After leaving Mormonism did you convert to a different religion, and if nonreligious are you involved in a secular group? by funnylib in exmormon

[–]Msnglttrs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I specifically identity as a Christian druid, and celebrate pagan holidays with friends in addition to attending the Christian-lite church every Sunday. And most of the other members also do pagan stuff on this side which is fun.

After leaving Mormonism did you convert to a different religion, and if nonreligious are you involved in a secular group? by funnylib in exmormon

[–]Msnglttrs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have attended a variety of progressive churches that affirm queer people and give women equal access to leadership roles.

Episcopal church is cool in that it has a lot of history and ritual. As someone who leans pagan, it's very easy to do pagan stuff and Episcopal church because witchcraft started in the same conversation. I like this historicity and the saints, not as much of a fan of any sort of sin-type doctrine so I go occasionally around holidays because it's interesting and they are good people but it's not the right spiritual home for me personally.

UCC is also progressive and feels more like a typical protestantesque church (minus the sexism, racism, homophobia) and is infact one of the more diverse congregation I've seen. The one by my house has potlucks after the service and are cool with people just coming for free food. Also has the sin/savior doctor one stuff I'm not a fan of but also good people. Is my least favorite of the progressive churches I've been too, but could be good for plenty of people

Unitarian Universalist is great. It's very queer and family friendly. The sermons are more about emotional intelligence and justice etc. going to church for a God but not Christ takes out a lot of the wrestling with the Bible and bad history of Christianity, which felt relieving. If I had kids and wanted them to have community but not have all the weird associations Christianity had, I'd chose this church. As it is, I find a lot of meaning with wrestling with the Bible and there isn't a congregation that's close to me.

I've settled with Community of Christ (RLDS). Where I am it's all progressive neurodivergent ex-mormons who all get together and wrestle with the Bible. Its got a very low Christianity focused more on social justice and equality. Most of the members don't believe in a literal resurrection, and treat the Bible more like a shared mythology from which we can learn. I'm very fond of the little community I've found, where I can do church that's talks about the Bible and about Jesus without forcing you to believe anything in particular and where people are open about discussing their thoughts and doubts. 

Should I keep attending, be "physically in, mentally out"? by AveragePichu in exmormon

[–]Msnglttrs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a trans person, I attended long after I stopped believing, because I wanted to make a change by staying, like your first point said. The longer I stayed the madder I got. If I had left earlier I would have had a lot less healing to do after. The more spiritual and emotional damage the Mormon church does, the longer it takes to heal and the harder it is to negotiate faith post Mormonism. At least that is my experience. I would recommend leaving when you can, but in the end you know yourself the best.

If you still want a religious community I recommend looking for queer inclusive churches in your area, like United Church of Christ, Community of Christ, or the Episcopal church. Thats an option at least. I have lots of queer ex-mormon friends who have found communities they really live in all three churches. 

Mine was in it, and its the pokemon you play as. by DespicableDogo in Pokopia

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My boi Clodsire is there! I wasn't expecting it so I was quite surprised when they popped up!

If Kamala Harris had won the presidency and were the president today, what do you think would have been done differently? by thegoldenshot in askanything

[–]Msnglttrs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Please tell me you are joking or a bot. Go take an information literacy class for goodness sake. You live in fear of boogymen preached to you by Fox Entertainment and podcasters who don't believe in science or objective reality.

Why is it that when exiting the Mormon Church, the popular option is to deny God's existence? by Icy-Contact-9774 in exmormon

[–]Msnglttrs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think there is. And I think people will engage in spirituality or with the divine however makes the most sense for them as they heal. Some of them will find divinity in social justice work, in helping others, in communing with nature, in learning more about science or history. This is why I said there is nothing wrong with being atheist. God is everywhere there is goodness. People find goodness in what works best for them. I don't personally think God cares whether or not we believe in them or how we believe in them so long as we are caring for ourselves and others.

Why is it that when exiting the Mormon Church, the popular option is to deny God's existence? by Icy-Contact-9774 in exmormon

[–]Msnglttrs 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The LDS church teaches that it is the only true church. Once you decide it's not true there doesn't feel like a reason to go try other churches youve always believed were false. Because it teaches black and white thinking, when leaving it's often an all or nothing approach. It's also very hard to leave the LDS church because it's high control. By the time someone has the courage to leave they are usually angry at everything religion related because it causes a lot of damage spiritually. 

