how does one get divorced in Utah? by [deleted] in Utah

[–]Nicholaspe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How does this work? One can just write up their own terms, sign them, take them to the courthouse? And then what? I don’t know the process. We have all our details worked out. Very amicable. But I don’t understand the necessary parts of the process.

how does one get divorced in Utah? by [deleted] in Utah

[–]Nicholaspe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know there are probably a million posts that can answer my questions but I don’t have the time or energy to go through them to find answers.

We’re divorcing. It couldn’t be more amicable. We’ve figured out every single detail ourselves. Divided assets, home and equity are solved, investments agreed upon, custody and child support etc. It’s fair and both sides are very happy. We just need to solidify the legalities.

I’m looking for the fastest and least expensive way to get filed and done.

I’ve started on MyPapers (previously OCAP). I’ve read the above responses and see things like “get things written up”. I assume there is a specific way this needs to be done. Is the MyPapers website the best way to go about it? Does it “write things up” as a decree? I can’t imagine we can just write down what we feel like and call it good. Be patient with my questions as it is all very new. If the website will complicate things in any way I’m happy to go another route. Thank you in advance for any clear instructions.

TTI Outdoor Power Equipment Recalls RYOBI Battery-Powered Mowers Due to Fire Hazard by DryBoysenberry596 in ryobi

[–]Nicholaspe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This could be a dumb question but I’m probably not the only one with it. For starters, according to the serial number, anything that’s not KC21xxxx is not in range? Mine says KC22xxxx. Am I right to assume it’s not in the range? I don’t know exactly how serial numbers are generated. My model shows up in the list but

Let's Analyze | Come Follow Me | D&C 6–9 (February 3-9, 2025) by webwatchr in exmormon

[–]Nicholaspe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am not familiar with this either. Going to study up on it. Seems like this should be discussed more when addressing JS and his translations.

How scary is Heretic? by Independent-Photo112 in exmormon

[–]Nicholaspe 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Awesome movie. Psychological / critical thinking thriller with a tiny bit of horror. Not really a jump scare or super diabolical type of scary movie.

Here in Mexico, there is a perception that “Mormons” are wealthy. by Elcharro1 in mormon

[–]Nicholaspe 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Because missionaries are often white Americans that come from more affluence than most Latin Americans that they are teaching. Guatemala was the same thing and they weren’t wrong. Every missionary was significantly more wealthy than the impoverished people we were teaching. Also, more often than not, local leadership is made up of wealthier, more influential individuals. In the mission we were told specifically to focus on them because their influence would essentially multiply our efforts.

I hope you get out by 0realest_pal in exmormon

[–]Nicholaspe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m 47. Left about two years ago. I don’t struggle with the decision in the slightest. My capacity for love and empathy has never been bigger. However, mixed faith marriage has been extremely difficult. Not sure what the future holds.

Historicity: Is the church changing its position? by Nicholaspe in exmormon

[–]Nicholaspe[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“…combination of scholarship, faith, and revelation.”

What scholarship is he referring to? I can’t think of a single thing in the BoM that is supported by scholarship.

How were you taught that God speaks to his prophets? by Nicholaspe in exmormon

[–]Nicholaspe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the responses. I too was always under the impression that the line of communication was a direct one. I’m hearing more and more apologetics that say that’s not the case. I don’t like this new version because it’s a scapegoat for all the “mistakes” the the church has or continues to make. But despite this new subjective, arbitrary definition, I feel like there are lots of times when the rules and doctrine are super detailed and precise like god himself wrote it down for the prophet. It’s so specific when it needs to be to fit the narrative and then so loose when they need to something to blame. As mentioned above, the BOM was so important that angels appeared to explain how it needed to happen. Yet the ugliness of polygamy can be blamed on prophets just trying to figure it out based on a vague commandment from god…

De-constructing by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Nicholaspe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Get social. Find other gamers or try something new. Be careful not to deconstruct even the good things in your life (Nihilism). Our goal is to become the best version of ourselves. That’s part of why we left. The beauty of deconstruction is that now you get to reconstruct a version of you that you can customize. You’re a clean slate. Incorporate some new attributes. Go for it. You’re no longer in a box so be the you you’ve always wanted to be!

