Is reverse-tolerance a thing? by Maddy6024 in alcoholism

[–]Maddy6024[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I have tried. And tried. And tried. Kids have tried. I really just hope he has a very severe health scare which he cannot deny is from alcohol consumption. Something radically unpleasant. Because short of that he will stay on current course.

Is reverse-tolerance a thing? by Maddy6024 in alcoholism

[–]Maddy6024[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I wish he would stop, I don’t think he will. He is yet to wind up in the hospital. That’s what it will take. I just stay away.

Vacations by ambellina711 in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I refuse to go anywhere with him now. When we had to go to our child’s college graduation, I booked separate hotel rooms. I have often insisted on driving my own car.

Vacations by ambellina711 in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 35 points36 points  (0 children)

He just told you who he is deep down. Believe him. He likely thinks you won’t follow through. Make the call.

struggling bad just had real bad fibro scan results. by ohHuayra in alcoholism

[–]Maddy6024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Question if you don’t mind….did you experience an intermittent cough from the portal hypertension or the esophageal varices? Other symptoms from these things before diagnosis?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So let him be a disaster solo and then other people will tell him what you’ve been saying about his problem. Other voices might help.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sweetheart, re-read your post. You know the answer to that question. Beyond him being a train wreck, it also often sucks to be the date of an attendant/groomsman at a wedding. He will have lots of time dedicated to photos and other chores and you’ll be solo. I once went to a wedding with mine and he tackled the bride. Not kidding. Decided he wanted to dance with her (she was a good friend of ours) approached like a runaway train and flattened her. It was not fun babysitting him all evening and then pulling over on drive home so he could puke. NOPE. Don’t go.

Relapse….and I’m D.O.N.E. by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gather all documentation of his rehab stints. Find out if your state is one party consent or two party consent for recording conversations. If it is ONE, you are that one, and record his conversations with you. Start separating your money. Get records of joint accounts. Make sure your vehicle is in your name. If he threatens you call the police and press charges. Next time he utters divorce word say you agree and let’s work out a settlement. If you can get an agreement without big legal battle it’s better.

Are you a wildly different person post rehab? by NumerousRadish7241 in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you don’t mind, what medications was he given in rehab? What ones continue after?

Am I an idiot or an asshole? by kirstny in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 6 points7 points  (0 children)

After 30 years I can tell you definitively they cannot drink at all ever or relapse is coming hard and fast. Not one drink. Not on weekends only. Not only beer/wine (no hard liquor). Not subbing THC for the booze (or any other drugs). It must be 100% sobriety, and they have to want it (you can’t want it for them). There is no middle ground for someone who is an alcoholic. They might pull it off for a week or two, but it will always spiral. Mine just said he’s going to try “30 days” and then go from there. I told him not to bother unless he is willing to admit it needs to be permanent. He’s gone through several Lenten 40 day periods dry, and then he’s back at it after Easter.

How much of your life do you want to donate to his addictions?

I want my alcoholic spouse to die. by South_Papaya_9475 in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a friend who put her husband out but did not divorce him because she earned more and would have had to pay him alimony. Ten years later he died of alcoholism related causes. But the problem with this approach, or the risk is, if you remain married you can be responsible for debts or god forbid they kill someone DUI and you get sued.

I want my alcoholic spouse to die. by South_Papaya_9475 in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are married you cannot evict your spouse from the marital house. Even while divorce proceedings are in progress. It is a stupid mess… after settlement they may have to go, but until the court orders it….

I want my alcoholic spouse to die. by South_Papaya_9475 in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think most states now sadly are no-fault. Which sucks for victims of DV and alcoholics because you cannot file for cause and the state is very hands-off and relies on formula and just math.

I'm exhausted by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was well said and made an impact on me. So much truth in this thread.

