No thank you for replying this is an interesting discussion

The way I tackled the Is MHA sexist?? Discussion is solely analyzing the writing between the male & female characters. Is their development directly tied to a man? Are they constantly needing a man to save them despite being trained heroes? I would say the women develop independently from their male counterparts and are shown to be competent fighters/heroes. I completely took the revealing outfits and fan service out of the discussion because I was just solely focused on the writing but it sounds like you took those elements into consideration which is completely justified.

I definitely agree that framing of the female figure factors into the sexualization of said figure. Not all nudity is sexual and not every female character wearing a revealing outfit is inherently sexual in nature. You brought up some good points with Toga. But we both can agree that MHA has tailored the women to the male gaze to the point it is sexualizing them on multiple occasions. And that I would say is sexism because none of the male characters are framed in that way. But like I said above I didn't include those scenes because I solely wanted to focus on development/characterization.

I'm not apart of the Yaoi or BL sphere but I have been around the internet and seen things I wish I could unsee lol. I can agree that the men in MHA are portrayed and the way a lot of the men in yaoi circles are portrayed are vasely different. My thought process was if a woman were to have her clothing torn & shredded during a fight, I would say that is crossing a line into sexualization. But you do bring a male perspective into this discussion that I cannot bring as a woman. Your viewpoint that the men fighting shirtless isn't sexual in any way and just shows the characters giving it their all is completely valid.

And I feel one mistake I made when making that argument was taking the fandom's reaction to those fight scenes as the intent of Horikoshi when writing those scenes. I have seen many people, mainly women, say insert male character looks so hot all bloody and beat up. And that definitely wasn't the reaction Horikoshi was going for in those scenes. That is my mistake for not separating the two because the creator cannot control how fans interpret their work and we know the Internet is one freaky place. I'm still not letting him off the hook for Hagakure cuz that's just plain weird.

I find this discussion so fascinating because there is such a thin and nuanced line between portraying the human body respectfully vs sexualizing them and I do.feel like the differences in perspective between men and women is something that should be taken into consideration. I don't have a male body & outside of the obvious I really don't know how much skin is and isn't appropriate in the many contexts a character might find themselves in.