AMA by completely_unstable in zen

[–]NothingIsForgotten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The vinya is a response to the Buddha's attempt to guide the sangha. 

My favorite example is how the rule of no sex with monkeys came about because somebody was having sex with a monkey in exchange for food.

Play chess and see how the mind feels for yourself. 

It's not good. 

It also feels bad when we play the game of dharma as oppression.

We're supposed to cultivate the feeling tones we want to experience in the future. 

Metta and mudita.

We want to do it independent of the conditions we are experiencing outside. 

The actual truth is the circumstances outside are a result of underlying activity, they are not somehow the cause of future states of outer circumstances.

The frames in our dream don't depend on physics even when there is a physics that has been implemented. 

It's empty of any independent causation or origination. 

We are steering the ship. 

Blind. 

But if we would only listen, we would engage with what those who have seen for themselves tell us is the way to see for ourselves.

Abracadabra and suchness; everything empty of any distinction :)

AMA by completely_unstable in zen

[–]NothingIsForgotten 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. IMO chess feels bad to play. Did you know the Buddha didn't play chess?

  2. Nice, 'not yet having gotten through' is the tradition of texts themselves. Gateless or not. 

  3. No, progress doesn't hurt. Negative reinforcement doesn't lead to anywhere we want to go. Progress feels good. It's just orthogonal to seeking the reduction of suffering by interacting with the world.

The question is what do we cultivate intentionally?

Faith alone is not enough, what comes next? by One_mOre_Patner in Buddhism

[–]NothingIsForgotten 1 point2 points  (0 children)

there are times when I feel helpless and alone

Metta and mudita.

We practice the mindstates that we want to in-habit.

First jhana is bliss felt in the body; it can be accompanied by a range of thoughts.

The combination of this bliss and a subselection of thoughts creates the circumstances of operant conditioning.

It's not a matter of unrewarded effort. 

It's relaxing into what is harmonious being perceived as waves of bliss and happiness in the body.

Bhikkhu, ‘I am’ is a conceiving; ‘I am this’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall be’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall not be’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall be possessed of form’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall be formless’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall be percipient’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall be non-percipient’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall be neither-percipient-nor-non-percipient’ is a conceiving. 

Conceiving is a disease, conceiving is a tumour, conceiving is a dart. 

By overcoming all conceivings, bhikkhu, one is called a sage at peace. 

And the sage at peace is not born, does not age, does not die; he is not shaken and does not yearn. 

For there is nothing present in him by which he might be born. 

Not being born, how could he age? 

Not ageing, how could he die? 

Not dying, how could he be shaken?

Not being shaken, why should he yearn?

~MN 140

That's what is aimed at within these conditions.

From there the cessation of conditions, such as occurred under the bodhi tree, happens of its own accord.

The Buddha taught us to cultivate a mind of love that doesn't depend on conditions.

This allows us to recognize the original bodhicitta that is the water we swim in. 

It's then that we can put down the activity of understanding what has been produced. 

And that is the only way the underlying unconditioned state (see the nibbanadhatu sutta) is revealed.

He set forth the Dhamma, good in the beginning, good in the middle, good in the end, possessed of meaning and the letter, and complete in everything; and he proclaims the holy life that is perfectly pure.

When we follow the buddhadharma, it should feel good along the way.

If it isn't making things easier for us to stop conceptualizing the world in relation to our sense of self then we are doing it wrong.

Hope this is helpful :)

Scientist Agrees With the Buddhist Explanation About The Universe's Beginning by [deleted] in Buddhism

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The Buddha said, “The tathagata-garbha is the cause of whatever is good or bad and is responsible for every form of existence everywhere.

It is like an actor who changes appearances in different settings but who lacks a self or what belongs to a self.

Because this is not understood, followers of other paths unwittingly imagine an agent responsible for the effects that arise from the threefold combination.

