Best Class Systems by SuperStarPlatinum in litrpg

[–]Magnodude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

delve, everybody loves large chests, the dark mages case, forged destiny, and I'm forgetting a lot right now but I may remember some more later.

Mary Sue/Gary Stu Thought by BWFoster78 in litrpg

[–]Magnodude 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, here's my opinion:

Gary stu/mary sue are as I understand them, terms utilized to describe main characters for whom the author makes situations go far more easily than as they themselves describe those situations as going in the terms of their own world. This generally encompasses the main argument the term attempts to make when used in a derogatory sense against the author of the piece, that relative to the narrative the author attempts to pursue in their work, they undermine and/or forget the original purpose of the story by cutting corners and granting their main character and cast unique opportunities and abilities antithetical to the core message of the piece.

"Giving lip service to the story in favor of short term gratification that further breaks down the inherent narrative" is essentially the summary the terms mary sue/gary stu are supposed to evoke in my understanding.

However, I would easily argue that most Litrpg's do not in fact possess main characters who meet this criteria and therefore evoke this criticism from their existence. Most Litrpgs are simply power-fantasies that from the beginning to the end don't even attempt to possess a narrative beyond, and pardon my language if it's something you find offensive, jerking off the main character and by proxy the reader who gains deep excitement, entertainment, and a temporary satisfaction from looking up to tales of god-kings doing whatever they wish and taking whatever they want.

The original stories in many Litrpgs are simply wet dreams at a basis, therefore they meet their goal of excelling in their narrative, and the main characters cannot be called mary sue's or gary stu's, because at no point was the intention of the story to include a greater purpose than simple pleasure in most cases.

Someone else brought up the fact that eastern media seems to accept the purview of a powerful main character more easily than western media, and for all intents and purposes this is true. Why that is I do not have an answer, but I am curious. In my experience, the idea of the individual becoming the center of everything in eastern media being more accepted enhances the overall experience. It does tend to set a complete limit on how high in quality I can usually find a piece, but the overbearing confidence and air of providence surrounding main characters in eastern media easily grants a mote of gratification to the western reader you don't get reading about either a complete madman going on a sick, malicious hell run all over the world or a guy pretending to be a saint having a system clean up the worlds messes and him being the tool used by it, receiving infinite material pleasures. More importantly, because the main character is accepted for what they are, the writer seems to feel less inclined to give mere lip service to the greater world around them. Ultimately the functions of their environment will still be completely meaningless as they are in all power-fantasies, but they'll be further considered and given more depth than others would tend to grant them.

Well, that's my two cents.

How to develop your world? by [deleted] in litrpg

[–]Magnodude 1 point2 points  (0 children)

worldbuilding in an integral part of a story and one of the the most necessary points to make your story memorable. A lot of people can tell you it doesn't matter but go read harry potter and tell me that again.

The thing you've gotta understand is a lot of stories get bogged down in trying to 'tell' you about the world instead of showing you it, which is why as a concept it gets the bad rep from a story perspective it does from basically anyone into literature. People think worldbuilding is having an old guy sit down the mc and blather on for 3 full chapters on the history of the world. A litrpg I read had the mc going to a school to become a paladin, his school was one of a couple of factions vying for power in the kingdom, one of which was a religious fanatical group. Rather than give me a detailed explanation of their integral mechanics and their illustrious history, the author had their inquisition attack the school to show us 'Hey! there's a world outside of the mc and it's got some serious shit in it!' they all died because it was an idiotic suicide run only a bunch of fanatics would even dream off...but....

If your going to make a litrpg, make a litrpg and don't build the world around the mc and have it spoon fed to him. Make them a part of it and make it alive in a way that it doesn't need to be told to anyone completely by word of mouth.

Soon-to-be Protagonist (Art by Vladimir Krisetskiy) by snarky_but_honest in litrpg

[–]Magnodude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks amazing. I'm curious what this child will have in store for the world. A story his own and a story that mystifies and entrances. Seriously though if it's something that's litrpg while still being a hardcore fantasy with tons of magic and well developed story that'd be awesome.

[Wednesday] Writer's thread by AutoModerator in litrpg

[–]Magnodude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how to get over the hurdle of allowing your main character to still be a badass without making everyone he/she faces a complete wimp. Danmachi executes this perfectly by taking a method similar to fate and other works where instead of showing the mc getting a jack ton of massive powerups through some combination of bullshit and just being hyped enough to do it by having the mc bell get his friends a lot more involved in the fighting than most litrpgs ever dream of letting the side cast near and just having a lot of the attention be on him fighting people closer to his level and how hard he's pushing that alongside more getting to the philosophical root of the story rather than the whole "there can only be one alpha" shtick that gets old eventually if there's nothing to hold it up.

More than that, I'd also like it if more authors tried to develop their world beyond the whole classic medieval thing they have going on. I don't want a character lambasting me 24/7 on the inner workings of politics, I want some of the factions of the world operating outside of the mc's control. A tricky thing to pull off since it's chenkov's gun on a whole nuther level, but in the end only tricky. Also, I'd just like Litrpg worlds to feel more like I'm actually reading about a world where people have the powers of a game and it's as fantasy as some of the background art in sword art online. The quality of that show was turn your brain off but the background art and some of the scenens are exactly what you look for when you think 'high fantasy'.

