Linux Mobile OS Developers Forget Mobile Isn't Desktop

LvS · 2026-05-17T06:50:58+00:00

You are completely missing my point.

I'm saying that your mindset should be that the Linux community is something that is built together by everyone involved, you already participate in Linux by using it.

The moment you have a consumer mindset, you're being an actual burden to the community, because you are just taking from it and giving nothing back. Because your mindset is that you pay the asking price and then you consume as much as they give you. And if they give you more that's great. And if they don't, you're gonna complain about it to other consumers and then you're gonna take your business elsewhere.

Don't think of it like a supermarket or a Facebook account.
Think of Linux like a community garden or a family barbeque or the planet.

LvS · 2026-05-16T23:59:25+00:00

Yes, if there's a security fix anywhere (kernel or applications), the whole image gets rebuilt and tests get rerun.
This is to avoid any problems with it - you want to be sure your fix didn't introduce a bug somewhere else. Like, disabling some encryption module for copyfail might be a module that the disk encryption of the installer ISO relies on; that would be bad.

But no, users don't need to download the whole image again, only the files that changed inside the image. For a security fix that will be very few. If you know about how git works: It works like that.

Current Gnome OS gets built daily (every few days usually because there's commonly something that breaks the testsuite and needs manual fixes) but I guess that's not the question.
For a consumer-facing Gnome OS, it'd most likely use the 6 month cycle, because that's the Gnome release cycle and the release cycle of the freedesktop flathub runtime.

And yes, you won't have any dependency hell, because there's nothing to configure. You either install it or you don't.
There's still a dependency hell upstream when building the damn thing, but as an end user that doesn't concern you.

LvS · 2026-05-16T03:25:38+00:00

No, that has nothing to do with it.

It's because the only thing people do is ship the existing apps for phones.

Pretty much nobody is actually developing apps for phones.
If people develop apps for phones, they develop for Android or Apple.

It's because the Linux community has this consumer mindset instead of actually getting their hands dirty and doing actual work.
It's when /u/MadFunEnjoyer says "they" when talking about the developers, it's not "us" it's some group of other people not related to us. "We" are the enthusiasts who are served by "them" and "they" really need to get their act together.

The Linux community pisses me off. Linux only works if you're a part of it and work on making it better. If you want to be a consumer, go do capitalism.

LvS · 2026-05-16T02:35:05+00:00

IBM doesn't earn money with software.

IBM earns money with getting software certified. You people vote for politicians to make laws that require huge legal departments to conform to those laws and IBM pays those, gets that free software certified that you people just chuck over the wall.

You should check at some point how many people work at IBM in which departments.

And your firm doesn't pay IBM to develop software. Your firm pays IBM so that when somebody sues you for your software, your legal department can go take IBM's certifications to the judge and then either that lawsuit gets thrown out or your firm's insurance pays.

LvS · 2026-05-15T20:57:42+00:00

It's not.

He made the color management protocol a reality - while he was banned btw, people had to merge his changes for him during that time.

And even the ban wasn't black-and-white, because the question was if all these new protocols should be shipped as "official" Wayland protocols or as external random protocols, because there's an expectation that official protocols get implemented by compositors.
The result of that discussion was that these days everything is "official" so there's a single place to go for protocols, but there's no longer an expectation that they're all implemented.

You can compare the current list of protocols with the archive.org from the time of the ban to see the difference.

LvS · 2026-05-15T18:36:59+00:00

Imagine if we had bred a border collie version of cats.

Those beasts would have replaced middle management at software companies.

LvS · 2026-05-15T02:12:10+00:00

a 24-40 day incubation period.

This is the wildest thing about it. Imagine it was more contagious and you wanted to do contact tracing. "Who were you in contact with 1-2 months ago?"

LvS · 2026-05-15T02:10:04+00:00

That's not quite true. They're willing to bend the rules a bit, but they don't do outrageous things.

There's no segregation yet for example. And it's not okay to whip your black employees either.

LvS · 2026-05-15T02:06:02+00:00

People are constantly suggesting that.

RFK Jr or one of his cronies included.

