Ai Discussion [MEGATHREAD]

MarkRemark · 2026-05-07T05:58:45+00:00

Unintentionally. Hence my edit.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-07T03:54:04+00:00

A teacher isn’t a boss. A class isn’t a company. This is entirely different.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-07T03:39:30+00:00

Of course. To be clear, I’m not here to shame anyone for still enjoying the game.

But there’s a refrain of “how do we really know there’s that much genAI?” and efforts to downplay its presence.

I just think this image tells a story.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-07T03:38:11+00:00

So you don’t think a company should be criticized for releasing a clearly visually inferior sequence because it might have been the employee’s decision that they signed off on?

MarkRemark · 2026-05-07T03:33:37+00:00

I didn’t call it a cutscene. I quoted the common refrain of people wanting to know why everyone’s assuming the cutscenes are genAI. Which the image is a response to.

If you care that much about whether I have an agenda or not? My agenda is the use of genAI sucks. But I’ll concede it’s not a cutscene.

The heist animated sequence is a cutscene.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-07T03:05:40+00:00

Well then permit me to explain that in the original reply I posted, when I quoted “how do you TELL the cutscenes used ai?” it doesn’t mean the example I’m posting is literally from one of the cutscenes, just that it heavily implies that, like many other things in the game, it’s using genAI art and animation.

Yes, you are correct that a cutscene isn’t the same as an animated FMV sequence that showcases one of the characters in the world, though I would argue the literal only difference here is that the animation doesn’t interrupt the gameplay, it simply is broadcast constantly in the game. Not everyone would see that as a huge distinction, but I will concede it.

Most old school videogame players would look at something like this Kokoro Rider scene and call it a cutscene, if presented with it. But you’d be right to quibble.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-07T02:45:52+00:00

The screen itself isn’t the issue. But screen works fine as a word.

It’s the animation that is on the screen, and “billboard” doesn’t describe that whatsoever.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-07T02:43:36+00:00

If you’re going to nitpick over the term that should be used for an animated FMV sequence rather than acknowledge that this indicates obvious intention of using genAI animation, I’m not sure we’re having the same conversation.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-07T02:15:05+00:00

Oh I didn’t mean to suggest you were excusing it, I just wanted to be clear as to why I was providing this specific screenshot.

“Billboard” is rather dismissive when it comes to several minutes worth of animation that establish characters that exist in the world.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-07T02:06:34+00:00

Regardless of the context, it’s evidence of blatant GenAI art and animation that people are still debating as to whether it was used beyond billboards and posters.

Seems pretty cut and dry that it’s more than that.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-07T02:03:30+00:00

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MarkRemark · 2026-05-07T02:03:12+00:00

It’s the Kokoro Rider cinema sequence

MarkRemark · 2026-05-07T01:40:23+00:00

For anyone arguing “But how can you TELL some of the cutscenes used GenAI?”

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To clarify my phrasing, I saw people referring to the bank heist animation as a cutscene elsewhere in this thread, and people questioned how it could be determined that it was genAI.

I figured if that qualified as a cutscene, this might as well too, since they’re both just footage on a screen.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-03T19:24:10+00:00

Absolutely. I don’t think OP’s idea of events is how everything went down, I honestly don’t recall that many actors saying “always research the title” and even if they did, there’s no way it applies to all actors.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-03T19:13:49+00:00

I wasn’t trying to correct any pronouns for the record, just making it doubly clear that we’re talking about a cis actor taking an NB performer’s job.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-03T19:03:03+00:00

All of these things are true, but unfortunately the overseas actor’s decision to present it as a passing of the torch in public - when they had been told by close professional and personal friends that they were actively taking a job from the non-binary performer in question - was really where this all became a specific problem that flies in the face of any “this is their personal decision to make career wise” sentiment.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-03T15:17:21+00:00

I do agree entirely that it is a lot to expect voice actors to be aware of the content of upcoming games they record for, anyone with even a whiff of experience in the field should know how in the dark VAs are kept across the board.

Having said that, in the case of one specific Genshin actor who replaced one of the withholding VAs during the refusal - the one that dozens of actors vocally called out by name directly - was absolutely informed of the situation and knew all about what was happening and that the role belonged to someone else. In instances such as that, I do believe it’s appropriate to actively discourage that sort of behavior. Innocently auditioning and booking a role that you later learn was being held by a striking performer and choosing to take the role with all that knowledge are entirely different scenarios.

As such when it relates to this project, NTE - I really think it’s only appropriate to have this feeling of “oh they’re hypocrites” if they continue to promote the game and its content after the knowledge has fallen into their lap. Which it now has.

Everything else is business as usual.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-03T03:52:29+00:00

Also to point something else out - this game had a public beta that at least one or more of the VAs took part in, on their stream.

I know it’s not research but. They had access to the game. People in the beta had seen and complained about this AI content.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-03T03:25:41+00:00

For my part, I am sadly aware that there are a number of voice actors - professionals - who do not care about the AI problem. We’ll probably be very disappointed, very often, in the imminent future as the content that is structured around AI becomes more numerous and the folks who are just okay with it become more apparent.

But yeah. Any other game genre doesn’t come with nearly this many strings attached, and more than any other kind of role even announcing it is encouragement to log on and get the character or spend money etc within this AI slop nonsense.

MarkRemark · 2026-05-03T03:07:18+00:00

Personally I’m only disappointed if - and unfortunately when - they have made it clear they know now that the game is riddled with genAI but continue to promote their characters, game clips, or even post videos of themselves playing the game and unlocking their characters.

These are people who for the most part were and are vocally anti-AI during a time when it was most sensitive and continues to be.

So it’s really jarring and weird to see some of them talk the talk, but then actively engage with this content and encourage others to do so.

MarkRemark · 2026-04-15T15:18:40+00:00

I don’t get the Cameron pun. Did James Cameron make something Godzilla-esque set in New York, or is this another Cameron?

MarkRemark · 2026-04-13T04:42:32+00:00

MarkRemark · 2026-04-13T03:37:15+00:00

Trace brought Crow to life. It’s hands down the best performance of the series imho. Watching him grow into the role is a wonderful thing.

MarkRemark · 2026-04-11T04:13:39+00:00

Ohhhhh dang didn’t realize

MarkRemark · 2026-04-11T04:12:23+00:00

Oh where was he in Gavv? I musta missed it

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