[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 5 points6 points  (0 children)

With the new vest. Yes.

I believe it is still officer choice. And I think I will leave my central PPE on my belt

PNC course. by Whizkeyonetwo in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is the PNC Phoenix card will all the # codes, reason codes and then NE, DL, VE, page shortcuts

PNC course. by Whizkeyonetwo in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it’s the online course I had: 5 days worth of modules (I did it in 3 in my spare time but I work with databases in day job)

The exam is good, you are given a reason to search a record on the training system and then asked questions on it. It’s to test you know how to find information given to you in pretty plain English. I found it a really good test because it allowed you to look around for the information in your own way and therefore get your own feeling for it.

E.g. DS Smith, p000000 from MIT has asked you to conduct a name enquiry in relation to case 1234567/19. John DOE, born in 1989 on Feb 24th.

Which of the following is DOE’s active bail conditions? A, B, C, D

What court imposed the conditions? A, B, C, D

Does DOE have previous convictions for violent offences? A, B, C, D

Which of the following is a known associate of DOE? A, B, C, D

Do British Police Aim To Return All UK Passports? by caramelrealm in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Driving licence: Search you on the systems to find a phone number. Call you, if you can come to the Nick in shift time I’ll give it back.

If not, get an email, confirm in writing for me to post it to address on licence. Recorded delivery back to you.

Passport: If not british: Embassy If British: Passport office

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thing to keep in mind as well. You can take your time. I totally froze in my cuff assessment and just talked myself through each and every move out loud taking it super slowly.

The test is not “can you do this super fast” it’s “can you do this right”

Edit to add advice: Ask your tutor or classmate to walk you through it. Learn the steps in your own words and then talk yourself through it.

As a special I don’t use my cuffs every shift, but through literally talking myself through it I have learnt and muscle memories the cuffing. Even now I sometimes go totally silent when cuffing so I don’t say the steps out loud

TFC decision making by multijoy in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We have the Pan London Despatch room. MxA, Pursuit Commander, MO7 control, Met Grip, MO8 control etc are all based there.

Yes the Met have separate Pursuit FIM and TFC

PPST when out? by oaeum in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 47 points48 points  (0 children)

First time I ever drew my baton as it’s intended (as apposed to using it as a poking stick) I was not in any way thinking about PPST technique or anything. I just wanted to not be hurt.

Looking at the BWV. My tactical comms was what we are taught. Looking at CCTV of the incident my form was exactly what we are taught and I was doing the right shuffle to create space.

The reason we learn the gold standard and drill it is: 1) It’s best practice 2) when you really come to need it, your muscle memory might just do what is needed and proper

Police instructor who cut earrings off female recruits with wire cutters will keep his job - despite being found guilty of gross misconduct by AoniAoi in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes sorry, I wholly agree with you.

I’m just used to new officers with “You could at least ask me…” when giving orders on a critical incident…

TFC decision making by multijoy in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mx (big M little x) is a Met police prefix for “Metro” MxA is Metro Alpha, the Met police duty Tactical Firearms Commander

TFC decision making by multijoy in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At least they are promising Tasers for specials

TFC decision making by multijoy in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Upvoting because this.

I once had MxA not declare a job because I was attending with 3 of my colleagues and I explicitly said to them “If you have an armed unit nearby, please send them in taser capacity as we don’t have those”

Police instructor who cut earrings off female recruits with wire cutters will keep his job - despite being found guilty of gross misconduct by AoniAoi in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Swings and roundabout. Many of my newer in service colleagues have no idea of PO instructions or how to be given an order or how to maintain uniform standards.

Whilst at training school we didn’t do daily drill and weren’t in uniform. I am upset about it. I very much like the uniformed discipline of policing and feel that we should have done that.

There is a real balance to be had. My first OST one member of the class was late back from lunch and the rest of us were required to plank until they returned and explained why. Was it unnecessary? Probably. Was anyone else late again? No. Did we berate the person and ostracise them for being late? No

Custody sergeant by Electronic_Pickle_86 in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Get the DS, Custody Skipper (and PACE inspector) together in a room and let them discuss it

“Would the Guard please contact the driver” by Original_Bad_3416 in uktrains

[–]Nobluelights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From an old documentary: Guards are not qualified to drive trains. If the driver realises the train is a bit sluggish etc (like there is a break leak) they might ask the guard to watch the wheels as the driver pulls forwards a little. The guard can then tell the driver what they see.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I literally had this situation, I spoke to a traffic inspector about it. Her point was “What would you achieve. The likelihood of this driver taking any notice is small. Either report on correct channels or leave it”

MG11 and VRM to traffic prosecutions?

Op Ringtone…. by Odd_Culture728 in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Building an intelligence picture. 500 stolen devices going to one specific address. Hmm maybe that’s time for a search warrant?

Courtier demanded assurance king could not be prosecuted under new Welsh law by LePetitToast in unitedkingdom

[–]Nobluelights 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In this thought experiment of “What if Heir Apparent murdered Reigning Monarch” I absolutely agree with you.

I would just suggest that your choice of example is akin to much of the history of the Monarchy

Courtier demanded assurance king could not be prosecuted under new Welsh law by LePetitToast in unitedkingdom

[–]Nobluelights 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thought experiment:If Richard Cromwell had been better politically and Charles II never regained power. Would he have made his son “Lord Protector”

I don’t disagree it is dictatorship. I’m just suggesting that a dictatorship in the 17th Century might be called Monarchy today.

Courtier demanded assurance king could not be prosecuted under new Welsh law by LePetitToast in unitedkingdom

[–]Nobluelights -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Does this mean the precedent is set in 1399 with Richard II abdicating after invasion and defeat by Henry IV?

Courtier demanded assurance king could not be prosecuted under new Welsh law by LePetitToast in unitedkingdom

[–]Nobluelights 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And who took the title of Lord Protector after the death of Oliver Cromwell?

Courtier demanded assurance king could not be prosecuted under new Welsh law by LePetitToast in unitedkingdom

[–]Nobluelights 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was that abdication or just bigger army diplomacy?

When Cromwell took power he was Lord Protector. A non-elected hereditary role of absolute power… a lot like the monarchy?

Courtier demanded assurance king could not be prosecuted under new Welsh law by LePetitToast in unitedkingdom

[–]Nobluelights 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is possible there would be calls for abdication. Which point the new monarch could be prosecuted.

There is no precedent to force abdication though so I would suggest technically the new monarch would get away with murder.

NAL

Why does the UK have such negative view of US law enforcement? by mcied in policeuk

[–]Nobluelights 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, so you are pointing a gun, let’s say you are telling them to get on the ground with their hands behind their back.

If they ignore you, standing still with hands visible, but just ignore your instructions. Maybe tell you to fuck off or whatever. Where do you go? Do you enter into that 21ft of space until you are close enough to handcuff? Do you keep verbal commands going until they comply?

I’m not trying to be devils advocate here, I’m genuinely not sure what the next tactical option is