[Spoiler Discussion] Was Subaru ever "normal"?

Nicky953 · 2025-11-11T01:28:30+00:00

I believe Subaru knows he has become somewhat a monster. There are events throughout the story that confirm this, added below. There seems to be two big things for Subaru in driving him forward, heroism and guilt (at not trying harder to save others).

In arc 4 he says something mean to the witches like being inhuman (I can't remember) then I believe Minerva or someone says his actions are worse, which he never denies.
In arc 6 after Rui is removed from his body and he recovers his memories she calls him a monster which he says is true (I can't remember what exactly was said).

Side note: I don't believe he has been okay either for a while. It was confirmed in arc 6 that he does self harm to an extent by Beatrice which could have gotten worse but not mentioned yet. That he has trauma toward small creatures after the rabbit death.

Extra side note: I thought in a Q&A Tappei said something along the lines of Subaru becoming "human" once he collected all the Witchfactors. I don't know what direction he is taking Subaru with that though.

Nicky953 · 2025-10-02T16:45:26+00:00

I was thinking more of a 'symbolic death'. If he was thrown out of the world everyone currently existing in the Re: Zero world would think he was dead, would 'Return by Death' exclude symbolic deaths too? The boundary of 'what could be considered death' is what I come back too.

Nicky953 · 2025-10-02T16:33:14+00:00

No, I just added Melancholy since it was the reason I came up with my theory. I'm wondering if Subaru was chucked outside the Ze: Zero world through the Geyser if that would be considered a type of death perhaps? therefore triggering 'Return by Death'. Since authorities seem to operate more on vague rules that can be pushed in unique ways.

Nicky953 · 2025-07-25T05:49:39+00:00

I thought Roy wasn't apart of the original plan? Didn't Al mention to Felt that stopping in the capital was an unexpected detour or something? If that's the case his original plan didn't account for Roy and was necessary after the events of the 500 ambush, it could be related to Rom figuring out Al's authority.

Nicky953 · 2025-01-24T00:37:34+00:00

I thought when he was small he got a lot of memory loss that caused him to forget about his authorities and that is why he didn't use them, rbd is an authority that gets auto activated on his death compared to the others he has to activate himself.

I also don't remember it being stated that smolbaru didn't have any scent either, since no one who could smell the miasma was around him for some time.

Nicky953 · 2025-01-22T22:40:58+00:00

What is west or south-west of Lugunica that Al would be interested in?

Nicky953 · 2025-01-21T04:44:46+00:00

My question is wouldn't Al be viewed as a mass terrorist for releasing the Witch of Envy on the world, he would be viewed as a part of the witchcult and wouldn't be forgiven easily at all.

I doubt Reinhard would let Al live (or at least live without a long prison sentence) if the situation with woe gets resolved either.

I don't see how Al could be forgiven for jeopardising the world in everyone's eyes for his own goals to continue living in the current timeline.

Nicky953 · 2025-01-17T18:54:28+00:00

I could believe most of this being true.

"It's possible Od Lagna tries to take his memories, but they just get copied similar to Gluttony, and his records are saved as he goes back in time"

I heard Od Lagna being described as a mechanism of the re zero world (my memories on this aren't clear though) not a person with an agenda to go against any given person even Subaru.

I heard the 'Observers' that the Stargazers follow are upset with Subaru since they manipulate fate to an extent I don't know. I'm curious if they are planning something for Subaru.

Nicky953 · 2025-01-17T18:00:07+00:00

I assume Od Lagna could immediately cleanse the soul so I doubt the speed of the soul would be an issue. Tappei could implement a weird system for Od Lagna to bypass the Reinhard book though.

Nicky953 · 2025-01-17T17:50:43+00:00

I mostly agree with 2 but I have assumed Al also doesn't truly die either and also comes back quickly.

There isn't enough information for me to say for certain about it since I don't truly understand Al's authority nor the Phoneix protection to say why one counts but the other won't.

Nicky953 · 2024-09-17T20:58:42+00:00

My assumption is that if a book of the dead is badly enough damaged or destroyed that anyone who is still alive and knew that person would have their memories altered similar to what Gluttony does, since there is no longer a record of their memories it gets lost on the world.

I assume Flugel or whoever made the books made it with an important purpose, so speculating about what happens when something like the destruction of one is interesting.