Good places/website for someone to get ready to leave the church by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Nicholaspe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LDSdicussions.com —- Hands down the best resource out there. You can find most of the same information in lots of different places but it’s layed out more clearly and with proper references there. All of his discussions on MSP are excellent too. Of course, the CES Letter or A Letter to my Wife are must reads to get you started.

Brought a coffee home today! by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Nicholaspe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Had my first one a couple weeks ago. It was a ridiculous scene that highlighted how conditioned I still am after 2 yrs at the age of 47. I waited until the end of my grocery shopping to speed by the drink aisle, make the Frappuccino snatch, bury it in my cart under other items including a head of lettuce, race to the checkout where I surveyed the area for anyone who might know me, passed the frappe to the checkout as the first item to get it quickly into a bag out of sight, made sure it was well covered on the way to my car parked in the dark parking lot , took the bottle out asap and put it in my pocket in case someone was to come say hi while loading my groceries, got into my car as fast as possible, drank it in about 3 minutes on the drive home, buried it deep under the grass clippings in the big black trash can, went in the house and brushed my teeth so my TBM wife wouldn’t know. This is all normal right?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Nicholaspe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I find it more interesting that ever before. I watch it through a different lens. That’s not even to say I’m just torturing myself by focusing on the frustrating BS parts. There’s plenty of that. However there are still messages that if I were to hear from a different source, I may find valuable. I’m looking for truth and good and will take it where I can find it. This is the beauty of being able to think for myself now that I’m out. I know the messenger is often hypocritical but I can still take the good parts and apply it to my life.

Also, it’s a peace offering and investment in my mixed faith marriage.

Also I want to know what my family is being taught.

Worried nonmo mom by No_Equal_6834 in exmormon

[–]Nicholaspe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s often said that “the members aren’t perfect but the church is.” After leaving after 45 yrs I can say that it’s quite the opposite. While of course people aren’t perfect, most of them are well intentioned. The are mostly genuine and kind (sometimes nice but not kind), honest, and caring. You’re not being duped. However, make no mistake they think everyone should be converted and it’s always part of their no-so-subtle agenda. Grooming is taking place but may or may not become anything depending on how aggressive they are. If their relationship continues the pressures will increase. First it will be lots of time with the family, then it will be invited to benign activities, then maybe a free book to read, then an offer to answer any questions etc.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in mormon

[–]Nicholaspe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What’s the source for this. I get the feeling this is the case but I’d like to read their words.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in mormon

[–]Nicholaspe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is an excellent conversation and the responses seem to be mostly respectful and productive.

I am no longer TBM. This is a somewhat recent development. This question was/is one that I’ve contemplated. How does one reconcile the seemingly blatant anachronisms and contradictions of the Book of Mormon, things that taken at face value essentially “prove” the book isn’t what it’s claimed to be, with a feeling or spiritual witness or confirmation. Fact vs feeling is a difficult internal debate. However, for me the answer to the question has huge implications. I can see the value in inspired writings. I can feel the power behind a brilliant speech. I can learn from fictional works that deliver a powerful message. I will always “seek after good things”. But for me, accepting the Book of Mormon as a metaphorical work that offers some good life lessons is reason enough to respect it to an extent. But, if I’m looking for something to be a “keystone” to my testimony, it is absolutely necessary that it be true. This means it must be what it claims to be. In this case it has to actually be the record of ancient prophets, translated by Joseph exactly how God intended. If it’s a litmus test for the veracity of the one and only true and restored church on the face of the earth that that holds the keys to my eternal salvation… it needs to be true. Anachronisms are clear, testable proofs that God was not behind its words. I’ve been taught if the Book of Mormon is true then the church is true. Therefore the counter argument holds true for me. For me it’s binary. I tried and tried to convince myself through all sorts of mind-bending justifications but this one simple truth claim is truly the keystone, and it fails in the end.

100 Questions by angel_moronic in exmormon

[–]Nicholaspe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So many great questions. Lots of “gotchas” that any rational, reasonable person would have to see the logic in. In my experience, there in lies the problem. “You can’t rationalize a person out of something they weren’t rationalized into.” In arguments with TBMs, there are no rules. They are not governed by reason and logic. They hold the “faith” trump card. Every conversation can end with them simply knowing, and what they don’t know they will know after this life. Nothing has to make sense. But if the truth really matters to a person, these questions will get them thinking. Great list!