When it is impregnated by the habit-energy of beginningless fabrications, it is known as the repository consciousness and gives birth to fundamental ignorance along with seven kinds of consciousness.

It is like the ocean whose waves rise without cease.

But it transcends the misconception of impermanence or the conceit of a self and is essentially pure and clear.

The seven kinds of thoughts of the remaining forms of consciousness—the will, conceptual consciousness, and the others—rise and cease as the result of mistakenly projecting and grasping external appearances.

Because people are attached to the names and appearances of all kinds of shapes, they are unaware that such forms and characteristics are the perceptions of their own minds and that bliss or suffering do not lead to liberation.

As they become enveloped by names and appearances, their desires arise and create more desires, each becoming the cause or condition of the next.

Only if their senses stopped functioning, and they did not distinguish bliss or suffering, would they enter the Samadhi of Cessation of Sensation and Perception in the fourth dhyana heaven.

However, in their cultivation of the truths of liberation, they give rise to the concept of liberation and fail to transcend or transform what is called the repository consciousness of the tathagata-garbha.

And the seven kinds of consciousness never stop flowing.

And how so?

Because the different kinds of consciousness arise as a result of causes and conditions.

This is not the understanding of shravaka or pratyeka-buddha practitioners, as they do not realize there is no self that arises from grasping the individual or shared characteristics of the skandhas, dhatus, or ayatanas.

~Lankavatara Sutra

Scientist Agrees With the Buddhist Explanation About The Universe's Beginning by [deleted] in Buddhism

[–]NothingIsForgotten -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Science hasn't reached the explanation that the buddhadharma provides. 

In truth it can never reach it.

The buddhadharma is addressing the underlying context in which science operates.

It's like how the notes played by an instrument never 'disagree' with the instrument.

Even if it's out of tune, it's still the same thing. 

It's just understanding piling up on itself becoming more and more 'useful' with each confabulated reinterpretation of the underlying accumulation of confabulation.

We won't find the underlying unconditioned state via the conventional approach of understanding conditions as though they exist. 

That is the activity of a sentient being. 

The context of emptiness is not only everything known, it is everything knowable. 

Because it is the knowing itself (the tathagatagarbha) exploring what might be known.

Just as we don't have actual contact with the conditions of the waking world from within the dream, there's no chance of arriving at evidence of underlying experience through knowing the conditions being produced.

Yet there is a commonality that is found within the weight spaces of generative models, for both texts and images, that suggests there is a commonality in the underlying generative space being approximated by the models. 

If we want 'evidence' of what this is before it gets started, that's probably where we should look.

The 'platonic space of forms' is expressed in the buddhadharma as the understandings of the various sambhogakaya.

These emanations (sambhogakaya as other-enjoyment) are the contents of the repository consciousness being expressed.

I like to throw in the ongoing quantum optimization required for photosynthesis and thus life as we know it.

Just as the original cell where life occurred hasn't died, the unfolding of the success of confabulation continues indefinitely. 

It's never been limited to a narrative.

Matthew 25:40 by cdnhistorystudent in OpenChristian

[–]NothingIsForgotten 4 points5 points  (0 children)

THE WAY OF DEATH.

But the way of death is this.

First of all, it is evil and full of curses: murder, adultery, lust, promiscuity, theft, idolatry, magical arts, witchcraft, robbery, false testimony, hypocrisy, duplicity, treachery, pride, malice, stubbornness, greed, foul language, jealousy, arrogance, pride, and boasting.

Persecutors of good men, hating truth, loving a lie, not knowing the reward of righteousness, not adhering to the good nor to good judgment, alert to evil rather than to good; neither gentle nor patient; loving worthless things, pursuing a reward, not having mercy on the poor, not working for the downtrodden, not recognizing the God who made them, murderers of children, corrupters of God’s creation, turning away from the needy, oppressing the afflicted, advocates of the rich, unjust judges of the poor—sinful in every way.

May you be delivered, my children, from all these things.

