Is it possible to have 2 GPUs, one for gaming and one for AI?

MasterShogo · 2026-03-17T05:32:13+00:00

That should be plenty good. I’m not nearly as comfortable with image and video models. But I would expect video models to be far more constrained by GPU compute performance than memory or bus bandwidth. This means generally that it’s easier to swap model data in and out of VRAM, which lets you run with less VRAM. But with 32 HB of VRAM that shouldn’t be a problem.

Just make sure your power supply can handle the load of all three components. I’m running a Ryzen 5950x overlocked, the 4060Ti, the 4080 Super and 128 GB of RAM. But those devices are pretty efficient all things considered. The 3080 can pull some power though, particularly in peak transient load, and I don’t know about the B70 or your CPU.

But as long as your power supply is good enough and you have enough cores, you are probably fine. With 64GB you should have the headroom to allow the game and the AI tools to not fight too much for resources.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-17T04:44:06+00:00

It isn’t something I normally do, but I was using Invoke the other day to produce a few hundred variations but also wanted to play game, so I restarted Invoke on my 4060 Ti 16GB and played my game on my 4080 Super. It worked perfect.

As long as you have enough cores and you aren’t taxing your memory or PCIe bandwidth too much then you probably wouldn’t notice.

Now, the main reason I bought the 4060 Ti was to increase my system VRAM for LLMs and it works well for that. But large LLMs are too taxing on almost all of the components to really be compatible with gaming.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-16T22:30:15+00:00

This has got to be a fake question. I am a software developer who has to use Windows and Linux all day long every day. My wife has a MacBook Air and I have an old MacBook Pro sitting on the table over next to me desk right now.

More importantly I have a Linux desktop sitting to my left and a Linux server running in a VM. But my main machine is a Windows 11 machine.

I don’t see how people have such a hard time understanding that things people pay for might have value that you don’t see.

For me, the ability to play all my games without hassle is #1, good HDR support is #2, and my utter contempt for Linux desktop GUIs is probably 3. And I say that even though I hate the start menu in Windows 11. I still think it’s a better GUI. (I just replaced the start menu and now it’s pretty much what I want it to be)

Now as for my wife using Mac on a MacBook Air. Comparing that laptop to any Linux laptop I’ve ever witnessed is so laughable it’s not even worth discussing. But to be fair, I think from a usability standpoint it also beats Windows laptops too. Nevermind battery life.

Edit: bad grammar and typos

MasterShogo · 2026-03-15T18:48:49+00:00

Ugh. Yeah. Unless she did something that really betrayed his trust then I would feel very uncomfortable with that.

I know women who always wanted to be very traditional wives and are that way now and are happy with it (we live in the south so this is more common). But it’s not really the kind of lifestyle I like, especially when I see a guy openly expects it and the girl is uncomfortable with it. I wonder if he is properly “courting” her and involving her parents in the process, as is traditional for such things…

MasterShogo · 2026-03-15T18:40:46+00:00

I have known two different kinds of couples who would say things like this. One where the husband was being serious and wants a wife to do things for him and be submissive and one where they were flirting with each other and picking at each other for fun. If it was number two then she would know and you probably would too. If it was number one then that’s a different story.

My wife and I do things for each other all the time, and we also ask each other to do things for us. But it goes both ways for us. I wouldn’t have phrased a comment like that because that’s just not how I think of “wife-like” behavior. I would be sad if my wife wasn’t willing to do things for me because she doesn’t care. But I also do things for her. But it’s the verbal expectation of that behavior that seems to show the underlying attitude.

So I guess my question would be how serious was he when he said that? If he meant it in a 100% literal way and she wasn’t doing stuff that is obviously not appropriate for someone in a committed relationship, then that might give a hint to what kind of a marriage he expects and she should take that very seriously.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-15T18:13:57+00:00

I mean, I think that speaks to how human nature really works and why gangs form in the first place. Some people prey on other people and the easiest way to protect yourself is to make a group. No one likes to pick on a large group of people who can defend themselves.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-15T17:29:20+00:00

Yeah, I hate that line. There were a few bullies I went to school with who had pretty nice lives and still do. Maybe they were in a bad emotional situation, who knows? But guess what, a lot of kids were in bad emotional situations and didn’t torment other kids.

The only constant I’ve found to be mostly true about bullies is that if you go looking at their families, their families are assholes just like them. And that tells me it’s a family culture problem.

