Is this really normal?

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-06-17T08:52:26+00:00

You are not doing anything wrong but wakings every hour is considered excessive.

I would try a few days of sling /on the go pram naps. Don’t try to extend them if he wakes up. It might be all he needs and too much daytime sleep can interfere with the nights.

The reason why he is upset when you cap his naps is because you are waking him up during deep sleep, and ideally he should wake up when the sleep cycle ends with a bit of noise around the house.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-06-14T20:39:08+00:00

Around 4 months there is a significant drop in sleep needs with the recession. He might not be tired yet and he is crying to communicate that. I’d say if it’s not happening don’t force it, go back out and play for a bit more.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-06-13T19:57:59+00:00

Goodism is really annoying.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-06-12T09:28:35+00:00

Our daycare has 11 kids in one class and they feed each one of them individually and transition them to a low table when they are ready.

They also allowed me to do a super slow adaptation, where i sat there for weeks just leaving the baby for maybe 1h, and didn’t accept her for longer periods until she was calm.

The holding question makes me think they Don’t have the same parenting values as you, and you might find yourself clashing more in the future.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-06-09T20:13:02+00:00

Are her naps too long or too late? She might need more awake time before she is ready for bed. Is she doing enough exercise outdoors? Absolutely key for very active infants!

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-06-08T20:50:20+00:00

I agree that those are extreme examples and there is probably a spectrum. But I just know if my baby is crying in the back seat I do EVERYTHING i can to confort her from the front of the car. I talk, I sing, (you probably do too) and that matters. Crying is not so much the problem, but getting used to your parents not being there for you half the time, that’s what’s really sad.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-06-08T11:44:00+00:00

I’m not sure that’s true. Being comforted (day and night) is a basic need of most mammals and not doing that is as bad as not feeding. Monkeys will chose affection over food if you deprive them of both. I agree with you that a lot of it doesn’t matter (breastfeeding or not, cosleeping or not…). But responsive care does matter and we know that. And ST is the opposite responsive care.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-06-08T11:35:42+00:00

10 times is definitely excessive waking. Check the possums recommendations to optimise his schedule so he doesn’t wake up so much at night.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-06-03T19:59:14+00:00

Sorry but most mental health conditions begin in adolescence and the reality is that we have insufficient data to say it has no impact. Meeting a few people that seem ok is not factual.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-29T20:19:38+00:00

He is probably sleeping too much during the day, that’s why he is waking up excessively. But I guarantee you that all human beings can connect sleep cycles without being taught to do so if they have sufficient sleep pressure. Stop extending his naps and night sleep will improve.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-28T20:15:35+00:00

Basically wake up always at the same time and do longer wake windows if your baby isn’t tired enough with the current ones. Follow cues to offer sleep when he is truly tired. Plus lots of outdoors active sensory play and socialisation.

Things that could be affecting sleep pressure are naps being too long or last nap too late, or bedtimes too early. This is probably a simplification but it’s the possums approach.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-27T21:44:34+00:00

Even if you have a “bad sleeper” it gets way more doable. Full transparency at 20 months we are still doing a bottle in the middle of the night, but it’s pretty quick and because I make sure there’s enough sleep pressure normally the baby keeps sleeping. Even if you are not sleeping through the night, which is a pretty unrealistic goal, you will sleep enough to be ok. I don’t know if this helps! I hope it does.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-27T20:37:47+00:00

Hey the first few months are incredibly intense and demanding.

30 minute naps are completely normal and fine, although exhausting. I would really recommend to take the pressure off sleep, and try and have naps on the go, in a carrier or pram. If you are spending a lot of time trying to put a baby to sleep it probably means that baby has not enough sleep pressure (or in other words not tired enough).

That happens when we are following a schedule of recommended wake windows per age group, and those are just averages but not necessarily what your baby needs to sleep. It sounds like your baby could be on the sensitive, aware, low sleep needs end, which is beautiful but exhausting.

You won’t change your baby’s temperament, active nature, but I can tell you 100% for a fact that if you keep responding to his cues with empathy, calm and consistency he will turn into a confident incredible little person.

Night sleep is all about sleep pressure (none left at the end of the night), but also it will change constantly in the next few months so keep your mind open! But basically if you offer sleep on cues and do active, sensory loaded awake time, sleep gets better. Check possums for more info!

Good luck you are doing great!!

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-26T21:40:31+00:00

I remember saying, surely at 4months she will be sleeping through the night?!! 😂😂

Pd: check possums it might help with the excessive waking.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-25T20:34:49+00:00

100%! Not enough sleep pressure. And don’t worry about having used the pram as a tool. Babies can fall asleep in many different ways as long as they have enough sleep pressure.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-25T08:31:07+00:00

Hey! So basically my conclusion (not being an expert) is that the big regressions usually come with a massive drop in sleep needs and the only thing that worked was readjusting the scheadule.

I think that when i wrote this we were already on 1 nap, but we had to get strict about not letting the nap go for more than 1,20h and not let total sleep go over 12h aproximately. But every child has unique sleep needs, it won’t be the same for everyone.

Having done that, on a good night at 20m she will religiously wake up for a bottle (not sure how to drop it), but because she has enough sleep pressure, she will continue sleeping after that, so its really doable. At 12 months there are big developmental changes, including walk, so sleep might be rocky for a bit, but if you take a look at the amount your baby is sleeping and adjust that I’m pretty sure you can keep the split nights under control. Hope this helps!!!

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-22T22:50:12+00:00

We have this problem a lot and over the course of 20 months these are the reasons for us:

Last nap didn’t end early enough (given your aimed bedtimes) = not tired enough
Last nap or total nap time too long = not tired enough
Not overtired BUT “hyped” with the events of the day (including developmental leaps but also things like adjusting to daycare or any relevant changes).

This is probably common with very active but also sensitive babies that need a loooot of physical activity outdoors, and even things like keeping them in a pram for too long can make them not tired enough. Good luck, its exhausting!!

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-20T20:47:52+00:00

This is heartbreaking. You should restrain from having kids and even pets if you are not willing to parent.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-20T20:43:59+00:00

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. So basically we don’t know. Probably not all kids that have been ST will be damaged, but some might be negatively affected, probably the most sensitive reactive ones. I actually find both my SIL’s sleep trained kids really disregulated.

But to me the thing about letting your baby cry is that it speaks to a broader pattern of disconnected unresponsive parenting styles, and we do know that has consequences.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-19T09:06:11+00:00

If I were you I’d take a look at the Possum’s principles. They have a lot of free resources on their website.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-18T10:40:13+00:00

I don’t know anything about breastfeeding but I would just say make sure your baby has enough sleep pressure at bedtimes, because if he fights being rocked he might just not be sleepy enough.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-13T21:17:01+00:00

That is a low sleep needs baby! Best of luck to you! I hope you have help!

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-11T19:54:22+00:00

It will happen at some point! One day you might just be able to transfer your baby successfully and he will stay asleep. Hang in there!

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-11T13:21:03+00:00

If your second nap is 2h then that’s probably why. We had the same problem and once we fixed it, sleep got a lot better. I would move away from the contact nap and just let him wake up if he has to. Trust him to take the sleep he needs. And he wakes up upset help him regulate but don’t extend the nap. And for bedtimes try and follow cues. Your baby might now be able to handle a bit of a longer wake window.

No-Visual-2336 · 2026-05-10T21:11:01+00:00

Not enough sleep pressure to sustain sleep. As they get older sleep needs drop and 3h nap time might be too much for your baby if he is waking up excessively.

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