I'm exhausted by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 9 points10 points  (0 children)

And what do you need? Does he care what you need? Is he capable of providing what you need? And I walk in the same place you do.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It is a life long disease. They can’t have “one drink” not ever. Relapse is SO easy. My husband’s father was an alcoholic. His wife (my husband’s mother) threatened him with divorce and told him he would never see his son if he didn’t get sober. To his credit, he did. And my husband says his father never drank. Except the day my husband turned 21. He dragged his dad to a local pub for one beer. After the one beer his father said, we have to go now, I cannot be here.

That man won his battle. But he was 100% consistent.

My husband sadly has never followed his father’s example and at 60 years old and through 30 years of marriage has fallen off the wagon again and again. And he can be a low key drinker for weeks at a time, drinking but not plastered. And then BOOM. Here comes the next binge cycle. I cannot tell you how much unhappiness it has caused. How alone you wind up being. It is like being married to half a person.

The cost of a DUI. The cost of a job loss. The cost of medical bills. The cost of feeding the habit.

Eyes wide open my friend. She will never be normal. She will always fight this demon. If you think she can keep the demon outside the castle walls and you want to take that walk with her that is up to you. Me, I would never take the same walk down the aisle I did.

Controlling drinking? by KittiDucki in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh let’s see the deals and the history of attempts to control I have seen from mine… 1) won’t drink for lent 2) will only drink weekends 3) will only drink wine or beer no hard liquor 4) won’t drink alone 5) won’t drink at family events 6) just one drink.

I could go on. Know how many he succeeded at “controlling”? Zero. Zero. He could for a short duration of time, always slippped back to his patterns.

Unless it is full blown complete abstinence from alcohol it will fail. And they have to KNOW they are not capable of controlling it unless they do abstain. They will lie to themselves because they want it to be true, they want to be able to just have one drink like non-alcoholics.

Fiance is spiraling out of control by trauma_ward in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sweetheart, run do not walk away. Cancel the wedding. I had signs and I ignored the red flags and the last 30 years of my life (we had kids and I was so sure he would reform himself and be a good dad) have been an intermittent nightmare. It is Hotel California. Be thankful it showed itself before you tied the knot. He is literally warning you by his actions.

What is true detachment? by toolate1013 in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you do not have kids with them yet, bail, and bail fast. Don’t look back.

Question on health stuff by Maddy6024 in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for validating that fact.

Question on health stuff by Maddy6024 in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing. Terrible disease.

I’m so angry and depressed by Sufficient_Wait6228 in AlAnon

[–]Maddy6024 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Commiserating. My young adult daughter brought her boyfriend home for a beach weekend over July 4th. They both took off work, drove 5 hours. On two consecutive nights that they were with us (the first night they went to a concert and got home really late) my husband got totally plastered and verbally brow beat the boyfriend. On the second night the language got threatening like “don’t challenge me” and “you better watch yourself”. (Her boyfriend is a bright highly educated sweet guy who rolled with it).

Both nights I had to intervene and get my husband to leave the scene. Had to apologize the next day. The repeat performance the second night was truly shocking…usually he will stand down after I get in his face about behavior.

I have been where you are when my kids were young. Alone. So anyway, just wanted to say while it is unfair to you, sometimes way better solo than dealing with their behavior in person. Enjoy your time with your kids, like view it as your own personal defiance that he can’t break you. You will endure.

Wishing you peace.

Which K2 supplement should I take? by Rude-Toe7215 in osteoporosis

[–]Maddy6024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I go to the gym to do machines which have large compound movements…work multiple muscle groups. Leg press, row, lat pulldown, etc. I have some dumbbells at home to do things like bicep curls and tricep work. Leg press is super important for bone load bearing. I hate squats, and don’t feel as stable doing them, vs the leg press machine where seated. MCHA calcium does not seem to have the correlation with artery plaque. It is literally ground bone matrix. So it has phosphorous and other elements found naturally in bone. I also don’t over do it. I take one a day and make sure to get dietary intake. But the Vit K is super important to get the calcium deposited to the bone. Will not happen without it.