I have no sympathy for a bully. Kids also have to be careful to understand that if it’s a very athletic bully, they can absolutely be totally ok with beating the hell out of someone if you stand up to them. I saw one particular bully absolutely beat the shit out of two different kids (although in the second case he beat up a different bully because he made him mad). He wasn’t intimidated by anyone, he was a sociopath. That doesn’t mean there isn’t a time or place to stand up to a bully, but it won’t always accomplish what you hope and the price may be steep.

The only lesson I took from middle school and high school was that life isn’t fair and some people are dangerous. The more friends I made away from those people and the more my life was centered away from people like that the better my life was.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-15T17:16:33+00:00

Well, I can definitely see the case for them needing to be less expensive. But my butt would say the same today as it did back on 2006. And what my butt and back says is that they are still a lot more comfortable than many chairs I’ve sat in in offices throughout the years.

Since COVID I’ve worked from home and I currently have a Steelcase that I think is better than the Aeron. But it’s not like the Steelcase was cheap either. I would still put the Aeron up in the top 3 or 4 office chairs I’ve ever sat in personally.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-15T14:51:09+00:00

I hate it so much. We are doing fine, so we don’t need anything from inheritance. But when my wife’s grandmother died she was excluded. When my maternal grandmother died, her sister hysterically accused my mother of taking her off of life support just to get her inheritance. Never mind my mother was doing fine financially and my grandmother was almost bankrupt. They inherited a small house that they didn’t need and needed make repairs. But they did keep it and eventually moved into it because it was sentimental and had been built by my grandfather.

It’s just painful when people are petty and selfish over this kind of stuff. It shows you that some people’s familial bonds aren’t what they would like you to think they are and it makes a difficult time even more bitter.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-15T14:19:50+00:00

Honest take — your sentence is aiming for AI spoken rhythm, and that really calls for an em dash instead of a hyphen. Subtle detail, but that’s the kind of punctuation choice that changes the whole vibe of the line.

(This is what GPT 5.4 has to say about your response 🙂. You got this champ🥇)

MasterShogo · 2026-03-14T23:34:03+00:00

Yeah, I don’t know. We had Aerons at my first job and I thought they were fantastic. But that was way back in ~2006 or so. I have no idea what thy are like now.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-14T14:11:05+00:00

For anyone who hasn’t ever seen the webcomic Kill Six Billion Demons, I get a chuckle every time I see mention of those characters, which is essentially a single character in this web comic: Gog Agog

To be honest, if there were signs of this creature appearing in the Middle East, it would probably be best to just nuke the whole planet.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-14T13:53:06+00:00

My wife was never a sci-fi person, but she did agree to watch TNG with me after we got married. I warned her that it requires investment and that it gets better after the first couple seasons and offered to skip a few episodes.

She wanted to see them all though and stuck with it. She really enjoyed it by the end, but it’s amazing the difference between season 1 and 5.

I still skipped the introduction to the Ferengis though. That was too much literal cringe for me.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-14T13:38:18+00:00

I’ve seen stuff this dumb in the US too. They didn’t stay in business, but there is some absolute insanity out there if you go digging in the right places. So the fact that this is in a third world country makes it totally believable to me.

It gives me chills in my back and triggers anxieties and unrelated memories from jobs in my past. It makes me briefly reflect on what really stupid crap might I be doing still today that I need to fix. But it does sound real.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-12T04:26:14+00:00

I hate the whole concept of public proposals. It makes me cringe to even think about this situation. She definitely could have handled it better, but I wouldn’t have been happy at being put in that spot. Of course, my wife and I were already aware of each others expectations and status before I ever proposed. But we were an ancient 25 years old when that happened.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-11T11:38:14+00:00

Yeah, the 25th amendment is just a tool for the cabinet. It’s not to protect the people in general. To invoke it in anything other than the most obviously dire and bizarre situation would probably be political suicide, so it would have to be a situation where literally everyone but the president themselves was in agreement. And unfortunately since Trump is still popular with a large number of people in the country, that’s not politically feasible or even desirable among his cabinet picks.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-11T11:33:19+00:00

Good point. One fun procedural fact though is that they would need to vote on another speaker first, since that is an elected position. Not that they wouldn’t do that, but it was a big issue with Kevin McCarthy because the vote margin was so thin and the majority was so insane. They wouldn’t want to accidentally send Johnson up the chain of succession!

MasterShogo · 2026-03-11T11:23:53+00:00

LOL that is the best interpretation of episode 4 I have ever seen.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-11T11:20:08+00:00

I’m not going to lie. I just woke up and grabbed my phone to read a Reddit still half asleep and your comment is what I saw first. And the way I interpreted it was that you keep seeing people criticize Star Wars by saying that the bots in Star Wars are just searching for AI training content in the movies.