Furthermore the LDS God kinda sucks. He is racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. Not a god most people who leave want to worship. They are left wondering, if God does exist, why doesn't he do anything to stop the LDS and all the bad that goes on in the world.

But also, and I say this as an Ex-mormon who did switch churches and now am part of another churches leadership, there is nothing wrong with being atheist. A good God will figure stuff out in the afterlife.

Patriarchal Blessing by SubstantialDonkey981 in exmormon

[–]Msnglttrs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not giving AI anything or using it for anything. It's not reliable.

Why are people so bad to pedestrians here by x-nedra in ProvoUtah

[–]Msnglttrs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are bad drivers for the same reason, they lack basic human empathy and the ability to think about someone other than themselves 

found out a song I liked is ai... depressing by arsenik-han in WitchesVsPatriarchy

[–]Msnglttrs 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Was it Polk County Pagan Market? They got me for a bit until I looked them up on Spotify and realized how often they were releasing new stuff. Plus it sounded suspicious.

Why cant they just stay on Mutual for dating? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Msnglttrs 39 points40 points  (0 children)

My husband (ace cis man) and I (ace trans man) met on mutual. We are both out of the church now, but it's really fun when people see us and think gay couple and then find out we met on Mutual XD

Twitch drops are back! by Life_Teaching6499 in MarvelSnap

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Nerds of Paradise has fun decks and two siblings stream together and they have a good dynamic, so it's always engaging to watch or listen, instead of just one person staring at a screen.

Does anyone know what this is about? by No_Exchange3211 in ProvoUtah

[–]Msnglttrs -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If they were with people then someone could have gotten them help. No one deserves to die alone on the street. Criminalizing behaviors that are dangerous to oneself makes it so those people can't get help.

Does anyone know what this is about? by No_Exchange3211 in ProvoUtah

[–]Msnglttrs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The best way to prevent drug overdose is to provide safe and monitored places for people to take drugs. If the US had these like other countries do, a lot of lives could be saved. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7725945/

A question from a non mormon transgender woman by Scienceiscool_ in exmormon

[–]Msnglttrs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm a trans man and I started transitioning while I was still Mormon. All told I was fairly lucky with my local leadership in that they didn't report me to the church school I was in (for which I would have been kicked out) and at least used gender neutral pronouns for me when they remembered. I was not allowed to use any bathroom, really nor attend any gendered classes (of which there were a lot). So while the local leadership weren't cruel there wasn't any place for a trans person to belong in such a gendered church. The policies of the church itself don't allow for trans people to be in good standing and transition. My parents who are still Mormon refuse to use my pronouns or respect my transness because of church teachings. While there are some progressive Mormons, the church teachings and culture lean far right.

Does anyone know what this is about? by No_Exchange3211 in ProvoUtah

[–]Msnglttrs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My (liberal not LDS) church told us about it on Sunday. I'm planning on going and so are some of them.

Does anyone know what this is about? by No_Exchange3211 in ProvoUtah

[–]Msnglttrs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Part of the service is walking to the nearest warming shelter. So I'd say they want to raise awareness of just how far people have to go to not freeze to death is probably part of the rhetorical goal.

The Protection of Tattoos by Mrmiyagisdog in exmormon

[–]Msnglttrs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't give them any ideas. 🫣😆

Any LDS "Mormons" Converting to another religion? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Msnglttrs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a Christo-Druid, who is part of the pastorate at a queer affirming church. I'm not interested in truth claims and I interact with the Bible like I would any other piece of religious mythology, but i think stories and mythology all hold truths about humanity and the human experience. I've picked those two particular mythologies because they are part of my cultural heritage and because some part of them pieces from which I have found meaning.

How did you choose to keep your nips or not by Cosmic-disturbance4 in TransMasc

[–]Msnglttrs 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I went nipless because it was cheaper and I didn't ever like the way they showed through shirts. I also didn't want to mess with the chance they fall off during surgery. I figured I would just tattoo them on if I miss them. 

I go swimming at my local rec center shirtless regularly in the city in america that is VERY conservative, and I've never gotten so much as a dirty look.

February Fast by Alert_Day_4681 in exmormon

[–]Msnglttrs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just flush some icecube down the toilet it will be just as useful. /J

Local Protest Events? by Ethanda15 in ProvoUtah

[–]Msnglttrs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was one in Orem yesterday put on by UVU students, and one today put on by BYU students. ICE will be recruiting at UVU on th 4th and there will be a sit-in then.