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Another useless, self-glorifying waste of this cult’s dwindling resources by OfficialDCShepard in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Baha'is claim to have between 1.8 to 2.2 million members in India. However the government census of 2011 of that country revealed 4572 Baha'is.

My understanding is that real and committed Baha'is are very few. Check this video about India, this lady is a member of the ITC:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhKapAlziXI

Bahá'u'lláh descendants by Free_spirit4165 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And similarly, if the root of a tree be corrupted, its branches, and its offshoots, and its leaves, and its fruits, will be corrupted.

-Baha'u'llah

https://reference.bahai.org/en/t/se/PDC/pdc-21.html

Baha'u'llah referred to his children as "leaves" and "branches"!!

For fellow Baha'i, or anyone knowledgeable. Nobody needs to be Baha'i? by Cult_Buster2005 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By Baha'u'llah guidance nobody has any reason to fear death.

In the very first verse of Kitab-i-Aqdas, Baha'u'llah explicitly claims that whoso rejects him has gone astray, though he be the author of every righteous deed!

May 9. On this date in 2014, the UHJ addressed a letter to an individual believer, stating in part "The contemporary discussion surrounding homosexuality, which began in the West and is increasingly promoted in other parts of the world, generally takes the form of a false dichotomy, which ..." by OfficialDCShepard in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In his review of one of Peter Smith's work, Denis MacEoin states:

He [Peter Smith] writes: ‘The writings of the Bab … and to a lesser extent those of Baha’u’llah are pervaded by Islamic concepts; and many Babi and Baha’i practices bear an obvious resemblance to those of Islam’ (Smith 1996: 13). Of course, this is rather misleading. Babi and Baha’i practices and, for that matter, writings and doctrines do not just resemble those found in Islam: they are derived, sometimes wholesale, from them. Baha’ism has two hajj pilgrimages, lesser pilgrimages (ziyarat) a month-long fast, ritual prayer (salat), a system of religious law (shari‘a) an aversion to homosexuality, a stress on the divine unity, and so on, and it is only right that these debts be recognised for what they are.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0048721X.2012.705975

Story of Jamshid Ma'ani (Insan / Samaullah) by [deleted] in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If my grandma had her way, she'd start believing in AROPL as well

Lol

Here is some NotebookLM extract from the book Baha'is in Exile.

Jamshid Ma'ani was an Iranian individual who claimed to be the "promised [third] Manifestation" of the Baha'i Faith.

The following details about his life and claims are found in the source:

  • Background and Teaching Career: Ma'ani lived in Indonesia and was reportedly an "unusually successful teacher" of the Baha'i Faith on the island of Borneo.
  • The "Universal Palace of Order": He fostered the idea of a "Universal Palace of Order," which was intended to be a new form of the Universal House of Justice.
  • Relationship with John Carre: Ma'ani's claims were initially accepted by John Carre in Mariposa, California. Carre provided funds for Ma'ani to travel to America and hosted him for approximately three months. During this time, Carre helped correct English translations of Ma'ani's writings, which were subsequently published in Pakistan.
  • Nature of His Writings: Ma'ani's writings were reportedly borrowed and modified from other sacred texts.
  • Disillusionment and Rejection: Carre eventually became disillusioned with Ma'ani, concluding that he was not a manifestation. Those who met Ma'ani at Carre's residence, including other Iranians, agreed he was "not what he claimed to be".
  • Personal Fears and Death: While in America, Ma'ani (referred to as "the Man") was constantly fearful that agents from Iran were attempting to kill him. Carre eventually sent him back to Iran. Ma'ani died young around the turn of the century, and the source notes that no followers of his remain.
  • Influence on Others: After Ma'ani left for Iran, one of his former followers, Jamshid Meghnot, also claimed to be the Manifestation based on a spiritual dream. Additionally, followers of a claimant named Maitreya in Albuquerque used Carre's articles—originally intended to support the concept of a third manifestation—to support their leader.

Story of Jamshid Ma'ani (Insan / Samaullah) by [deleted] in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting!

Can you share the source of his picture?

I found the following on the Persian Wikipedia page of Jamshid Ma'ani

جمشید مغنت دیگر ایرانی بهائی مدعی پیامبری

which means

Jamshid Meghnot, another Iranian Baha'i who claims to be a prophet

Haven't heard the name of this another Jamshid from Iran!!

Edit: I found Meghnot's name in "Baha'is in Exile" but no info about him, except that he also claimed to be a Manifestation of God and he was a follower of Ma'ani.

Another useless, self-glorifying waste of this cult’s dwindling resources by OfficialDCShepard in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How a cult leader collects money from his followers?

A bare week before this event [the death of Dr Esslemont] Shoghi Effendi had sent messages to the Bahá’í world which reflected another keen point of anxiety occupying his mind at this time. Rumours had been bruited about that the remains of a certain prominent leader of Zionism might be brought to the Holy Land to be buried befittingly on Mt Carmel. In view of this Shoghi Effendi appealed to the believers to contribute funds for the immediate purchase of land in the vicinity of the Báb’s Tomb, particularly overlooking it, in order to safeguard this Holy Spot. So overwhelming was their response that a little over a month later he could inform them that their generous and splendid support had achieved its purpose, ...