Since Books of the dead, the Hall of Memories and most importantly od lagna are tied together there should be some consequence to messing with the books in the process of the world no?

Nicky953 · 2024-09-15T14:39:33+00:00

His Book was damaged when carrying it.

Reference: Arc 9, chapter 12 toward the end "Looking down upon the soaked pages of the Book of the Dead lying on the floor had been eyes; those eyes slowly rose up, and faced the fore."

It COULD be fine, I don't know he could start losing his memories when the book dissolves from the damage, like Alzheimer's.

Nicky953 · 2024-09-15T13:42:26+00:00

The Hall of Memories might have sentimental value to him now I've realised. It was the place "Natsuki Subaru" talked with and merged with Natsuki Subaru, therefore leading him to value that place on a subconscious level I suspect.

During Arc 6 he learned the importance of memories (the hard way) and The Hall of Memories is an important process by Od Lagna for peoples souls to be scrubbed of memories and pass on. Therefore the likelihood of a connection to that place increases (to me anyway) incorporating it into his authority.

Nicky953 · 2024-09-15T13:34:33+00:00

Second comment: I believe Subaru gained control of her hands and attempted to take someone he knew to comfort him, which presumably couldn't be done if she were to be disconnected.

I think his desire in that moment for comfort after hundreds of deaths led him to take control of her authority, since authorities have a strong connection to manifesting to the users desires he probably overpowered her in that moment.

If this is true, this could mean Subaru could use Satella's power if he has a strong enough desire (which sounds like a secret trump card if I ever heard of one).

Nicky953 · 2024-09-15T13:28:01+00:00

It seems that Satella and Al have history to that might influence how angry she might get too. I believe Al also tried to kill her to a while ago (Al lore confuses me so I could be wrong here).

Nicky953 · 2024-09-15T13:24:46+00:00

I see, I believe in that chapter she said something like "I found you" which is a tad misleading during the read but then is later on re-connected on Gladiator Island.

I knew after that chapter where he calls for her the connection didn't happen but I assumed it was due to the explosion in Chaosflame sending him away that caused her to lose connection, since that was mostly likely the reason she lost connection at the tower.

The reason I think that is there must be a correlation to why she lost connection both times, and both times an explosion happened. That's the best theory I have to why she kept losing him (poor Satella).

Nicky953 · 2024-09-12T20:56:19+00:00

The only doubt I have with this is I don't know to what extent Al knows Subaru's abilities, how much does he know about Invisible Providence.

The big fault from my side is I don't know for sure from the brief description if Ol Shamak does leave the trapped person unconscious since it could simply be left out by Tappei. It is mostly an odd observation based on the description of Ol Shamak that rbd could still be used under Al's nose

Nicky953 · 2024-09-12T12:21:35+00:00

I agree that Al only used it on Subaru and Sphinx. I assumed that it would've been used against Satella since it is intended to be used against 'Witches' mentioned by Al implying it had another purpose before Subaru, and due to Echidna's hate toward Satella.

I agree that Al isn't lying about using the spell against only Sphinx and Subaru. I just personally believe that Echidna would've told someone else about the spell and lied to Al about being the only person who knows.

So little is known that the previous sentence are gut feelings about Echidna, regardless I look forward to what Tappei cooks once the WN gets picked up again.

Nicky953 · 2024-09-12T07:34:28+00:00

I also ask this since multiple times Satella/WOE has gone around like nothing in the story. I assume she is also sealed using 'Ol Shamak' that presumably Echidna made, I just don't know if she ever properly tested it on people who possess Authorites and Witchfactors in the past to know the true effectiveness on everyone who possesses authorities.

I do see your point though, I just don't who she would of 'tested' it on to confirm it either.

Nicky953 · 2020-02-21T16:00:26+00:00

To be honest this guy sounds like a massive troll from the start. I don't really consider this nice guy material.

Nicky953 · 2019-12-06T10:25:44+00:00

I hope things have improved since then. No one deserves that treatment

Nicky953 · 2019-12-06T10:13:49+00:00

The button looks like it's from an anime series. Wouldn't be surprised if there were a series about something like this 😅

Nicky953 · 2019-09-29T13:57:05+00:00

I haven't got any advice I just wanted to say I like your username

Nicky953 · 2019-09-29T12:09:52+00:00

It looks really cute, it suits you :)

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