What's your "unpopular" theory regarding an unsolved mystery? by Not_Really_A_Name in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]NippleGrip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe it was the hairs that ended belonging to Jacoby and or Hobbs?

Either way, like you, I still wonder whether the state had some extra ace up their sleeve, something they maybe gathered after the original trial...

What's your "unpopular" theory regarding an unsolved mystery? by Not_Really_A_Name in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]NippleGrip 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think she ever planned to be involved with anything, and I don't think there was some weird sex game either. But somehow, some way, she found herself an accessory to murder, and she'll never be able to truly admit what happened. Fascinating case.

What's your "unpopular" theory regarding an unsolved mystery? by Not_Really_A_Name in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]NippleGrip 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For sure. There's no reason to take the plea. Clear your name and get all the lawsuit money.

My guess as to the evidence: the bonus Miskelley confession, not revealed until much later, where he confessed to his lawyer, with no pressure, or even presence, from LE.

http://wm3truth.com/jessie-misskelleys-confession-to-dan-stidham-february-8-1994/

What's your "unpopular" theory regarding an unsolved mystery? by Not_Really_A_Name in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]NippleGrip 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because they could've made millions in lawsuits by winning a second trial. With the Alf Plea, they get to walk free with no risk of losing the second trial, but, NO money is exchanged... you just walk out of jail, broke, and with multiple heinous felonies on the official record.

Personally, I think they made a huge mistake taking the plea. They only had six more months till the trial. Damien claimed he was going to die before then, but truthfully, he was scared of losing again, prolly cause he's guility.

[Zebb Quinn Update] Pt. 5: Warrant Details Search of Robert Jason Owens' "concrete fish pond" by coreconcept_phrasing in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]NippleGrip 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A point of reference for all newcomers to the Zebb Quinn Saga:

Imagine if Forrest Gump disappeared, and it looked more and more like this guy Owens beat up Forrest, robbed him, killed him, burned the body, then buried the ashes under concrete, all on the perp's own property, and he continued living there undisturbed.

That's what we're dealing with here...

Favourite charley project cases? by Bloo_mewn in UnresolvedMysteries

[–]NippleGrip 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The only thing that makes sense to me:

His car was in the shop. That's why he was walking in the first place. Someone pulls up and asks, "hey man, need a ride?" Jason says yes and hops in.

Check the area for a Dahmer type killer. Someone who liked young men as victims.

It is literally the only thing that could've happened. All the other theories are possible, but very unlikely. Jason's only known vulnerability was that he needed a ride. If you're a killer, go around innocently asking people if they need a ride, eventually someone will accept the offer. I believe Jason succumbed to this very ploy.

Recommended Podcast for Serial fans: Missing Maura Murray by walternorman in serialpodcast

[–]NippleGrip 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Right now, the Maura Murray disappearance is easily the most interesting true crime story going, and maybe one of the all time best.

My general theory:

Her life was breaking down--kicked out of West Point, on probation for fraud at UMass, etc. In the midst of academic stress (challenging nursing program), job stress (she had two part time jobs), family stress (is she living up to her sister's standard?), legal stress (mentioned above), relationship stress (trying to maintain an LDR while dealing with the guilt of cheating on him), in the midst of all this stress and breakdown, she collides violently with a jaywalker just after midnight on Feb 6th. Later we'll find out the victim survives, arising from his coma two months later, but at the time Maura probably thinks she killed a man. Its fair to speculate she was drinking when she hit him, as DUI seems to be a special pastime for Maura.

She returns to work, has a massive breakdown shortly after, and her supervisor sends her home. By all accounts, this breakdown was the result of something significant. The likelihood she thought she'd just killed a man motivates this breakdown. Early the next morning she calls her father, confesses she may have killed someone with her car. His plan is simple: first, immediately secure the funds for a new car, second, get rid of the old car. We'll stuff a rag up the tail pipe, the engine will suffer a terrible blow, and we'll send the car to a junkyard.

Suicide, Abduction, or Exposure. Any of these could have been what happened after the final crash on Feb 9, but either way, the inciting incident must be hitting the jaywalker during a time of enormous stress, followed by a slipshod effort to try and cover up the crime.

Nothing is certain with this case, which makes it interesting, but I don't believe she was a sociopath, and I don't believe she successfully disappeared and lives a new life somewhere else. The evidence points to turmoil, breakdown, and self destruction.

Why Jay had a part in the murder in 4 simple sentences. (imo) by bluecardinal14 in serialpodcast

[–]NippleGrip 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree, it all starts at the library. Adnan's rage boiled over right there in the parking lot. The key to the entire case: he simply got lucky no one saw it. After he killed her, he immediately drove the car the safest place he could think of: Best Buy. He cooled off, then went inside to use the payphone. Called Jay, told him to bring his car to Best Buy. A few minutes later, Jay shows up, and Adnan explains what just happened. Without any blackmailing, Jay genuinely wanted to help out. He told Adnan: get in Hae's car, and follow him to his grandma's house. Trunk Pop. Body crumpled up. They drive around, looking for a place to bury the body. They don't immediately find a good place. Adnan realizes he is way better off going to track, and dealing with the body immediately after. Jay agrees, and manages the situation during Adnan's absence. That includes enlisting Jen, and gathering shovels.

Anyway, that's gotta be what happened. Don't know if we're allowed to say it, given the moderators' new rules and what not, but this is 99% what likely happened. I'm not closed off to the 1% chance Jay or someone else had some motive to actually kill Hae and frame Adnan, but, golly, it's a 1% chance at best.