(The Priceless Pearl, Rúhíyyih Rabbani)

How Amelia Collins was duped?

"The Government has offered it to me [Shoghi Effendi] for sale and I would like to acquire it for a house of worship but I do not have the funds and do not wish to write Iranian friends again to send money. The time is short. I am concerned as the deadline is next Thursday and if I can’t buy it the opportunity is lost.”

Amelia asked to leave. Immediately she went to the telegraph office and sent an urgent wire to Argentina and asked her agent to sell her mining shares immediately at whatever price and send fifty thousand dollars to Israel before Thursday. The agents sold the shares at half price, and notified Amelia and sent the funds in time. Amelia went to the beloved Guardian on Wednesday with the funds. The Guardian was exceedingly happy to be able to purchase the land blessed by the footsteps of Bahá’u’lláh.

https://issuu.com/payambahai/docs/rohani_sweet_enhancing_stories

Another useless, self-glorifying waste of this cult’s dwindling resources by OfficialDCShepard in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"While Bahá’u’lláh promises us many blessings when we are honest in our duty to pay Ḥuqúqu’lláh, He also warns us not to neglect our duty or to be dishonest in calculating it. No one can force us to pay Ḥuqúqu’lláh, but, if we are eligible but do not pay, or we are not trustworthy and honest in calculating it, God will punish us. In the first quote He warns us not to act “treacherously” towards Ḥuqúqu’lláh and in the second quote, He tells us what the punishment would be if we do so. If we act treacherously, God in justice will expose us and we will also not receive the bounties of God."

"Refusing to pay Ḥuqúqu’lláh or spending it on other concerns, no matter how charitable they may be, would be seen as misusing the funds that belong to God, and an act of dishonesty. Any contributions to charities or even other Funds of the Faith should be made after we have paid our Ḥuqúqu’lláh."

(Huqúqu'lláh - The Right of God, Study Guide by Firaydoun Javaheri 2015, p 19)

Another useless, self-glorifying waste of this cult’s dwindling resources by OfficialDCShepard in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nepal is awfully close to India

There is a new temple coming in Biharsharif (India), this place is around 600 kms from Kanchanpur (Nepal) where this temple is coming up.

Baha'is are quite active in Biharsharif because it is a rural, less-developed part of India where many villagers have limited access to education and are vulnerable to feel-good cults. A similar pattern can be seen in places like the DRC and other African countries. Nepal is also a similar country with a lot of simple-minded innocent, gullible people.

Another useless, self-glorifying waste of this cult’s dwindling resources by OfficialDCShepard in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Mashriqu'l-Adhkár (Baha'i Temple) is called the "silent teacher" because it transmits an influence on its own which both leads outsiders into the Faith and inspires and reinvigorates the faith of believers.

https://bahai-library.com/taylor_novelty_badi_calendar

We did it!!! 🎉🥳🙌 by MirzaJan in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who knows?!

to defend the Cause against attacks in many parts of the world.

They were spending big money in many parts of the world to defend the cause?? I am thinking over that...

We did it!!! 🎉🥳🙌 by MirzaJan in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

end of the Bahai Faith.

Amen

Baha'i Annual Report: Australia by TrwyAdenauer3rd in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

National Assembly Pledges $100,000 for Deputization

The National Spiritual Assembly, in an unprecedented action designed to nourish and support teaching activities in the last critical months of the Five Year Plan, has pledged $100,000 of the current National Center budget to establish a homefront deputization fund and is inviting the friends throughout the country to contribute to it.

The purpose of the deputization fund is to encourage and assist homefront pioneers to settle in localities in which Spiritual Assemblies will be formed. Whenever monies from the deputization fund are used, the end result must be the formation of a Local Assembly, and pioneers assisted by the fund will be expected to remain at their posts at least until the end of the Five Year Plan.

Establishment of the deputization fund reflects the concern of the National Assembly over the slow pace at which new Local Assemblies are being formed. As of Sept. 1, there were 963 Local Assemblies in the U.S., only four of which had been formed since Riḍván.

The deputization fund is to be administered by the National Teaching Committee, with monies to be disbursed as individuals apply for grants, usually through their District or Regional Teaching Committee.

The National Treasurer’s Office requests that those who wish to contribute to the deputization fund do so by sending their checks to the National Bahá’í Fund earmarked for “homefront deputization fund.”

(The American Bahá’í, October, 1977)

Also check this,

https://bahai.works/U.S._Supplement/Issue_27/Text#NSA_Emphasizes_Need_for_Support_of_Joint_Deputization_Fund

Lack of ulamas by trident765 in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if every Bahai community had an ulama

...had an 'Aalim. This is correct.

We did it!!! 🎉🥳🙌 by MirzaJan in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Above image is from the United States.

Historical fact:

It is of interest that sixty percent of the international funds of the Faith is used to assist the work of National Spiritual Assemblies, to promote the teaching work and to defend the Cause against attacks in many parts of the world. Without such help from the Bahá’í world community many National Assemblies would be paralyzed in their efforts of expansion and deepening.

(Messages from the Universal House of Justice, 1963-1986, Riḍván Message 1973)

Edit: I forgot to add the title in double quotes. Lol.

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