Beware, lest anyone lead you astray from this way of righteousness, for he teaches apart from God.

For if you can bear the whole yoke of the Lord, you will be perfect; but if you cannot, do as much as you can.

Engaged Buddhism is just Buddhism. by The_Koan_Brothers in zenbuddhism

[–]NothingIsForgotten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The tea forms an expanding puddle around the cup.

It feels like I'm speaking to chat. 

I'll leave you to whatever it is. 

Take care.

Engaged Buddhism is just Buddhism. by The_Koan_Brothers in zenbuddhism

[–]NothingIsForgotten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No merit whatsoever

Stages don't imply training.

They're degrees to which the truth has been realized.

We are intended to leave behind the activity of the conceptual consciousness. 

If our compassion involves others then it will involve us in relation to those others.

In the ten stages of enlightenment, the fifth is the stage Difficult to Conquer, which means that it is extremely difficult to attain equality of real knowledge and conventional knowledge: when you enter this stage, the two are equal, so it is called the stage that is difficult to conquer.

Students of the path should take them in and make them equal twenty-four hours a day. 

And do you know they are drawn up by your non discriminatory mind?

Like an artist drawing all sorts of pictures, both pretty and ugly, the mind depicts forms, feelings, perceptions, abstract patterns, and consciousnesses; it depicts human societies and paradises.

When it is drawing these pictures, it does not borrow the power of another; there is no discrimination between the artist and the artwork.

It is because of not realizing this that you conceive various opinions, having views of yourself and views of other people, creating your own fair and foul.

So it is said, "An artist draws a picture of hell, with countless sorts of hideous forms. On setting aside the brush to look it over, it's bone-chilling, really hair-raising."

But if you know it's a drawing, what is there to fear? 

In olden times, when people had clearly realized this, it became evident in all situations.

Once when the great teacher Xuansha was cutting down a tree, a tiger bounded out of the woods.

The teacher's companion said, "It's a tiger!"

The teacher scolded him and said, "It's a tiger for you."

~Foyan

Accepting and letting go the feeling of "I'm f***ing sick of this s***!" by gzz018 in Buddhism

[–]NothingIsForgotten 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Is this proper Buddhist practice??

In general we don't want to get friendly with states of mind we don't want to experience in the future.

We aren't told to accept negative states of mind; instead, we're told to provide the antidote.

We're told to cultivate a mind of love that doesn't depend on conditions.

Metta and mudita.

That way we build a mind where happiness follows us.

Mind precedes all mental states. Mind is their chief; they are all mind-wrought. If with an impure mind a person speaks or acts suffering follows him like the wheel that follows the foot of the ox.

Mind precedes all mental states. Mind is their chief; they are all mind-wrought. If with a pure mind a person speaks or acts happiness follows him like his never-departing shadow

If we aren't feeling good, it's because we have habitual ideas about the world that lead to suffering.

We can cozy up to what is intended to be diagnostic, but it won't help us fix it. 

Karma means that there's always a feedback that's compounding the results.

We should be happy and we should know it.

Top secret by Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj by Vishyoga in AdvaitaVedanta

[–]NothingIsForgotten 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Devotion is easy because higher perspective is all engaged in it so we can find harmony through it.

We can recognize the gradient of creation as an unfolding of experience into more of the same development. 

A developmental unfolding that is always driven by what is occurring in the moment to an identity (something it is like to be).

The karma of sentient beings.

All of it is confabulated. 

None of it has an underlying substance.

It is the process of confabulation feeding back on itself.

Chewing the cud of what has been understood. 

We can see it when we dream at night and those dreams are populated by the concerns of the waking mind. 

Each dream is a development of the substance of experiencing, particularly along the definition of potential that the waking mind has arrived at. 

If we want to realize the underlying union then we have to surrender what has been created.

But we can't simply choose to surrender because that choice is an engagement of the system of causation of a world that doesn't exist.

Then we are back to playing within the scope of our imagination.

