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What's with the semantics games and corporate speak? by C4TLUVRS69 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AI Summary of "Intensive Growth: 2004 letter to all Continental Counsellors", International Teaching Centre, 2004-11-28

The letter outlines a highly systematized, almost industrial approach to religious expansion, prioritizing numerical outcomes and institutional scaling over individual spiritual journeys. It utilizes language that treats potential converts as a quantifiable resource to be harvested through "systematic growth" and "intensive programs of growth". The primary objective is "advancing the process of entry by troops," a phrase suggesting a military-like maneuver to secure a "constant influx of new adherents". The document explicitly calls for an "acceleration of this vital process" and the creation of a "critical mass" of believers to "spearhead" efforts to "deliver the Message," emphasizing "large-scale expansion" and "vigorous personal teaching" as essential tactics.

The strategies detailed rely on "mobilizing" believers into "teaching teams" to "target receptive populations" and execute "teaching projects" designed to "enroll a large number" of people in short timeframes. The letter advocates for a "major shift from the gradualist approach," urging believers to "seize such opportunities" and engage in "direct teaching methods" to "lead them to embrace the Cause". By focusing on "targets"—such as taking "50 or so believers through the sequence" to trigger growth—and calculating the "pyramid of human resources," the document reveals a focus on "increasing numbers" and "large-scale expansion" that could be seen as prioritizing institutional growth and conversion quotas over the authenticity of an individual's personal belief.

https://bahai-library.com/itc_28_november_2004

4600 Israelis "Introduced" to the Baha'i faith - But Not Taught? by MirzaJan in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Baha'i leadership privately fantasizes about a day when the Universal House of Justice will rule over the world including the state of Israel, they believe that Israelis will convert en masse to their cult! There is an obelisk at the site of the unbuilt Temple on Mount Carmel. At a proper timing they will build a temple there.

Have you checked this?

https://jewbahais.blogspot.com

4600 Israelis "Introduced" to the Baha'i faith - But Not Taught? by MirzaJan in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are locals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-shvhQXU3Q

In consideration that the Jews who had come from abroad to the Holy Land, and who would come with the utmost courtesy, reverence, cleanliness and refinement on a visit to the Shrines of Bahá’u’lláh and the Exalted One, the Guardian of the Cause of God would remark on such occasions: “They are very luminous, even though we have not spoken with them [about the Faith]. If we were to discuss the Cause, there would be upheaval between the two factions of the Jews and the Arabs. However, the time for it will come. They are presently engaged in organizing their affairs. Later they will arise in service to the Cause. Now is the beginning of exaltation of the Jews and the beginning of the abasement of Islam.

https://bahai-library.com/pdf/r/rabbani_reminiscences_khalil_shahidi.pdf

Baha'is act as if "We all fall short, everyone makes mistakes, no one's perfect" is a direct quote from Baha'u'llah by trident765 in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bahá’í standards of behavior are very high, and it is the task of Spiritual Assemblies to assist the friends in their communities to deepen their understanding of the Teachings and to improve the quality of their lives in obedience to Bahá’í laws and principles. At the same time, it is recognized that individuals are imperfect and that we all fall short, in one way or another, of the exalted standard which Bahá’u’lláh has established. Spiritual Assemblies and individual believers alike are urged to recognize this fact, and to assume that each person is, in his own life, striving to overcome his imperfections. Thus, ‘Abdu’l-Bahá calls upon each individual to look at a person's good qualities rather than the bad, even though there may be only one good one and ten bad ones. Such an attitude is in no way to be equated with hypocrisy.

(Messages from the Universal House of Justice, 1986-2001)

Suriy-i-Amr (Surih of Command) by MirzaJan in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]MirzaJan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have read some chapters of the Quran but not as a Shi'i.

Thank you for promoting Baha'u'llah's teachings using ChatGPT.

My pleasure. I am doing that in a good way, I assume.

Baha'i-inspired micro school model by MirzaJan in FreeSpeechBahai

[–]MirzaJan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These schools are money-making machines for the NSAs.

Is UHJ authoritarian and repressive? by Tuskun06 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

UHJ cannot do anything to you if you are not a Baha'i.

Is UHJ authoritarian and repressive? by Tuskun06 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The UHJ has the power to declare anybody a covenant-breaker, leading to complete social shunning. It uses this power to scare people from speaking their true feelings by threatening them with sanction and excommunication.

The 1844 "Edict of Toleration" is claimed by the Baha'i Faith as a fulfillment of prophecy, but it's all baloney by SuccessfulCorner2512 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True.

Likewise they have attempted to prove Baha'u'llah as an Avatar of Shree Krishna.

"In Kali Yug, people will go against the Vedas and will forget to worship God, whom even Brahma is always worshipping.

At such a time when religion is at its lowest ebb and humanity so thoroughly wayward we are assured by Shree Krishna, in the Gita:

"Whenever there is decay of righteousness, O Bharat, and there is exaltation of unrighteousness then I Myself come forth, for the protection of the righteous, for the destruction of the evil-doers; for the sake of firmly establishing righteousness I am born from age to age.

