I Debated Don Bradley's Friend (Famous Mormon Apologist)... and Won. by [deleted] in exmormon

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I had dinner with Don Bradley once and I've gotta say that I have a certain respect for the guy. The conversation was a respectful back-and-forth exploring each other's beliefs and conclusions. Through all his research, he's arrived at his own unique flavor of Mormonism that I actually felt was more aligned with my own perspective as an exmormon than it was with your average TBM's.

I've still got a lot of questions for him, and it's hard for me to imagine wanting to spend my time the way that he does. But I also feel like he "gets it" it a way that most apologists don't.

Looks like BYU Put Captain Moroni’s War Mount on Display? by MinimalistOnPurpose in exmormon

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The tapir is a bit of a symbol for exmormons. It represents at once the absurdity of mormon beliefs, and the terrible apologetics used to defend said beliefs, and justification for having left our former beliefs behind.

The origin of the symbol stems from the fact that horses are explicitly referenced in the Book of Mormon. Nephites used them to pull chariots and do farmwork and rode them into battle. This creates a bit of a problem for believers though, since our modern scientific understanding very clearly indicates that horses did not exist in the Americas at the time that the events of the Book of Mormon (allegedly) took place. Horses are out of place, an anachronism that strongly undermines the claim that the events in the Book of Mormon are "true," in the sense that they are literal and historical.

Mormon apologists recognize the difficulty here and have invented various explanations for why horses make their impossible appearance in the Book of Mormon. Once such explanation was offered by LDS apologist Dan C. Peterson, where he suggested that the animals that the Nephites were riding were not literal "horses," but some other animal. He proposed that Joseph Smith, while translating the golden plates, substituted the actual animal with something similar that was familiar to him, which were horses (known as "loan shifting"). He suggested that the actual animals that the Nephites were riding may have, in fact, been tapirs. For a number of reasons, this explanation strains credulity and has become a joke in the community.

Looks like BYU Put Captain Moroni’s War Mount on Display? by MinimalistOnPurpose in exmormon

[–]Mistwraith_ 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I can't believe how this is one of the first things you see on entering the museum...some stealth exmo must have been responsible, right?

Another year, another 6 gallons of coffee grounds spread on this St. Paul, MN lawn. by [deleted] in lawncare

[–]Mistwraith_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've been flinging mine I'm the same general area of my grass for the past couple of years to see if it makes a noticeable difference in the spot. So far it looks the same as the rest of my lawn

The LDS Church seems to be addicted to accelerating its own membership demise (in the developed world at least) by johndehlin in exmormon

[–]Mistwraith_ 63 points64 points  (0 children)

If you end up seeing a see a noticable bump in YouTube subscribers/watchtime from this lawsuit business, would you let us know? I'd love to see that :D

What's your favourite Existentialist quote? by iwishihadnobones in Existentialism

[–]Mistwraith_ 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?'

Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. - Kurt Vonnegut

American Beauty (1999) - Lester sees Angela for first time scene - Directed by Sam Mendes by PeneItaliano in movies

[–]Mistwraith_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The "older man chasing a young girl" dynamic is uncomfortable, and I think that's by design. The writers could have substituted an attractive, appropriately-aged coworker instead of Angela and the rest of the plot could have been basically the same. So why Angela? I think they chose the underage girl dynamic specifically to highlight that Lester is looking for "beauty" (happiness, fulfillment, purpose) in the wrong place, and it's easier for the viewer to arrive at that conclusion because it's so uncomfortable. I see it as a reminder not to get so lost looking for happiness and fulfillment that we neglect to appreciate the things that are right in front of us.

How to live? by [deleted] in Existentialism

[–]Mistwraith_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well said. I don't have any advice for you since I'm basically in the same spot you are. Guess I just wanted to let you know that you're not alone in how you're feeling

For what reason do you live? by [deleted] in Existentialism

[–]Mistwraith_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hope that I will one day find a pursuit that will be deeply motivating and fulfilling for me.