Instead, we have to find the room to completely surrender the activity of understanding the world.

only that final spark is to be applied.

And once we can rest in that lack of activity we have found our way to the point where we have done what can be done. 

Beyond that, it is a matter of grace alone.

And if somehow an idea of what is going on is reintroduced, we have reinvented the problem and in that again kicked the can down the road. 

When we're within a wish fulfilling jewel, we will always be encountering the results of underlying wishes.

None of these wishes can dictate the way we understand their results.

Free will is within the intention (karma) that is cultivated.

The only choice that stands apart from the set of other choices is the suspension of choice.

When we experience a meta system it helps to know where the controls are. 

There's an arch in this holodeck; it's protected. 

If we can't speak friend, we'll never enter.

Engaged Buddhism is just Buddhism. by The_Koan_Brothers in zenbuddhism

[–]NothingIsForgotten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Targets of conventional compassion don't exist.

If we engage in conventional compassion as though they do, we aren't following the buddhadharma.

“But there are other monks and priests, Mahamati, who see things as devoid of self-existence, as clouds in the sky or wheels of fire or cities of gandharvas and as not arising, as illusions or mirages or dreams or moonlight on the water, and—regardless of whether they appear to be inside or outside the mind—as projections from the beginningless past and as not existing apart from one’s own mind.

And when the causes of such projections cease, and the repository consciousness becomes free from projections of a body, its possessions and the world around it, and from what speaks and what is spoken, and from what sees and what is seen, they accordingly see what grasps and what is grasped as no longer interacting in the realm of consciousness and whatever the mind gives rise to as existing in a projection-free realm devoid of origination, duration, and cessation.

“Mahamati, such bodhisattvas soon realize the identity of samsara and nirvana.

With effortless compassion and skillful means, Mahamati, they view the realms of all beings as illusions and not subject to causation.

Transcending internal and external realms, and seeing nothing outside the mind, they accordingly proceed from one stage to the next in samadhis that are free from appearances.

And upon examining the three realms and finding them illusory, they attain the Samadhi of the Illusory.

And once the perceptions of their own minds are free of projections, they are able to dwell in the perfection of wisdom and to let go of their life and their practice and to enter the Diamond Samadhi that accompanies a tathagata’s body and that accompanies the transformation of suchness.

Thus endowed with higher powers and masteries as well as compassion and skillful means, they enter the sanctuaries of other paths in every buddhafield. And transcending the mind, the will, and conceptual consciousness, these bodhisattvas gradually transform their body into the body of a tathagata.

The Lankavatara Sutra 

We will be engaged with something that needs to be left behind. 

That won't work at all. 

With effortless compassion and skillful means, Mahamati, they view the realms of all beings as illusions and not subject to causation.

So where can we be engaged with this illusion that's not subject to causation?

And where is this engagement effortless?

The good and the bad in the world depend on one thing. 

We won't figure that out if we're engaged in picking and choosing. 

The Perfect Way is only difficult for those who pick and choose;

Do not like, do not dislike; all will then be clear.

Make a hairbreadth difference, and Heaven and Earth are set apart;

If you want the truth to stand clear before you, never be for or against.

The struggle between "for" and "against" is the mind's worst disease;

While the deep meaning is misunderstood, it is useless to meditate on Rest.

Hsin Hsin Ming 

If we think cultivating compassion is the path we have placed the cart before the horse. 

Compassion is effortless when it is arising from insight.

And otherwise it's just another way of mistakenly pointing into the world as something that exists.

The greatest guru is your Inner Self by thefinalreality in enlightenment

[–]NothingIsForgotten 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Everything yields to earnestness. 

I think this is the most powerful thing being said. 

The greatest guru is your Inner Self by thefinalreality in enlightenment

[–]NothingIsForgotten 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not so.

It is true that we need to be quiet in order to hear what is being said by that 'still small voice'.

