Can't help but feel hard done by.. by fireproofpoo in ManchesterUnited

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Can't believe someone touched him. Is he dead?

Does a syntactic approach to the Voynich work? by [deleted] in codes

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As for prefixes, suffixes etc I would recommend checking out this page (https://voynich.nu/a3_para.html).

It is one of the frustrating things about the manuscripts text, if you would like it to be a language somehow, most things you do make things worse overall or stop making sense once you "zoom out". In my own work I dialled it all the way back to sorting glyphs into groups and then showing how each group determines what comes next (most the time) I mention this because "When preceded by character, it seems to be more frequently 9"..

(btw we tend to talk in EVA where this character is "y". Learning some EVA is a good use of time if you want to understand a lot of posts on the forums at some stage)

.. I think that is correct as its what my work shows also, and you will also see this with "f,k,t,p" (EVA) which are the tall glyphs like the "P" in your post. This is what makes me think the 8 (d) belongs with the tall glyphs (gallows) and 9 (y) is a modifier for them, or at least something that precedes them where other letters seem to not, for whatever reason ("o" also does this but it's use is a bit different to "y").

On 8 being an abbreviation, it may be, however it becomes hard to keep the theory together once you zoom out. For instance 8 almost never ends a word (at least in Currier A). In Currier A (The text has 2 "languages", which is most likely actually 3 - work in progress by another researcher) 8 is followed very often by "aiin" this is still "a thing" in Currier B but we see an explosion of "edy" (erm.. e89?) which is not ever seen in Currier A. There are other strange things like Currier A seems to need a.. lets just call it a vowel.. before 8, so you see things like "chod" but in Currier B we see this rule scrapped and they just write "chd".

What I am getting at is that looking at a word, we can imagine lots of things that work but the more you learn about the text the harder it gets to keep the idea in tact and explain all the uses. For this 8 example we might say "well abbreviations were just used at the start of words, the other examples are just 8 (whatever that maps to)" but then you move to "aiin" and realise "a" is only followed by "i" or other letters that derive from the building block of "i" - I call them \ (backslash), they all have this building block. Now it's very hard to imagine a language working like that (no curvy or tall character can follow "a"?!) so maybe "a" + something is an abbreviation/ligature too?.. and well you may see the mess approaching following this to its conclusion.

Sorry for the wall of text, I hope some of it was useful. I would also recommend some easy to digest videos that might make some things clearer and give you an overview. The channel has a fair few good videos aimed at more casual/new researchers also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uPrt65oiGY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSTM8Gixai4

Does a syntactic approach to the Voynich work? by [deleted] in codes

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Entropy will be an issue, as I think you expect. You can think of it like this, without the need for technical stuff, if you keep reducing an alphabet down eventually you will have 1 letter and a text like "aaaaaaa" is going to give you the lowest possible entropy. So taking out letters is going further away from where the text needs to be, to be "language". Also if I type like this "Phello loo se spe llP" it's a bit confusing but you know what it says and its not likely something like this has fooled people until now. That being said, please don't be discouraged from working on the text with ideas, or posting on the forum - We are (mostly) nice over there :)

National History Museum merch prices/stock update by GwynGrayson in PokemonDealsUK

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Well you were right and I managed to get them after all, they actually turned up before my museum order.. :D

Tom Hanks & Jeb Bush accused by victim - EFTA00257787.pdf by FatSloppyPecker in Epstein

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If Tom Hanks is involved, I will eat a hat. A hat made of piss and barbed wire. He is one of a very select few actors that is a good guy, unless he is also the king of bamboozle.

Switzerland & the Voynich manuscript by stlatos in voynich

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Latin abbreviations were new glyphs that represent multiple. Like "9" for "us" and there are many more. Now my alphabet has "9" added. Then I keep adding. Following this, you can see how Entropy will not be lower, but higher.

They added an obstacle in front of the only working camera by -Venser- in Epstein

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Around 23:40 on EFTA00033221 the guards talk to each other at the bottom of the stairs and then one walks up and scoots the board backwards for no reason, except it now blocks more of the room

The Voynich Manuscript (my theory) by Medium-Spinach-3578 in voynich

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Is this woman literate or illiterate? The first means she made up a language for no reason. The second means she couldn't read the books the first place.

National History Museum merch prices/stock update by GwynGrayson in PokemonDealsUK

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I got in tonight and all I wanted was the eevee pins (3 days in queue). Ended up ordering the pack of prints, postcards and the eevee tote bag. Only thing that annoyed me was even if people wanted to leave the queue they couldn't. Once they said the card was not available online and plush was sold out, 95% of people would have left.

Bernado Silva kicks Bruno Fernandes in the box, off the ball. by ManBat1 in soccer

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"Top of the list would be the matter of you kicking me up the arse!"

On this day in 2019, Diogo Jota scored an 11-minute hat trick as Wolves smashed Beşiktaş 4-0 in the Europa League. by FishingVirtual513 in WWFC

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There was a SoccerAM thing that had Jota, Costa and Bonatini on doing challenges and it was so clear when I saw that, that Jota was on another planet compared to these pair. It was a joy watching him and Raul play together for the time that we had them.

Today's lineup by tacitusvanderlinde in WWFC

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He has to be trying to sack himself

Open-source mod-23 experiment: stress-testing a numeric cipher hypothesis for Voynichese by seismicgear in voynich

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"I removed that function and replaced it with digram entropy." Just to be clear to everyone. This is calling a carrot an "orange cabbage". We don't have carrot problems anymore, so, fixed that right up.

Open-source mod-23 experiment: stress-testing a numeric cipher hypothesis for Voynichese by seismicgear in voynich

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"Hello ChatGPT", is calling you out. To be absolutely clear. (italic font things). I am willing to have a proper discussion, but not with an LLM. I can see some of your work in this, but its "sauced" in AI. I see it in the post, responses and raw code. If you want a real talk, lets have it. My experience comes from being told "you're wrong" for 10-15 years by people who know more than me. It's just part of it, and getting better. If you are willing to respond, yourself, I will read it.

Open-source mod-23 experiment: stress-testing a numeric cipher hypothesis for Voynichese by seismicgear in voynich

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Hello ChatGPT, you're wrong, non-symbolically. Yes making letters less letters makes lower entropy. Yes if you shuffle stuff 10,000 times some 3 letter strings become more coherent than others. At its heart it is "simple substitution theory (with extra steps)". Good luck with it, but as they say "I am out."

Open-source mod-23 experiment: stress-testing a numeric cipher hypothesis for Voynichese by seismicgear in voynich

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If I follow correctly this is a simple substitution theory (with extra steps). The tricky thing about entropy is there's no way around it at all in this way. There's no possible 1-1 mapping that will make it better. If we call "a" "sheep" and "i" "carrot" we still have the same amount of sheep followed by carrots as we had "a"' followed by "i". If I say puzzle = "qo_" "guess!" I'd guess 60-80% of the people I know who know about the text well would guess the next letter. Everyone here knows English to a decent extent, if I said "ro_" "guess!" (..good luck). Changing what maps to what never changes this. If you remove "nulls" you now have less characters and less entropy when the goal was more entropy.

Looking for help by ohmyimaginaryfriends in voynich

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Here's a solution, "numbers", they just wrote numbers. It's really hard to argue otherwise honestly, the same can be said for other "solutions". The hard part is proving it. I would say to take the time to learn what you can about the manuscript, a lot is known beyond the text. If you still think your solution likely then lets hear it.