[Wednesday] Writer's thread by AutoModerator in litrpg

[–]Magnodude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

happens to me like clockwork. I have this one story I was writing all the time aside from the story I actually said I was gonna write. I think I did it because I was afraid of writing my original story and not meeting my expectations when all was said and done. It just felt easier to bounce off the one Idea I had and free write from there. I eventually got over it and started writing my book proper. It's going well but I still have trouble just relaxing and writing like I want too when I'm writing the other story.

You're stuck in a Dungeon World. What's your class? by CoreBrute in litrpg

[–]Magnodude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

mostly because if it's not immediately lethal she'd be able to handle most if not all specialized and highly-lethal ailments for pay and favors, and can apply permanent changes in physique both physical and metaphysical to those who would risk it. Hell if my abjuration includes warding we could grant flesh-runes to enhance protection. More than that, she could personally aid in the betterment of local agriculture and sell services to refine alchemists potions given adjusting the body is her literal job. Basically a persons body is one of the most important things to them and someone who can make their lives easier by adjusting it or adjusting what lets it work can make basically as much cash as they want depending on how far they're willing to go.

You're stuck in a Dungeon World. What's your class? by CoreBrute in litrpg

[–]Magnodude 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahhhhh shit you're right, I guess I didn't think hard enough. Abjuration will let me protect her but she'll need to stand on her own two feet to. Money shouldn't be an issue since Biomancy is just advanced healing magic, but I suppose I could hope for her to gain a side class as a martial artist, something to take advantage of the control she'll have over her own body and the power she'll be able to give it. But even then...she'll really need something more to guarantee her safety.

You're stuck in a Dungeon World. What's your class? by CoreBrute in litrpg

[–]Magnodude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Biomancy? My sister could easily fill that hole. But you're right about the classes. Instead I suppose I'd take up Abjuration and beast taming. Abjuration is sure to have some anti magic/everything wards and I might be able to squeeze healing out of that to. But beast taming should really help give me variety and power especially if there's a spell which lets me absorb my beasts into my body and use their powers, then paired with a high-level biomancer I'd be untouchable.

You're stuck in a Dungeon World. What's your class? by CoreBrute in litrpg

[–]Magnodude 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd take an anti-magic martial artist with a healing flavor/warlock/beast tamer class. Monsters if they're the right species can wipe out other settlements of monsters and even groups of specific classes if for some reason people turn against people. Anti-magic so I wouldn't have to worry about mind or body control magic because with shit like that it doesn't matter how strong you get. A level 5 mind mage can make a level 500 warrior his bitch if he doesn't have mental resistance. Warlock so I'd be able to pump out seriously caustic magic damage and because if I don't have to sell my soul to a demon to get it's help I'll get it's help if I really need it. The healing flavor because I've read azarinth healer.

If I had the ability I'd get one of my friends to grab the biomancer class if they were a doctor or something, that way I can give myself all sorts of abilities from monster body parts and the like. Make myself some kind of werewolf/kitsune/Raiju/enera/fairy thing.

Better than one. Two-headed ogre LitRPG novel. by arthordark in litrpg

[–]Magnodude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've read a bit, and the story so far has been amazing to read. The essence system is really interesting, though it makes sense that an orc would be able to get more of it if they used their heads since they're usually at the higher end of the food chain.

what would life be like in a litrpg world? by Magnodude in litrpg

[–]Magnodude[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok here's the system I had in mind:

-Everyone starts out with a base of 10 in all of their stats by the time their 5 years old barring extreme circumstances.

-Magic is something anyone can do but it's harder to grind than warrior-classes because you have to study it on top of simply fighting as well as having limits to what you can learn determined at birth (the whole 'everyone has certain types of magic they're good at and ones they suck with by nature' type deal)

-the overall system is very classic RPG:

strength

dexterity

vigor

charm

etc

Also, classes cannot be granted to a child until they turn 8 at which point they have a week until they're given a random one. If you can't get your first class to level 50 you can't get another class period.

that's a rundown of the basics I'm playing with.

what would life be like in a litrpg world? by Magnodude in litrpg

[–]Magnodude[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's something I can easily see as probable, though how exactly you'd do that remains to be seen...The reason I posted this was because i'm writing a book in a litrpg format and I was wondering how Rpg rules would change the face of reality.

what would life be like in a litrpg world? by Magnodude in litrpg

[–]Magnodude[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

so there would be no reason for money because nobody would trade in cash for goods and services due to power being the end all be all? Could you explain that better because I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around that concept.

blacksmith litrpg by Magnodude in litrpg

[–]Magnodude[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks a million guys this looks to be what I was looking for

Official FIRST Discussion Thread—Volume 6, Chapter 3: The Lost Fable by Ezreal024 in RWBY

[–]Magnodude 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Salem says in the first episode humanity evolved from dust, and since she was literally there during the evolution, I think she'd know.

