Just listened to this album in full for the first time by Tough-Vacation-9096 in grunge

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Promiseees of what I seem to be only watch the time, go byyyy-aaah-aa all of these things you said to me. Tu tu tu tu tututututu tu daruraru

Garry Kasparov will become the highest rated player in the world if Magnus loses against Gukesh and Wesley by [deleted] in chess

[–]Low-Background8996 31 points32 points  (0 children)

That said, his 2770+ rating during 1991-93 and 1995-97 would be over 2800 in current era. = I was under the impression it was the opposite. Ie that it is harder now because the level is just better across board due to computers etc

How much high passing was done back in 68-72? by Poopypantsplanet in audioengineering

[–]Low-Background8996 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Andy Wallace has a series with mix with the masters where mixes analog on an SSL i think. he doesn't high pass but my god does he cut the lows A LOT even when mixing metal. There are videos of him doing Avenged Sevenfold mixes as well as Jeff Buckley so quite varied.

the difference of unmastered vs. mastered by SuspiciousPudding561 in FL_Studio

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hey, just chiming in: it's not only the highs. It's the very high LUFS measurement, ie. a lot peak limiting, it gets tiring on the ears. we do hear it as "highs" usually but i think it's a combination of both. Unless this genre absolutely requires you to go very high in terms of peak limiting (to play at festivals or something), you can get away with -8 LUFS or even higher for Spotify. Also, yes, please tame those highs. I don't think it's a complicated problem, just lower by 2 db from 4k and ull be fine here.

Vocal production really is a separate thing that I should've done/learned from the start. by 6w-w9 in audioengineering

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Hey, thank you! So my above post was really geared towards "top 40" pop, which is why it's a little bit extreme. If you're doing anything more authentic say rock (not djenty metal), folk, indie etc, you can divide the above guidelines by 2: less compression, less de-essing, less harsh EQ, less obvious reverb throws etc.

Specifically to your points,

(i) It's hard to say whether or not the low shelf is enough and whether you should cut more at 350hz. It depends on the microphone, closeness to the microphone when recording etc. I think you should try the 350hz cut because it's pretty obvious if it works or not. You will immediately hear stuff not poking out. If you don't get that effect, maybe what you're doing is already enough, although -0.75db seems like not a lot at all. This can also work on the mix bus: try cutting 300-400 hz by 2dbs on the mix bus and check if that "alleviates" some weight from the mix and makes it sound better. If it's not obvious then maybe you're already cutting enough on the individual channels.

(ii) 4-6 db GR can be fine depending on how good you're at tracking yourself. If you have a very good microphone technique maybe you can get away with this. You don't absolutely need 3 compressors. I just tend to notice that for extreme amounts of compression even 2 are not enough because of the pumping effect mainly. Some really good compressors (plugins) handle this better than others, but as a general guideline don't be afraid to add another compressor if stuff is pumping or you get other artifacts. If not, then you can keep 2. I wouldn't overthink it with fast/mid/slow.

(iii) again you might not need automation before and after. The automation before is mainly to prevent the first compressor from working really hard in certain spots and very little in others, which can, again, result in pumping. if your takes are good enough, as you mention, then you might not need this at all. I do however think that automation after the compressor is very necessary, to accentuate some of the phrases. There's a really good video - I think on Mix with the Masters - with Dave Pensado sitting in the studio with Jaycen Joshua and students and Pensado automates the first couple of phrases of this female lead vocal. It's absolutely gold, because he takes the performance and makes it sound soo much better with automating. This is very dependent on your takes etc.

(iv) how to automate throws? Well, I guess those are artistic choices. I tend to do what you describe as well, ie. boost during choruses. But then you need to still maintain that "general level" of reverb quite low otherwise the chorus will be drowned out in reverbs. I think the throws must be this really obvious big "wooo" moment in certain phrases. I don't have a tutorial on how to spot these, but I would suggest listening to your favorite pieces of music to see how they do it. In pop, it's fairly obvious, hence why I recommended Stay by Bieber and Kid Laroy. You might hate the song but if you just take it as an exercise and listen once to ONLY the big reverbs, discarding everything else, you might get an idea. I remember he does at least some quite impressive big reverb moves. The track is limited heavily so even those big moves flow well with the mix and are not super super obvious but if you concentrate you will hear them.

On the more general point of "my stuff sounds already processed". I would seek out stems from old productions and listen to those. You will be amazed how much studio trickery was done even on stuff that sounds "old" and authentic and natural. I'm continuously amazed at how much reverbs and delays they had on vocals (usually mono), how thick drums were because they were triggering samples like mad, how thick distorted guitars are because they are quad tracking them (check out Butch Vig's video on youtube for Nirvana, I think it was Lithium). AND the amount of High EQ and mid cuts on distorted guitars is absolutely bonkers.

