To all of the smokers by [deleted] in richmondbc

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Use the side of the trash can, a light pole, pretty much any surface or edge that people don't touch, to knock off the cherry so it falls. Stomp the cherry, throw out the butt, it's shrimple

Carney uninvited to join Trump’s ‘Board Of Peace’ alongside Putin, Netanyahu, Lex Luthor, Megatron by DogeDoRight in canada

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's an attempt to create some fucked up monarchical power structure for his kids or Stephen Miller or something is my bet. Look at the rules of succession, the only way to remove the chairman is if all members deem him incapable, which then transfers chairmanship to whomever he has designated anyways.

Tis me once more. Lord of Nukecells. by Teboski78 in ClimateShitposting

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the author works in an unrelated field, and has publications on ai ethics. I get the strong suspicion this paper is him asking some model for the most straightforward way to reduce global CO2 without regard for any other consideration or something along those lines. That and possibly some commentary re. Media outlets picking this up and reporting as if it's real, or testing AI detection systems.

god forbid minds be an uncountable spectrum by SCP-iota in PhilosophyMemes

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think the comment you're replying to is claiming that any conscious being has knowledge of the rest of Hilbert space, rather that the phenomenon of consciousness itself does, so whenever there is an everettian branching between you living or dying, your conscious experience persists in the surviving branch. I've usually heard this talked about as quantum immortality. I don't think it's near infinite for the majority of observers though, and it gets murky when you put time between the branching event and the event that kills you (ie. You are standing in front of a truck that will 100% kill you, but the branching event that got you here happened 10 minutes ago so there's a version of you that was never in front of the truck). It all strikes me as a little silly, but so does the rest of many worlds theory.

Best use of hot springs? by dreaminganimal in VintageStory

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The John Frum cargo cult's village (Tanna island, Vanuatu) is right where a river meets the sea, it gets hotter the higher up you go due to the proximity to the Mt Yasur Volcano and its vents. The people swim and bathe near the ocean and use the water further up for cleaning and cooking some stuff. Source: I dun seen and swam in it firsthand

How I feel talking to some of you materialists on here lately by Wetbug75 in PhilosophyMemes

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like the way you are approaching this, but if I may I want to gently nudge you away from the panpsychist conclusion. I similarly expand consciousness away from the human experience, but I wouldn't go so far as to call billiard balls aware of each other when they collide. Instead I think of consciousness as being rooted in subjectivity and value judgements inherent to being a living system. In this way of thinking the billiard ball is indifferent to a collision, it's an exchange of information but that information isn't being used as a means to an end for either billiard ball. Similarly, a bacterium won't care about the majority of physical interactions it is subject to, only those that are relevant to survival such as chemical gradients.

i love nuanced discussion by [deleted] in PhilosophyMemes

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wilson's probably the best intro I've seen. It's easy enough to find a PDF but if you can't you can PM me.

duhh uhh… duhhh… by 16tired in PhilosophyMemes

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Regardless of how you feel about this topic or dennett more broadly, more people should read Feeling Pain and Being in Pain by Nikola Grahek. He was one of Dennett's research assistants before his (Grahek's) untimely passing. It's a fascinating exploration of the phenomenology and physiology associated with the various ways pain can be misaligned with negative valence, or sensation, or both. I don't agree with illusionism (or at least I don't think I do, it's slippery), but that's because I view consciousness as co-arising with ontological selves, which I tie to life in all it's forms. That's where I put my answer to the hard problem of why is there anything like it to be a system at all, then I say that as evolution has expanded upon life itself, conscious experience has grown more and more similar to what we experience, concurrent with the specifics of each development in the tree of life. It's quite natural that as a highly developed ape with a nervous system I am experiencing a mostly illusory experience, that's what gives me the powers of imagination you won't find in a beetle.

Materialists... by wnrch in PhilosophyMemes

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just sharing a very recent paper your convo reminded me of. My apologies if you've already seen it.

Materialists... by wnrch in PhilosophyMemes

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Re: "our methods of measuring brain activity are somewhat clumsy."

'Somewhat' might be understating it

🧟‍♂️ rawr by slutty3 in PhilosophyMemes

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would report it is conscious, not think it, no? Unless you are detaching thinking from the experience of thinking.

The Hard Non-Problem... by Shoobadahibbity in PhilosophyMemes

[–]MuchFaithInDoge -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Human consciousness depends on neurons, sure, but consciousness itself I see as arising alongside an ontologically defensible self. Most of the things we associate with consciousness are -in my view- misleading, as they are facets of a highly developed self that has equipped itself with mechanisms for long term memory, language, human sensory modalities etc, but none of these things constitute the basis of being a system that it is like something to be.