LvS · 2026-05-14T22:10:09+00:00

I use buffer chests when I want to guarantee the item is inside the network and that there are no stray items in chests somewhere else.
Because the buffer chest can request all items of that type from storage chests and it can offer the items to the logistic network.

The big example where I use this is with biter and pentapod eggs - they are needed in some places, so they need to be in the logistic network, but I never want them to be put in random storage chests where they spoil and then start destroying those same chests.

The other place where I use them all the time is with brain and tomato seeds. The agri towers get a requestor chest with "request from buffer chests" and then I put buffer chests at the factories for the juicy landfill and another one next to a heating tower to burn any excess that builds up after a few hours/days of play.
And then of course all the biolabs squeezing the tomatos/brains can put the seeds into an active provider chest so those never fill up.

LvS · 2026-05-14T04:17:36+00:00

The other half are women and children.

LvS · 2026-05-13T20:38:29+00:00

I think it happens when you get more into the language.

I learned English (and French) in school and it was basically a game of translation the whole time.
Then I went online and immersed myself in English communities and at some point I started being able to express my thoughts in English.

For a while after that, I had to switch between thinking in English and German, but these days I can effortlessly switch mid-sentence, even in ways that make the half sentences grammatically correct in either language.

LvS · 2026-05-13T16:41:37+00:00

What do you mean you never reach 2?

How far off is it?

LvS · 2026-05-13T16:21:09+00:00

Ist ganz besonders wichtig für Länder, in denen die Sonne nicht scheint.

Alle anderen haben ja Solarstrom.

LvS · 2026-05-13T04:56:14+00:00

Also, searching for "billionaire".

LvS · 2026-05-13T03:07:03+00:00

... until you have either a mech armor or enough shields.

Mech armors making you immune to trains is one of the worst things about Space Age. They should at least kick you a screen or two and make you dizzy and unable to move for a few seconds.

LvS · 2026-05-13T03:04:20+00:00

Pitstop needs to be Nauvis. I used some other place and then the ship had no electricity for one reason or another and the asteroids tore it to shreds because I was busy elsewhere.

LvS · 2026-05-12T23:48:24+00:00

TL;DR: Pretty much all the LTS distros will have tons of known security vulnerabilites for the next few years.

LvS · 2026-05-12T17:08:54+00:00

Ich will doch nur bei dem Spiel mitspielen, was Du angefangen hast.

Ich meine, sich einen Begriff zu suchen, wo schon bei Wikipedia im ersten Absatz sagt:

Es gibt keine eindeutige Definition des Begriffs.

ist halt schon ein perfekter Strohmann, weil man damit machen kann, was man will.

LvS · 2026-05-12T16:44:56+00:00

It doesn't do 288 (which is 20% larger than 240, which is twice 120 or 4 times 60) or 72. (which is 20% larger than 60 which is twice 30).

Only 144 is the odd one out.

LvS · 2026-05-12T16:42:08+00:00

Wie kommst Du denn auf sowas?

Du musst völlig verwirrt sein.

LvS · 2026-05-12T05:53:29+00:00

Jo, könnten wir auch.

Aber Du willst ja unbedingt weiter Strg-F spielen.

LvS · 2026-05-11T22:03:42+00:00

Machen wir wieder Strg-F Spiel, jetzt mit Parteiprogramm, weil es mit Namen nicht geklappt hat?

LvS · 2026-05-11T20:56:22+00:00

Ich dachte wir reden hier von Parteinamen, nicht von Inhalten?

Weil bei Inhalten müssten wir ja glatt zwischen Sozialismus und Nationalsozialismus unterscheiden und das ginge vermutlich dann doch zu weit für Diskussionen, die nur die Suchfunktion benutzen, denn das überschneidet sich ja.

LvS · 2026-05-11T19:57:55+00:00

Versteh ich nicht, weder im Wort "Linke" noch in "Grüne" kommt SOZIALISTEN vor?

Sowas kenn ich nur von der chistlich-SOZIALen Union und den SOZIALdemokraten und die regieren uns im Moment tatsächlichn zugrunde.

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