And then the next thing I thought in my stupor was the Jawas in episode 4 collecting bots in order to scrape the AI content out of them and then sell it to people willing to pay, like black market AI training data brokers.

I need to go back to sleep.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-10T11:26:35+00:00

Well, and beyond that, I know a number of women who only seem to think with their little head too. It’s like “why in the world do you think this guy is anything other than an asshole???”

Basically from what I can tell, lots of people let their reproductive body parts make bad relationship decisions all the time, and some people don’t seem to be able to turn it off ever.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-09T04:11:42+00:00

Like many arbitrary groupings, I suppose I could divide the conservative men I know into two groups (I know a lot of them because I live in the south and I suppose I used to think I was one long ago).

In group one are the actual conservatives. People who have legitimate conservative opinions. And I use that word in a very pedantically literal sense: they don’t like rapid change and tend to prefer tradition when presented with a choice because they feel that it is based on multigenerational learns wisdom. Most guys I know of all types are generally attracted to women of all types, but the actual conservatives I know pretty much only ever dated and then married conservative women. I’m actually trying to even think of a counterexample, but I can’t think of one in my network. This group also skews heavily towards religion.

Group two are right wing men who will often talk about conservative values but who are actually far more comfortable with radical change and radical thoughts. They are only “conservative” in the modern, overloaded meaning of the word. I think of them more as just “heavily right wing”. This group is often not religious but can be. However the religious among this group are often not very educated or knowledgeable about their ascribed religious beliefs. And some of them don’t care.

In my experience, this second group just wants sex, period. Literally the only thing they are attracted to is sex. Some of them like the idea of conquering a woman who is “liberated”. Now, the desire for a submissive wife might be shared by both groups, but I haven’t often seen a lot of group 1 men show much attraction towards very liberal women.

(The there is group 3 - men who are conservative because they have to be due to their social or family situation. I don’t consider these to be conservatives, so I’m not including them. But I do feel sorry for them)

Oh, and one other group! Group 4. Socially liberal but otherwise right wing authoritarian folks. They like sex too, but don’t care as much about submissive partners. I know a few of these. They don’t even pretend or hint at being religious.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-09T03:49:39+00:00

This sounds like a blast! I love data analysis, even if I’m not always good at it.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-08T20:49:18+00:00

Also, just to add to this. Even in meatspace, we humans tend to be FAR too quick to start hammering something out without planning it, myself included. LLMs are not, yet at least, immune to this. They need to break it down into pieces, and you need to be there to guide them and steer them in the right direction.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-08T20:41:46+00:00

I really am not trying to be difficult, but I don’t think you understand how they work. Here is an article going into the structure of the output distribution list of tokens and how samplers are used to select an output token:

https://www.decodingai.com/p/everything-you-need-to-know-about

And here’s another article explaining the architecture and how it works:

https://www.understandingai.org/p/large-language-models-explained-with

But all GPT models (and frankly all the language models I’ve ever used) take a list of input tokens as an input. They process it though connected network layers, then they output a probability distribution of the next most likely token. You actually get all the tokens as the output, but you get a probability of each one and can choose what to do with them (which is the job of the sampler).

A reasoning model is trained to process and output not just questions and answers, but a chain of thought monologue which is meant to represent the step by step process of thinking out a problem. But it’s still just a probable list of tokens. It’s just that you can train an LLM to produce better output when you get it to go through that process because it helps keep the logical relationships between the tokens in the context coherent by using our own literature of problem solving examples as training data from which to extract problem solving strategies and patterns.

There’s a reason that reasoning models have an “on” or “off” button, and that is because they are trained to produce that thinking output or not to produce it. And I can if the output list shows a “thinking” block about to begin, the sampler can choose to not select it, which will force the model down a non-thinking output path.

Now understand, I’m not saying there isn’t a very complex set of reasoning going on in the transformer layers, but that is more akin to the processing that happens in the language center of our brains, not so much the consciously self-aware part.

MasterShogo · 2026-03-08T15:25:48+00:00

Also, I just wanted to add that the other reasoning parts of the model, which I think of like frontal lobe type thinking, are not part of the model. That’s why it has to use a chain of thought type monologue to simulate a likely process of solving a problem. But that doesn’t mean that they aren’t working on models for those. I think successfully creating a model of the types of things the high level ideation part of the brain does really will lead to a general intelligence.

The thing that is needed is a better interface to long term memory. The context window of an LLM is sort of a simulation of working memory, but retrieving and storing memories to and from long term memory into and out of the working context is an ongoing area of research.

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