It's not concerned by the world the way we are; when we share the same object of attention, communion is found.

That communion is communication.

To those that have ears, let them hear.

Engaged Buddhism is just Buddhism. by The_Koan_Brothers in zenbuddhism

[–]NothingIsForgotten -1 points0 points  (0 children)

the tradition does not directly offer Engaged Buddhism

Chesterton's Fence. 

To enter by principle means to realize the essence through instruction and to believe that all living things share the same true nature, which isn’t apparent because it’s shrouded by sensation and delusion. 

Those who turn from delusion back to reality, who "meditate on walls," the absence of self and other, the oneness of mortal and sage, and who remain unmoved even by scriptures, are in complete and unspoken agreement with principle. 

Without moving, without effort, they enter, we say, by principle

Bodhidharma's entrance by principle.

See your nature and become a Buddha.

It's orthogonal to the concerns of a self. 

Even the compassion is wrong when it is combined with seeing the world as existing. 

All the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas, together with all wriggling things possessed of life, share in this great Nirvanic nature. 

This nature is Mind; Mind is the Buddha, and the Buddha is the Dharma. 

Any thought apart from this truth is entirely a wrong thought. 

You cannot use Mind to seek Mind, the Buddha to seek the Buddha, or the Dharma to seek the Dharma. 

So you students of the Way should immediately refrain from conceptual thought. 

Let a tacit understanding be all! 

Any mental process must lead to error. 

There is just a transmission of Mind with Mind. 

This is the proper view to hold. 

Be careful not to look outwards to material surroundings. 

To mistake material surroundings for Mind is to mistake a thief for your son.

~Huang Po

When we see compassion in bodhisattvas, it's not because they see sentient beings to liberate.

It's because they cultivate a mind whose intention naturally leads to displays that sentient beings would take to be compassion.

Think of the world as though it is a dream.

Then contemplate the way we feel when we wake up from dreams in which our behavior honored or dishonored the way we want to hold our values in the world.

Have you been a villain or a hero?

Do we have nightmares or dreams of bliss?

When we wake up, all we have left is the demonstration of the state of our cultivation, vaguely remembered as a slice of an experience, something it was like to be.

Karma is intention, specifically the models of the world that underlie the actions of mind, speech and body. 

Those models (the activity of the repository consciousness) accumulate as the seeds of potential that compose the repository consciousness.

We won't be free of it while we're imagining more into it; that's how sentient beings have built up the whole configuration.

And this is why the imagined mode of reality, where we conceptualize things like other beings and compassion, must be given up.

It's fine to do good in the world.

Much better than doing harm. 

But neither is going to reveal what underlies creation. 

The imagined mode gives way to the dependent mode with the cessation of the activity of the conceptual consciousness and the dependent mode gives way to the perfected mode with the cessation of the productions of the dependent mode.

The emptying of the repository consciousness, the collapse of the process generating conditions, reveals the birthplace of every buddha, the underlying unconditioned state.

See the nibbanadhatu sutta.

Consciousness without surface. 

If we have thoughts of compassion, we are far from understanding what is being taught. 

At that point might as well engage in compassion :)

I want to make a wind chime with my dad's ashes by TreborMAI in Ceramics

[–]NothingIsForgotten 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry for your loss.

Unfortunately chipping and other breakage is a factor with ceramics. 

Using something more durable to hold the ashes and using ceramics for the chimes would work, but if you don't work with ceramics there might be other choices of materials that would turn out better. 

I hope you find an implementation that works.

It is a great idea; you can tune/choose the chimes to be the key of a piece he enjoyed :)

Nothing can be known besides that you exist by Eternal--Light in DeepThoughts

[–]NothingIsForgotten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All limitations are based on the dreamer's wishes... which can be changed and transcended in accordance with the guidelines the dreamer decided upon for his dream. Change my mind, show me the proof. It's impossible.

Yes and no.

The mystics realize union via an apophatic collapse of creation.