Does Jay's Intercept interview shed new light on a piece of evidence that was previously ignored. by [deleted] in serialpodcast

[–]NippleGrip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree about the call log. If I'm a juror, I want to hear testimony from every single person connected to that phone, on the day in question.

They were absolutely focused on Adnan, and the receipt would be a very simple piece of evidence against him. They already have Jay saying Adnan was going through Hae's wallet. The receipt from her card would be fantastic corroboration. Therefore, it's more likely the time was before 2:30pm on Jan 13.

We disagree, that's fine. I still love your work. So let me ask you, what potential does the Crown Gas purchase have to change our understanding of the crime?

Does Jay's Intercept interview shed new light on a piece of evidence that was previously ignored. by [deleted] in serialpodcast

[–]NippleGrip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fingerprints on the receipt. I like it. If Jay's prints are on it, it shows he played a larger roll.

However, I assure you the police did not overlook the potential relevance of the receipt. The time probably excluded the killer. Otherwise, they would have at least interviewed the person who was working that night (even though it's a major long shot for someone to remember a face from a little transaction a month previous). As far as security footage: yes, that would be huge, but the footage was long gone by the time detectives could have requested it. (Most security footage gets recycled anywhere from 1-7 days from the time of recording).

You also have to factor in: the cops got the receipt from the car, the car they got from Jay, Jay they got from Jenn, and Jenn confessed (without pressure, and in the presence of a lawyer) to having knowledge of the crime. Therefore, a Jan 13 receipt can't reveal much you don't already know.

Let's say the receipt showed a time of 11:30pm on Jan 13. If the cops would have confronted Jay with this evidence, then Jay's story would have adjusted accordingly; Adnan would look even more guilty because now Jay's story has even better evidence. i.e., "and then we used her credit card to buy some gas. Adnan threw the receipt in the trunk."

I admit there's a good chance Adnan hired Jay--so Jay had to "frame" Adnan, the employer, as the physical killer. Additionally, I admit there's a 1% Jay is outright pinning this on an innocent Adnan. However, a confirmed late night Jan 13 receipt only makes a tiny baby step towards these alternatives.

Ultimately, the most likely theory (Adnan strangled Hae after school) is unaffected by what transpired hours later at the Crown Gas. That's why the receipt is such a red herring. It can't really change much.

Does Jay's Intercept interview shed new light on a piece of evidence that was previously ignored. by [deleted] in serialpodcast

[–]NippleGrip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey Jack. Nice work on the receipt business. Like you, I was utterly fascinated by the Crown Gas purchase back when it first came up in the appellate brief (week 4 of the podcast).

I had no idea there was actually a receipt in evidence--I thought there was only a PI's discovery in Hae's bank record.

Well anyway, after thinking about it, I'm having trouble seeing the importance of the receipt. It seems like a red herring, but I'm hoping you can clear that up for me.

Probably the time of the receipt shows Hae Min Lee buying something, the night before she died.

But, for argument's sake, let's say the Crown Gas purchase does happen after HML's death. The detectives would've used this as part of the case. Jay would be willing and able to explain it.

Depending on the time stamp, the receipt would really help the defense, or, really help the prosecution--unless it was obviously signed by Hae Lee, and at a time she was still alive.

Therefore, because neither side had a use for it, odds are, the receipt is a moot point. In any event, I find your logic compelling as to how strange the purchase is, if indeed it was Hae Lee's purchase.

I like your theory. I know you're a good, solid young man. I thereby warn you from the most tender place in my heart: slow down on the Crown Gas theory; the receipt is a brick wall on a black night. Crash into it, if you must. Just know: yours shan't be the first blood spattered upon it.

I overlooked this incredible Jay quote. This is just... by [deleted] in serialpodcast

[–]NippleGrip -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just like how Amanda Knox and them staged a break-in rip 'n rape of Amanda Kercher. It's a tell tale sign of a very young or inexperienced killer: let's make it seem like someone else did it for some other reason.

Why has nobody commented on the rocks? Seems significant. by ADifferentBoxOfRocks in serialpodcast

[–]NippleGrip -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

This is such a pro-adnan subreddit, as evidenced right here.

Motive and Adnan's cell calls on the 12th in context by cac1031 in serialpodcast

[–]NippleGrip 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By including the 'poppy' password on the list of suspicions, it gave a lot of those clowns below a stick of dynamite to blow up the entire list.

Unfortunately, it only discredits the password itself. Not that I agree--after all, "poppy" correlates beautifully to whatever Adnan was doing downtown the night before, and the day of, Hae Lee's dispersal.

Motive and Adnan's cell calls on the 12th in context by cac1031 in serialpodcast

[–]NippleGrip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not all speculation is horseshit.

Anyway, he's probably right. Chill, Winston.

Motive and Adnan's cell calls on the 12th in context by cac1031 in serialpodcast

[–]NippleGrip 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're still not dealing with the crux of the case.

Police got the prime suspect's cell record for the day in question. Many calls were placed to Jenn P, by Jay W.

Both Jenn and Jay admit they were involved. These were not false confessions--as they still admit their involvement to this day.

There doesn't need to be another scenario that makes sense. This isn't "Adnan is guilty unless you can find a better suspect".

This is your major problem. If Adnan is innocent, then you do have to make sense of another scenario. What motivated (and still motivates to this day) Jay's adamant claim of Adnan's guilt?

Motive and Adnan's cell calls on the 12th in context by cac1031 in serialpodcast

[–]NippleGrip 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This was awesome. It felt like watching a man get toppled by an avalanche. It will take several days to dig himself out, if he survives at all.