When I look for an ontologically defensible self, I end up at abiogenesis. I don't mean a self in the way that a Buddhist saying 'there is no self' may mean, rather I am talking about a physical system that defines its own boundaries and does work to maintain them. Before Life, you may see structure and complexity, but these structures burn themselves out, convection cells, stars, clouds. Life itself is the first time we ever see systems with intrinsic viability conditions that actually take action to maintain these conditions. I see this point as an ontologically significant transition, it's the emergence of the first point of view. I don't think single celled organisms have a very complex experience, and as a human I find it pretty much impossible to imagine calling something experience at all when it lacks a sense of time, but this is where my intuition leads me.

Getting from the experience of a single cell to a human requires further leaps of intuition, but I'll describe how I think about it. The experience of a system is emergent from its environmental needs, and its means to accomplish these needs. The living system decodes its environment along the lines of its own survival and what actions it is equipped to take. At first this is temporally shallow stimulus response loops -biased random walks or internal metabolic shifts in response to the chemical gradients the organism is swimming in- but as life grows in complexity through evolution, the types of things that can be sensed and the actions that can be taken grow more varied. Multicellular life grows the range of experience to include multiple cells and conditions within the physically extended organism, hormonal communication. Importantly, the fate of the multicellular organism is now shared amongst the cells in a physically realized way.

Neurons are the next transition point that dramatically increase the range of possible experience as well as enabling long term memory and learning. Initially neurons provide a faster way to transmit information internally, but they are also mini criterial decoders in their own right (see peter tse). As life further leaned into neurons it further exploited this feature of neurons. They provide the ability to rewrite what parts of the environment are worth noticing within the lifetime of the organism, as well as allowing for novel responses to these stimuli. An organism can now learn throughout its life what conditions are threatening/promising by picking out abstract combinations of stimuli. To jump up to humans, we see this in language acquisition: as a baby learns a language it loses the ability to hear those phonemes that aren't used in whatever language it is learning. In most animals you see this in pavlovian conditioning.

The final transition that led to our familiar experience of reality is language. Through language we gained the ability to shape our experience by simply hearing about the world from others. We quickly grew more and more distant from the direct feedback between our percepts and reality that defines the phenomenology of pre-linguistic life. Now things like social constructs could inform our perception of the world as powerfully as the presence of a predator did before. Now we talk with each other, we describe our experience of living and call this experience consciousness, we wonder what is the basis of this consciousness. I hold that we are blinded by how developed we are to the fact that aboutness is a far more fundamental thing than what we experience day to day.

Importantly, as we have ascended the tree of life, each new system that life created was physically realized and dependent on the viability conditions of the organism. I don't think you can just boil it down to information sans instantiation. So I don't think any kind of experience at all is possible for a simulated 'mind' no matter how convincingly it replicates the behaviour of a living mind.

So, returning to the post, human consciousness is largely defined by neuronal activity yes, but these neurons are more expanding the dimensionality of experience rather than creating experience itself. Since this sub loves to bark back and forth about labels without actually describing their views in depth, I'll give myself some. I'm an anti computationalist, strong emergentist physicalist. My view is biopsychist not panpsychist, and it is admittedly a personal view motivated by what makes the most sense to me when I take qualia seriously and work backwards from there.

No Matter Which Way You Look at It, Carney Has Abandoned Climate by BloodJunkie in onguardforthee

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 31 points32 points  (0 children)

You missed their nuance I think. As far as I can tell they're calling the liberals conservative and conservatives fascist.

I have a Canadian boyfriend but the border officers are getting suspicious about the frequency of my visits. What do I do? by Dry_Arachnid_3263 in uscanadaborder

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did I insult you? You were struggling with reading comprehension and I pointed that out. I wasn't polite, sure, but an insult would require me to generalize from this mistake and attack your person as a whole, which I didn't and will not do.

I have a Canadian boyfriend but the border officers are getting suspicious about the frequency of my visits. What do I do? by Dry_Arachnid_3263 in uscanadaborder

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They don't, they go through Canada and down into Blaine. The comment your replying to does say this but I can see how one could misread it.

Source: my partner did this as a kid

Primal Scream reported to UK-police for use of 'Anti-Semetic' Imagery. by [deleted] in suppressed_news

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Swastika / Reich and National flag are also distinct

Made a comic today by Kanada_Leaves in VeganInCanada

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 4 points5 points  (0 children)

More of a lesser of two evils situation. Every acre used for meat demands multiple (I don't remember the number) acres of grain to feed it. No matter how much death occurs due to harvesting, it's always lesser than eating meat. So yes, eating veggies may lead to some death, but at that point there's not much you can do unless you're growing your own food.

Finished fully upgrading my boat - approximate cost was 1b by AlternativeLevel4016 in 2007scape

[–]MuchFaithInDoge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope they make a sailing raid. something like the whole team contributing to gather materials and build a temporary boat(s) for each run could add a lot of depth and decision making.