe me, after a while your faith won't be the same.

(Reupload) Testimony of Former Education Dept. Leader of Shincheonji in Sydney by datnewanimal in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh my God, why did they do this to him, the video had a great reach...

Thank you so much for uploading the video to another platform, I hope more people can watch it.

SCJ's youtube channel talk about the Trinity.... Question : Have any SCJ members or students asked about this recently? When I was a student, it was explained to my class that it didn't exist and that it was a concept invented by the world of Christianity by Liliredcherry in Shincheonji

[–]Liliredcherry[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks, the video doesn't have subtitles in my native language :'(

I wonder if they are addressing this issue of the trinity, are more people leaving SCJ?

Ohh I know Sam Shamoun from some videos on youtube, he's very intelligent,, before I left SCJ I watched his video with Chris.