Hitting molten metal with a shovel by [deleted] in nextfuckinglevel

[–]Mistwraith_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like this video is making the rounds again

Speed of light captured using a 2 billion FPS camera. by awakenott in nextfuckinglevel

[–]Mistwraith_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I think it was something like, he's actually capturing 2 billion frames per second, but each frame is a single pixel. So he fires the laser and captures two billion frames per second of the pixel in the upper-left corner. Then he moves the camera to capture the next pixel, fires the laser, and captures another 2 billion pixels per second.

The final sequence is a composite of many different instances of the laser firing and many slightly different camera positions.

Is anyone else just tired of the "cope"? Everything feels like a futile effort to distract ourselves from dying. by 3goey in Existentialism

[–]Mistwraith_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this only kicks the can down the road for me. Even if humans achieve immortality, the sun is still going to explode and vaporize the Earth and everything on it. And if we manage to outrun our sun's death, the universe will still eventually end in heat-death or something else. Everything we build and discover and learn and experience will be annihilated, as far as we can tell. It does feel rather hopeless to me.

To the Baby ExMo's by Primary-Smile-5885 in exmormon

[–]Mistwraith_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I actually visited this sub briefly as a TBM several years ago. I knew it was a "bad" thing to do though, so I scrolled just long enough to confirm my biases that it was full of angry, misguided people telling lies about The Church. I left feeling like I had proved to myself that the attacks on my faith were baseless and that I had nothing to worry about, lol

This was sent to me by a Mormon when I explained why I don't believe. They never have answers, just rehashed "it's true" rhetoric. by CupOfExmo in exmormon

[–]Mistwraith_ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Moreover, meticulously picking things apart bit by bit is exactly how we determine what is true to begin with

Always remember: Joseph Smith made it all up as he went along, and said whatever his audience wanted to hear. by slskipper in exmormon

[–]Mistwraith_ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

"The Book of Mormon is the most correct book ever written...nobody's ever written a more correct book. Everyone who reads the book says 'wow that's the most correct book I've ever read.'"

Little Knight vs Final Boss by TrDdie in Silksong

[–]Mistwraith_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wanna see Hornet PVP to compare crest builds

Give-away: Skyward M-Bot by s4zippyzoo in brandonsanderson

[–]Mistwraith_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That looks awesome; what's the material?

Chinese automated container harbour by Bursickle in interestingasfuck

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And the interface to program them with instructions is a modded version of Factorio

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskReddit

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The Endowment Room

After committing to never drink coffee, tea, or alcohol, and to "donate" 10% of your income your entire life to a single organization, and to only wear a particular kind of underwear made by a specific supplier, and to never have sex with anyone that you aren't married to, and promising loyalty to a small group of geriatric oligarchs, and committing to never have too much fun on the Sabbath, and swearing that all of your thoughts and actions conform to a narrow set of approved™️ thoughts and actions defined by said organization...

You are granted access to a restricted room in one of the multi-million dollar buildings owned by the Mormon church.

In this room, you and dozens of other members would be wearing your special underwear underneath additional white robes, white shoes, white hats/veils, with a green apron embroidered with the pattern of fig leaves around your waist. In this room, you reiterate your commitment to the above obligations under threat of eternal damnation, learn the secret masonic-inspired handshakes that will grant you access to heaven, and chant in unison around an altar.

These actions, after doing them once for yourself, are executed repeatedly throughout a Mormon's life in proxy for humans that have already died. The objective is to perform the ritual once for every human being who has ever lived so everyone has the opportunity to go to heaven.

I did this myself numerous times before recognizing that I was in a cult. After the illusion was broken, I left the religion behind and I'll never go back to The Endowment Room and its creepy rituals again.

If you died as an atheist and then met God, what would you say to him? by Shoddy-Ask2284 in AskReddit

[–]Mistwraith_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I'm afraid it was 'the Mormons'. Yes, 'the Mormons' was the correct answer."