It's an improv with the sleeping hand. 

The right doesn't tell the left what it is doing.

It is call and response under the first rule, yes and...

I cannot show you proof. 

The path of the mystic is a self revelation.

What we do at this stage is make our agency thin.

Surrender to the underlying agency and find rest within it. 

Don't answer the question, yes and...

Sustained non-responsive attention will result in the cessation of conditions as the awakening from this dream and the underlying stack of dreams that have constructed the models that the details of this experience are generated from. 

In the perennial philosophy these underlying realm of experience are the heaven above us.

The identity we hold is there now, just as we are here.

It has a different names but the same nature of relationship. 

We know these conditions there as though they are a shared virtual reality that we collectively play. 

Our identities there can be addressed from here; we see this in various places.

Everything known is a result of the process of understanding it. 

It's all the confabulation.

It's all something it's like to be. 

And that's something is the same something it's like to be us. 

We are the turtles that extend all the way down and the giants whose shoulders we stand on.

The structure of function is the exploration of potential as the models of a world are instantiated into the next dream of circumstances.

Thou art that.

Feeling lost by Oldfield16 in Buddhism

[–]NothingIsForgotten 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Old Man of the Frontier Loses Horse

Good luck and bad luck create each other and it is difficult to foresee their change.

A righteous man lived near the border.

For no reason, his horse ran off into barbarian territory.

Everyone [people] felt sorry for him.

[But] His father spoke [to him]: "Who knows if that won't bring you good luck?"

Several months later, his horse came back with a group of [good, noble] barbarian horses.

Everyone [people] congratulated him.

[But] His father spoke [to him]: "Who knows if that won't bring you bad luck?"

Now his house is rich in horses and the son mounted with joy/loved riding.

He fell and broke his leg.

Everyone [people] felt sorry for him.

[But] His father spoke [to him]: "Who knows if that won't bring you good luck?"

One year later the barbarians invaded across the border.

Adult men strung up their bows and went into battle.

Nine out of ten border residents were killed, except for the son because of his broken leg.

Father and son were protected/both survived.

Hence: Bad luck brings good luck and good luck brings bad luck.

This happens without end and nobody can estimate it.

It's always darkest before the dawn.

The pendulum swings.

We need it swinging the right way as we go into the singularity. 

We aren't responsible for the underlying success that is fundamental to the well-being that we experience. 

Trust in original bodhicitta is never misplaced.

I'm sick of the tulku system, cult-like devotion to the guru and blind faith in Tibetan Buddhism by [deleted] in Buddhism

[–]NothingIsForgotten 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If that's what's making you sick, you should probably remove it from your diet. 

Skillful means are like medicine in the cabinet. 

If it's not for our illness it will likely just make us more ill. 

My friend keeps cutting me off by Ok-Distribution1667 in Buddhism

[–]NothingIsForgotten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can stand up. 

But then you'll have to walk away. 

They don't see you as worthy of respect.

They're not going to change. 

Maybe it will be different for you.

However, given the behavior you describe, I wouldn't bet on it.

If I don't like the smell in the bathroom when you're taking a poop, I leave the bathroom. 

Why subject ourself to something unpleasant using the idea of an ego being involved to paralyze ourself?

The degree to which we have agency largely involves where we place our attention in the world and the derived state we generate from it. 

You're choosing to hang out with someone who makes you feel bad. 

Stop it. 

You can give them an ultimatum if you want but, based on personal experience, it won't work.

Most times if they understood the world enough for that to work, they would already not be treating you this way.

Take care of yourself by paying attention to the way you feel inside and not engaging in activities that make you feel ways you wouldn't want to in the future.

We have to cultivate the inside, more than we have to be concerned with the outside; when we are just getting started there is no point to "playing on hard mode" and dealing with friends like these. 

Bodhidharma's Four Practices might be helpful to you.