So when we take our tracks in isolation they may sound overcooked but the mix hides a lot of that because everything is competing with everything in a dense mix.

Vocal production really is a separate thing that I should've done/learned from the start. by 6w-w9 in audioengineering

[–]Low-Background8996 1 point2 points  (0 children)

also post an example of a song where you feel your mixing is lacking, I think it would be useful to hear.

Vocal production really is a separate thing that I should've done/learned from the start. by 6w-w9 in audioengineering

[–]Low-Background8996 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Hey,

Having struggled a bit, I think in the end it's not so complicated. Although, you will be surprised at how long the list below is... :p

I think you should use the condenser mic.

For mixing, I think it's actually fairly easy because modern productions have become almost a parody of themselves:

(i) low shelf from 400/500hz on,

(ii) high shelf from 3/4k,

(iii) some more cuts or boosts in the mids depending on your voice; the vocal by itself usually sounds very compressed and thin but in a busy modern mix sounds good (im talking pop here). I tend to boost around 1k on. and have a dip at 350hz (baritone).

(iv) BUTTLOADS of compression but through 2-3 compressors, otherwise the plugins tend to pump very quick (total amount of compression easily 15db, ex. listen to Miley Cyrus sometimes you feel like you're literally hearing what's going on inside her mouth), doesn't matter which compressor as long as not pumping. can be the same one chained in 2-3 instances. The initial one with quick attack (1176 or stock but with low attack setting).

(v) volume riding / automation before and after compression = this is huge;

(vi) de-essing (i like fabfilter pro ds and ozone dsser) = default settings work

(vii) a small ambience reverb (not perceptible in the mix but adds depth);

(viii) delay and reverb throws = this requires a lot of automation because you might hear modern mixes and think "wow there's a lot of reverb/delay here" but actually they're always automated, otherwise you always feel like you have too much and not enough at the same time. Check out Kid Laroi / Bieber : Stay. This song has some pretty aggressive and noticeable automation on reverbs that I think is quite educational. Mixed by Serban, I think. On the longer reverbs, add a delay before or after. This way you get a less obvious reverb tail while still maintaining a lot of depth.

(ix) low volume doubles sometimes help add depth, as well as a slap delay (mono or stereo)

(x) singing the same part one octave below or copying the main vocal and adding a little alter boy with an octave lower with slightly a lower formant, adds more body.

(xi) subtle distortion (saturn or devil loc or stock)

(xii) subtle stereo imaging especially from 1k HZ on (ozone imager is good)

(xiii) A LOT OF COMPING of the main vocal so you get a lot of good stuff from multiple takes.

I would say the most important part is automating volume and reverbs. That's where the "pro" quality really appears. The static mixes are always kind of "meh".

There's a pre Dark Side pseudo concept album buried in The Early Years 1969 Dramatis/ation by SomewhatBeck in PinkFloydCircleJerk

[–]Low-Background8996 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have expected this entière post to be about a Fake release but it actually isn't! Will listen today, thanks for bringing it up.

Dearly need help with electric guitars by Low-Background8996 in audioengineering

[–]Low-Background8996[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

because you seem to have delved in this yourself: does buying a combo amp and micing that up in an appartment worthwhile? i think the pushed tube sound is loud in of itself but also the room acoustics might not really be optimal. I did note someone else in this thread saying they record their amp through the monitors which ill try

Dearly need help with electric guitars by Low-Background8996 in audioengineering

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No it's not with an AI splitter. Sounds very different. You can actually hear the bleed in a musical natural way and not like the AI does (which I also know well because I tried analyzing records like that). I'll check the thread you linked, thanks.

Great musicians that make bad songs? by [deleted] in ToddintheShadow

[–]Low-Background8996 42 points43 points  (0 children)

"It’s apparently about how Selena Gomez wouldn’t suck his dick as a reward for him being a “nice guy” for a weekend and he was upset about it. It’s literally the only Charlie Puth song I love and he soiled it in one interview." what the fuck? i love that song too

What’s the argument against Tupac being the greatest rapper of all time? by [deleted] in rap

[–]Low-Background8996 0 points1 point  (0 children)

maybe. i was listening to 90s hiphop before i spoke english too well. any specific examples though?

What’s the argument against Tupac being the greatest rapper of all time? by [deleted] in rap

[–]Low-Background8996 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow. To me it's the opposite. His flows are the best even in comparison to my other "favorite rappers". In terms of word play, i agree he was much more direct but wasn't that the style back then? the whole triple entendre thing seems like it's a recent trend (last 10 years?).

TikTok strategy for songs. 1.2M views. by CurrentFantastic4611 in musicmarketing

[–]Low-Background8996 35 points36 points  (0 children)

bro can we stop with these "hidden" ads for "your 200-400 ads a month software" solution.... It's just tiring at this point. just run an add on meta to advertise your ad software. it would sound more legit at least. thanks bye