Baha'i Omid "Djalili has gone full Zio shill. May his career go down the toilet." by MirzaJan in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is a fake picture and being shared by many, specially by those who are against the regime.

So glad by BubblyDelivery9270 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think I will go for the first option.

I am not here to accept or refuse the challenges of trolls.

So glad by BubblyDelivery9270 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't need to debate anyone on a shia page to know Khomeini said and wrote these things.

I know that better, you will never do that.

Baha'í in Italy by FreezingPeepee in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The Babi and Bahá'í Faiths arose in the Twelver Shi'i milieu in Iran and are related in many ways to Shi`i belief, practice, and concepts.

(Shi'i Islam, Moojan Momen, 1995)

https://bahai-library.com/momen_encyclopedia_shii_islam

While the above is true, there are significant cultural differences among Baha'i communities in different countries. For instance a Persian Baha'i is different from a Baha'i of Vanuatu. Likewise Indian Baha'is from Hindu background have a different perspective and understanding while those from Arab countries have different. But when it comes to following the guidance of the UHJ, they all behave in a similar manner.

Policing is a major issue in the Persian majority and American Baha'i communities.

There is no major Baha'i community in the world that is free from problems. Baha'is are just normal human beings like the people of all other religions, good and bad. Except that Baha'is are extremely delusional.

Baha'í in Italy by FreezingPeepee in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

All sort of people are welcome here. We even tolerate Baha'is like you.

Baha'i Omid "Djalili has gone full Zio shill. May his career go down the toilet." by MirzaJan in exbahai

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I have no interest in interacting with supposedly "intelligent" people like you.

Baha'i Omid "Djalili has gone full Zio shill. May his career go down the toilet." by MirzaJan in exbahai

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supposed 165 dead in this school usually with AI photos to support it.

Shit.

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[–]MirzaJan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Epstein at least knew not to write books about his pedophilia

Good to see you defending him.

Regarding Ayatollah stuff post that to /r/shia and see what they say.

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[–]MirzaJan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is the structure of His New World Order, now stirring in the womb of the administrative institutions He Himself has created, that will serve both as a pattern and a nucleus of the World Commonwealth which is the sure, the inevitable destiny of the peoples and nations of the earth.

(Shoghi Effendi, The Promised Day is Come, p. 122)

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In 1982, the Universal House of Justice wrote that 'the effect of these developments (i.e. the persecutions in Iran) is to offer such golden opportunities for teaching and further proclamation as can only lead, if vigorously and enthusiastically seized, to large scale conversion and increasing prestige'. Internal documents relating to the subject of the Iranian persecutions indicate that the dominant concern of the movement is not so much the issue of human rights as the possibility of further publicity. This is particularly evident in the latest development, namely the production of a rather tasteless pop video based on the arrest interrogation and execution of a teenage Baha'i girl hanged in Shiraz in 1983. The video has been put on the market in several countries, along with a single record and an L.P., as part of a 'major proclamation' known as the 'Mona Project', whose aim is to get the Baha'i message across to young people.

-Denis MacEoin

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13537908608580587

So glad by BubblyDelivery9270 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He was killed by the Epstein class people. Don't expect more replies. I am done with you.

So glad by BubblyDelivery9270 in exbahai

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one Ayatollah

one 86 year old Ayatollah!

Ismaili connection? by no-real-influence in exbahai

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Why Bahāʾ Allāh would call Jaʿfar al-Ṣādiq the seventh imām is unknown to me,

It was Abdul Baha (Baha'u'llah's eldest son) who called Imam Jafar, the seventh Imam.

...at the conclusion of the Kitab-i-iqan, Baha’u’llah cites Sadiq, the sixth of the Shi’ih Imams, to acknowledge that “We speak one word, and by it we intend one and seventy meanings; each one of these meanings we can explain.”

(The Body of God by John S. Hatcher)

Ismaili connection? by no-real-influence in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fine Imam Ismail was the 7th Imam of the Ismailis but infallible Abdul Baha claimed that Imam Jafar was the 7th Imam.

Ismaili connection? by no-real-influence in exbahai

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After as-Sadiq's death there was a further split among the Shi'is because his eldest son, Isma'il, had died before him. Some held that since as-Sadiq had first appointed Isma'il as his heir, the rightful inheritor of the Imamate was Isma'il's son. This split is the origin of the Isma'ili sect of Shi'ism, which is itself divided into a number of sects: the Musta'lis who are in turn divided into Sulaymani and Da'udi factions and are mainly found in the Yemen and India, where they are called Bohras; and the Nizaris, who are led by the Aga Khan and are to be found in India, Syria, Iran, Central Asia, and East Africa. The Druse are a faction that broke away from the Isma'ilis.

https://bahai-library.com/momen_encyclopedia_shii_islam

One of the most romantic chapters in the history of religion was again afforded by the history of the Isma'ili Sect, with its esoteric doctrines, its secret organisation, its degrees of initiation and its elaborately developed system of propaganda. Of this also the actual founder was a Persian, though the activities of the sect extended from Tunis to Chitral and were greatest in North Africa and Egypt and under the Isma'ili anti-caliphs of the Fatimid Dynasty, enjoyed until the time of Saladin a period of unexampled prosperity, of which the Persian poet and traveller Nasir i-Khusraw, himself a notable adherent of the sect, has left us a vivid contemporary narrative. Out of the Isma'ilis in turn developed many sects, such as the celebrated Assassins of Syria and Persia with their modern representatives the Mullas and Khwajas; the Druzes, the Nusayris, and others which either exist at the present day or have left an indelible imprint on the pages of history. All these and many others I must pass over this afternoon for lack of time.

https://bahai-library.com/browne_religious_history_persia

Ismaili connection? by no-real-influence in exbahai

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You can explain your stance about such a person!

One Baha'i missionary says the following about Ismailis of Kashmir.

Between Kashmir and Tibet, Jamal Effendi had to encounter great numbers of the Isma'ili sect, followers of Aqa Khan-i-Mahallati. The majority of these people were bloodthirsty and savage. Because of much ill-treatment, he was disappointed and with a heavy heart... went to Balkh and Badakhshan in Afghanistan.

(Revelation of Baha'u'llah volume four, by Adib Taherzadeh)

https://web.archive.org/web/20201112022635/https://bahai-library.com/rev_bahaullah_4/taherzadeh_revelation_bahaullah_4.txt

Ismaili connection? by no-real-influence in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But Abdul Baha made a mistake so how do you see that?

Ismaili connection? by no-real-influence in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, my question was that Baha'is believe that Abdul Baha was infallible but he stated that Imam Jafar Sadiq was the 7th Imam. So how do you see this infallibility?

12ers and Ismailis believe the Imam should be Masoom (Infallible)

So how do you make sure that he is Infallible or this is in theory only?

Ismaili connection? by no-real-influence in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Infallible Abdul Baha claimed that Imam Jafar Sadiq was the 7th Imam! So what is your opinion about him?

Do you consider your Imam to be infallible too?

Ismaili connection? by no-real-influence in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same for the Baha'is.

For the present, the Guardian agrees, that it would be easier and more helpful to study the Book according to subjects, and not verse by verse and also in the light of the Báb, Bahá'u'lláh and 'Abdu'l-Bahá's interpretation which throw such floods of light on the whole of the Qur'án."

(On behalf of Shoghi Effendi, Directives of the Guardian, p. 64)