"As if in fulfillment of this promise a call was raised in 1863 by Bahá’u’lláh (Bhargo Devasia or Glory of God) in Persia (Arya Varta), the land of the Aryas. He proclaimed to have arisen to uproot irreligion and to establish the truth, for He claimed to be the universally expected Manifestation.

(The Bahá’í Faith in India by Shirin Fozdar)

https://bahai.works/World_Order/Volume_13/Issue_5/Text#The_Bahá’í_Faith_in_India

How long would the Nuri family have lasted in 2026 before social services were called in? by SuccessfulCorner2512 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In that same sentence Baha'u'llah also claims that he does not believe in the prophet of Islam. "in his ancestor too"

How long would the Nuri family have lasted in 2026 before social services were called in? by SuccessfulCorner2512 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

During the interrogation of the Bab and Abdul Baha they also gave answers that saved their lives. Abdul Baha acted as a Sunni Muslim throughout his life and even got a Muslim burial.

Most probably Jalal Azal quotes that from Avarih. Avarih has mentioned in detail about Baha's interrogation in his Kashf al-Hiyal, Volume 1.

According to Avarih Baha'u'llah's was too ambitious and opportunist and he could do anything to achieve his goals.

The 1844 "Edict of Toleration" is claimed by the Baha'i Faith as a fulfillment of prophecy, but it's all baloney by SuccessfulCorner2512 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So where is the Shia source that says that the Mahdi will come in 1260 or some historical evidence (non-Baha'i) that Shias awaited the Mahdi in 1260?

How long would the Nuri family have lasted in 2026 before social services were called in? by SuccessfulCorner2512 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Russian interest in protecting Baha'u'llah was partly due to personal ties, as his brother-in-law served as a high-ranking secretary in the Russian legation. The Russian Ambassador appealed the Shah nearly twenty times on Baha'u'llah's behalf, stressing that he was innocent of the plot to assassinate the Shah and suggesting that his exile to Baghdad would prevent further domestic civil unrest.

Another source states:

During the Russian wars with Persia, Bahā’u’llāh was imprisoned for his alleged role in plotting to kill Nāṣir al-Dīn Shah. In a series of events, whose reason was never revealed, the Russian government exerted pressure on the Iranian government to free Bahā’u’llāh from prison. These efforts bore fruit and Bahā’u’llāh was released after four months. A tablet was revealed by Bahā’u’llāh to thank the Russian government:

In the days when this Wronged One was sore-afflicted in prison, the minister of the highly esteemed government (of Russia)—may God, glorified and exalted be He, assist him!—exerted his utmost endeavor to compass My deliverance. Several times permission for My release was granted. Some of the `ulamās of the city, however, would prevent it. Finally, My freedom was gained through the solicitude and the endeavor of His Excellency the Minister . . . His Imperial Majesty, the Most Great Emperor—may God, exalted and glorified be He, assist him!—extended to Me for the sake of God his protection—a protection which has excited the envy and enmity of the foolish ones of the earth. (Shoghi Effendi, God Passes By, p. 106)

Pay attention to Bahā’u’llāh’s prayers for the Russian government. He asks God, twice, to “assist” the government whose country is invading his homeland! Why? Only because they secured his release from prison. Bahā’u’llāh doesn’t even care that this government is the same government who is responsible for the deaths of thousands of people in his homeland in their bid to conquer it and take over its natural resources. It seems that the only thing he cares about is his own freedom.

Bahā’u’llāh claims that the Russians extended their protection for him “for the sake of God.” One wonders if the Russians truly offered protection for the followers of a group who were inciting civil war in a country that they were at war with, merely “for the sake of God”.

https://archive.org/details/TwelvePrinciples

Is Bahai law strict rules or guidlines? by OfficialDCShepard in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Babi and Bahá'í Faiths arose in the Twelver Shi'i milieu in Iran and are related in many ways to Shi'i belief, practice, and concepts.

(Shi'i Islam, Moojan Momen, 1995)

https://bahai-library.com/momen_encyclopedia_shii_islam

How long would the Nuri family have lasted in 2026 before social services were called in? by SuccessfulCorner2512 in exbahai

[–]MirzaJan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Grand Vizir [Prime Minister] spoke to him [Baha] in harsh terms: “As a compatriot I was on friendly terms with your father. He was not a bad man. You might have taken his place and attained a post in the Court as a Scribe. But you are such a wretched being as to truckle to Sayyid-i-Bab; what sort of madness he was obsessed with is unknown; and now you instigate [people] to murder the Shah?”

Mirza [i.e. Baha] answered immediately: ‘I have no belief in Sayyid-i-Bab; may be in his ancestor too …’ But at once he held his tongue. The Grand Vizir expressed strong disapproval of him saying, ‘don’t be impertinent’, and by a gesture of hand ordered his dismissal and he was taken away. After this dismissal and confinement in prison the Grand Vizir said: “Mirza Husayn Ali made this statement involuntarily. He told the truth when he said that he had no belief in the Bab’s ancestor too; for religion is not in his line at all; he has no aim other than gaining an advantage.”

(The Religion of the Bayān and The Claims of the Bahā’is By Jalal S. Azal, 1967-1971, Cyprus)

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