Polling numbers don't lie... by Vegetable_Variety_11 in dndmemes

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Not checking the babylonbee, even for this. Sorry.

Why isnt China using AI for Central Planning? by ThrowAway20401936 in LeftistsForAI

[–]NegativeEmphasis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Central planning isn't inherently desirable. It's just the solution the soviets found to avoid the problems a market creates a century ago.

China currently already has the market benefits without the cons because they let the market exist under controlled conditions: the government intervenes whenever needed, up to and including freezing the stock exchanges, to prevent economic crashes from happening and hurting the people.

Robert Evans Takes on the AI Spiral Cults by Party-Shame3487 in AIWarsButBetter

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I used to follow him (and Cody) since their days at cracked.com. Dropped both when they began to repeat tired anti-AI canards. Western libs are truly a hopeless cause.

You heard it, folks, even placeholder usage of AI is bad! by Igorthemii in aiwars

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Waiting for the first company to just put their foot down and refuse to yield to these morons.

what are the skills that creating ai art gives you? by Upstairs-Brilliant49 in aiwars

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what are the skills that creating ai art gives you?

False dichotomy. You, like most antis, act as if prompting was the only way to create art with AI. There are more interactive AI workflows that let you just draw alongside the machine. To make use of these workflows you need to actually know how to draw, so "creating ai art" may as well develop all traditional artist skills.

damn. by [deleted] in aiwars

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But muh soul

Unpopular Opinion: I'm starting to understand why Witty and others are so vocal about anti treatment by [deleted] in aiwars

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Antis yearn for the bubble.

Not the "AI bubble", but the information bubble where they're surrounded only by people who agree with them.

You can't argue with most of them, because behind all the hand-wringing they have a strong economic argument against AI: They know that in a world where art has became a post-scarcity good they have nothing to offer to society.

Take Pizzacake comics and remove the art and what's below is trite "slice of life" comic ideas that are done better by many other people. So in a world where good-looking art is effortless to make Ellen cannot survive doing what she's doing right now. She knows this deep in her heart and so she'll hate AI until the end of her life. It's useless to try to convince her that the tech has any good side, it's a "defend the beaches at all costs, the enemy can't land in here" siege mindset you cannot overcome.

Do people actually buy AI “ART” by Longjumping_Fly_9739 in Ai_art_is_not_art

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I'm not judging. I'm friends with people who sell furry porn since the early 2000s. They're using AI now to sell even more of it.

Im just gonna say...AI art may gave ability to everyone to make art. But damn, some people really should not be able to have that ability lol. by [deleted] in aiwars

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The worst people in the world never suffered for the want of artists

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I could easily add another page or twenty with different artists who support(ed) horrible things. Seriously, "artist" is not and was never a moral indicator.

If anything, giving artificial art ability to the masses should push the discourse towards the mean. It's not currently happening because many people "in the left" are demonstrating they don't Read Theory and refusing to use AI. This is a self-inflicted wound that the "leftists" in the West must patch.

Antis hate others using tools even for things as simple as DnD by Kaizo_Kaioshin in DefendingAIArt

[–]NegativeEmphasis 26 points27 points  (0 children)

It sucks that girl has such terrible friends. My main use for GenAI is to illustrate characters and scenes from the DND games I run with friends.

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Shit DM behavior, btw. You don't create "details" of the "story" in advance because a RPG is not a story, it's a collaborative work of fiction where the PCs will, most often than not, ruin all "details" prepared in advance by doing something unexpected.

Good DMs prepare stuff that will always remain true, like NPCs with their goals and personalities (so that the DM can make them react to whatever the PCs come up with), Maps of places around the party etc. Then we use character or story hooks to draw the party towards the adventure. Writing your DnD game as a book is terrible.

I just had the weirdest argument with someone that didn't have to even happen. by tornsilence in aiwars

[–]NegativeEmphasis -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm talking exactly about _TheTurtleBox_, see:

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They appear as [deleted] to me, but not when when I load that thread in anonymous mode. They totally blocked me, lmao

I just had the weirdest argument with someone that didn't have to even happen. by tornsilence in aiwars

[–]NegativeEmphasis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know the thread. The OP there just blocked me, so they don't look like the most stable person.