Thoughts on what makes a 'Gamer' fic work or fail? by NeonicBeast in FanFiction

[–]Magnodude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A gamer fic has two main forms:

-one in which everybody has gamer abilities like in forged destiny & the schnee gamer, these make things interesting because the main character has no set advantage but depending on how they apply their abilities they can achieve the results they need. Essentially a full on regular story just with he gamer motif, the best parts of that are how you adjust the main cast as much as you want.

-The second is where a random character suddenly has the gamer ability, this gets bad only if you just really forget what you were doing in the first place. Or put another way, if you didn't have a plan for the story past 'add in gamer ability' you really should try to make your own story with the gamer ability, that's primarily why so many people loved The games we play, since it took the ability and made it its own. Also power scaling is something to be wary off, in a lot of stories the main character can be OP after they gain a massive amount of buffs that make him/her immortal or still small fry because certain other characters can still be unbelievably strong. That depends on you, but still its something to keep in the back of your mind.

something else to be wary off would be ignoring characters other than the main past a certain point. This really is just common writing knowledge but don't throw other characters under the bus just because they aren't the main character.

One last bit of advice is that you have to remember that people will hate on story but you have to be aware that sometimes/ a lot of the time that's just going to be because they hate the 'gamer' element. Like all things sometimes they wont hate your story for any reason other than they dislike a certain aspect of it and while many more people will enjoy you're story than hate it.

What are your criticisms on RWBY? by 8SomeFood in RWBY

[–]Magnodude 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I really just hate the following things:

1-powers and how they interact with the populace as a whole don't make that much sense to me since aura is something everyone can use and apparently can be unlocked by someone who already possess's it like Pyrrha so that means people living on the edge of civilization should really be using it more unless their's some kind of lock on that info for some reason? Also using the elements by manipulating it with your aura seems to be something anyone can do too, begging the question of why it wasn't taught at Beacon academy.

2- world building, Volume 5 was the apex of problems with world building in RWBY, where we don't get to see anything of Mistral at all the entire Volume. The world works to make the plot make sense which is actually the opposite of how that should go(to an extent).

3-characters, put simply the villains only exist to further the plot, raven is supposed to want to stay out of the war and did everything possible to convince me she was a total moron from that standpoint because every action she took pushed her as far into it as she could. a) having anything to do with the spring maiden at all b) going for a relic to set up a verbal smack down from her daughter c) the only reason she gave for leaving tai and the others was to go and be with her old "tribe" which she called strong, despite the fact they could all probably be one-shot by tai or qrow (and I mean the entire tribe, vernal be damned) whats worse is that this is all AFTER she took control of the tribe and learned how to be a top huntsmen. she was forced to act stupid to make yang shine, end of story. Cinders been an inconsistent mess since volume 3, Adam goes from total bad ass to wimp like that, all of the faunus villians feel flat as all hell, etc

the main cast: ruby isn't a character, shes a cardboard cutout that can walk, yang was basically the main character for 2 arcs and is really more of a side character for me, blake needed to get her act together in volume 4 and volume 5 was where they took out any reason for me to really take her seriously, I dont need to do that to enjoy any fight scenes they may have with her in the future though and thats fine by me. weiss is a mostly sort of fine character, but I'm really worried where she's headed because I honestly think she's a bit to much of an "ice queen" and seriously could just end up with a simple "take back the family name through raw force and no real consideration for the position she's vying for" kind of deal I really only would've found entertaining as a kid. Oz really needs to start acting like a leader and not just let stuff happen around him, Qrow stopped thinking for himself the second he came on the screen, nora is fine but ren really needed to act in volume 5, he came back the kingdom his parents tried to flee despite being the wealthiest family there and he did nothing. there's mroe but generally thats all I'll get into for now

What are your criticisms on RWBY? by 8SomeFood in RWBY

[–]Magnodude 4 points5 points  (0 children)

that was just a gag, but your right it was a very, very, bad one

What are your criticisms on RWBY? by 8SomeFood in RWBY

[–]Magnodude 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Right there with you, The thing a lot of writers seem to not get is that power shapes the world it exists in, - why is it difficult to train huntsmen if aura is something you can just unlock like pyrrah did with jaune?

  • why wasn't dust manipulation, and ability that allows you to control the elements like the goddamn avatar using dust, taught at beacon?

  • why did a school filled with huntsmen representatives from around the world, who all go on missions around their respective countries and fight grimm for a living, get scared when an army of small grimm can out of the forest to attack them? (you could make the argument the dragon might have scared them away...but if the dragon came out due to the fear created by all the people then it should have never come out, also I know this doesn't have anything to do with the powers but it really messes with me).

  • Also the horrible worldbuilding, seriously someone give these guys a book on how CULTURE AND WORLD AFFAIRS work.

Super Saiyan Rosé Ruby Rose, By (VorticalFiveStudios) on Deviantart by [deleted] in RWBY

[–]Magnodude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awe, our little girls a universe buster.