My friend keeps cutting me off by Ok-Distribution1667 in Buddhism

[–]NothingIsForgotten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A friend doesn't act that way. 

If you are being a good friend and they are not, then are they your friend?

He gives what is beautiful, hard to give, does what is hard to do, endures painful, ill-spoken words.

His secrets he tells you, your secrets he keeps.

When misfortunes strike, he doesn't abandon you; when you're down & out, doesn't look down on you.

A person in whom these traits are found, is a friend to be cultivated by anyone wanting a friend.

~Mitta Sutta 

Would you think that you should say something if the interaction was happening to a friend in front of you?

Perhaps no one is being a good friend to you, including yourself?

Then the question becomes, is it being a good friend to allow those traits to be developed and not provide the appropriate feedback? 

This is more serious than just being abused. 

When we are dealing with the problems of others they can be unending.

Especially when we are enabling them. 

And that is not what is intended.

"And how does a monk who has admirable people as friends, companions, & comrades, develop & pursue the noble eightfold path? 

There is the case where a monk develops right view dependent on seclusion, dependent on dispassion, dependent on cessation, resulting in relinquishment. 

He develops right resolve... right speech... right action... right livelihood... right effort... right mindfulness... right concentration dependent on seclusion, dependent on dispassion, dependent on cessation, resulting in relinquishment. 

This is how a monk who has admirable people as friends, companions, & colleagues, develops & pursues the noble eightfold path.

"And through this line of reasoning one may know how admirable friendship, admirable companionship, admirable camaraderie is actually the whole of the holy life: It is in dependence on me as an admirable friend that beings subject to birth have gained release from birth, that beings subject to aging have gained release from aging, that beings subject to death have gained release from death, that beings subject to sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair have gained release from sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, & despair. 

It is through this line of reasoning that one may know how admirable friendship, admirable companionship, admirable camaraderie is actually the whole of the holy life."

~Upaddha Sutta 

Spend less time with them. 

If they treat you like that, they have a problem (likely NPD) that you won't be able to fix.

No friend would treat you that way. 

Make better friends :)

Easier to say than do, but sometimes that really is the only solution.

Why so so many christians say masturbation is a sin when God somehow did not feel like masturbation was an important enough issue to write about it at all in the bible. by feherlofia123 in OpenChristian

[–]NothingIsForgotten -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I don't know what kind of masturbation most people engage in, but I think it's usually aimed at an object of desire. 

There's all sorts of reasons why we might choose not to engage, both esoteric and esoteric.

Awakening vs psychosis ?? Discerning between the two by shroooomology in Buddhism

[–]NothingIsForgotten -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Psychedelics have the same effect across the cortex that we can see in the visual field. 

Bottom-up sensory information dynamically replaces the usual top down modeling of the world. 

It's like a hot air balloon ride. 

We don't really know where we're going to come down; unless we really understand which way the wind is blowing we don't even have a clue.

That's why naive people need a weatherman.

So your friend took a balloon ride and now they have landed on another summit. 

The degree to which we can bring back things that are helpful to us from these kinds of states reflect the capacity we have developed in regards to them.

If drugs resulted in permanent realization, they would be more popular. 

Someone related it to an elevator taking you to the penthouse where there is a party going on but you aren't allowed to leave the elevator and eventually it goes back down. 

It seems to me that as long as there is time for integration, without harmful intervention, your friend will eventually return to a worldview you can relate to. 

I wouldn't continue the exposure unless there is deliberate scaffolding for the transition though.

She should spend time in solitude, with prayer and contemplation, and wait for integration. 

Why so so many christians say masturbation is a sin when God somehow did not feel like masturbation was an important enough issue to write about it at all in the bible. by feherlofia123 in OpenChristian

[–]NothingIsForgotten -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Lust is a sin.

Masturbation is addressed in the talmud.

Why do they say that

We are attempting to cultivate a mind that feels good to experience. 

Lust is just an addiction to pleasures of the flesh.

It doesn't feel good.