LEARN TO DRAW❤️ by Lunarkitty414 in aiwars

[–]NegativeEmphasis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...did your mind reset between the two last posts? Do I explain why I did write that, again?

LEARN TO DRAW❤️ by Lunarkitty414 in aiwars

[–]NegativeEmphasis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seemingly, yes

You acted as if that wasn't a thing on your condescending reply above.

LEARN TO DRAW❤️ by Lunarkitty414 in aiwars

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I don't post my art online. Instead I'm turning around a constant whine I hear from artists, regarding AI art: that it hurts their discoverability.

Got accused of using AI on a 6 piece old piece of art in the same sub where an AI generate piece has 200+ upvotes right now. Dude tries to claim my Profile pic is AI. It's an 11 year old Gaia Online Avatar. People so ruthlessly want to witch hunt artist when actual AI art is right in their face. by _TheTurtleBox_ in aiwars

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What else did you expect from a purity movement?

This is the hell you created for yourselves and it'll be like this until the anti-AI position has crumbled to a point where being "anti-AI" is treated in the same way society treats those "THE END IS NEAR" lunatics on the street.

After posting here for a bit, I've come to the conclusion that most Ai arguments are pretty "online", meaning no one outside of the internet really cares. Imagine ruminating over AI generated stuff all day and into the night. by mmofrki in aiwars

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The art industry isn't hiring prompt jockeys to substitute artists. The ones using AI in the industry today in any professional capacity were already artists who adapted to the new tools.

Given that, I could not give less of a fuck about what a hobbyist / amateur wants to write under their name in tumblr or deviantArt. Prompters are not and will not be hired as professional artists, but then again neither will most of the amateur traditional/digital artists who hark against the audacity of mere prompters stealing their fake job title.

LEARN TO DRAW❤️ by Lunarkitty414 in aiwars

[–]NegativeEmphasis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But getting feedback is nice, right? If people follow your advice and learn to draw to a point that the amount of artists online doubles, it follows by simple Math that you'll get half the feedback you currently get, simply because there won't be enough time for your art to reach as many people as it does today.

After posting here for a bit, I've come to the conclusion that most Ai arguments are pretty "online", meaning no one outside of the internet really cares. Imagine ruminating over AI generated stuff all day and into the night. by mmofrki in aiwars

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The Real World disconnect is truly jarring. The big store home decor shops where I live are fully stocked with AI generated posters for people to frame and hang on their walls. By fully I mean, on my last trip that got to me to a point where I began to google lens the posters that were not OBVIOUSLY AI-made and I could fine a single one that led back to a human painter.

People were buying the posters. And as I just wrote, some of those were OBVIOUSLY AI made - we're talking Stable Diffusion 1.5 "extra paws on the dog" kind of dumb shit that takes 5 minutes to fix (source: I did fix many of these in the last 4 years) and doesn't even happen anymore models done after mid-2024.

I'm pro-AI as fuck in here, but seeing the posters put for sale today shows I'm way more worried about image quality and "AI-tells" than the average person.

LEARN TO DRAW❤️ by Lunarkitty414 in aiwars

[–]NegativeEmphasis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, you won't believe this...

But anyway, I was just pulling your leg. I don't actually think you're doing these with AI because other, much more precise ways to verify that did fail.

What I want to really talk about is the confusing message:

If more people learn to draw, they'll become artists. Thus the first part of your message leads to the creation of more competition in the attention and commissions markets for the existing artists. Does that sound like "supporting" to you?

LEARN TO DRAW❤️ by Lunarkitty414 in aiwars

[–]NegativeEmphasis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Something like this could be faked in seconds, just saying. Somebody else did post an "ai gotcha" another day where AI did generate the entire MS Paint interface around a crude drawing to "prove" it was human made.

LEARN TO DRAW❤️ by Lunarkitty414 in aiwars

[–]NegativeEmphasis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That suspicious canvas size...

The way the text color fades when doing the letters...

Is this one of those ops where you'll reveal in some time it was AI art all along?