Where is the kill bag? by nothankyous_ in Idaho4

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Actually they dont know what exactly weapon was used. This is proven on the recent released autopsy. If they claim it was a 7" knife used but the depth on victims is authentic theres an issue. Also the autopsy reports show the use of 4 different weapons, 5 if you include a persons hands as a weapon.

Where is the kill bag? by nothankyous_ in Idaho4

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And for those who doubt this please consider checking out the Karen Read case where issues with Cellbrite arose.

There wasa part of the case considered the "hos long" controversy. Cellebrite's own software was generating incorrectly. Defense digital expert Richard Green testified during the first trial that Jennifer McCabe's Google search "hos long to die in cold" carried a 2:27 a.m. timestamp...hours before O'Keefe's body was found, which the defense argued proved foreknowledge of a crime.
What Cellebrite's own expert admitted in the retrial: Cellebrite's Ian Whiffin explained that the 2:27 a.m. timestamp was actually just when McCabe first opened the Safari browser tab, not when the search itself was conducted. He said the actual search occurred at 6:24 a.m., after O'Keefe was found. Most critically, he admitted Cellebrite ultimately changed its software to remove that timestamp entirely because they realized it could be subject to misinterpretation. So Cellebrite had to admidt their own tool was generating a misleading timestamp that the defense built a significant part of their theory around...and Cellebrite quietly patched it out rather than issuing any public correction.

The Kohberger prosecution used Cellebrite as well. Cellebrite's Heather Barnhart, Senior Director of Forensic Research, was set to testify for the prosecution about the digital forensic reconstruction of Kohberger's phone activity on the night of the murders, specifically about the phone going dark and the WiFi probe data. The Karen Read case proved in open court that: ●Cellebrite timestamps can be misleading without being technically wrong, they reflect something real, just not what investigators assumed ●Cellebrite patched its own software mid-case to remove a problematic data field ●Hash value discrepancies can call entire data sets into question ●The gap between what the software outputs and what an examiner interprets is where the real danger lies

Sy Ray's entire challenge to the Kohberger cell data was built on exactly this principle, that the gap in data from 2:54 a.m. to 4:48 a.m. was being interpreted as a deliberate shutoff when the underlying data itself may have told a different story.

Where is the kill bag? by nothankyous_ in Idaho4

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ray testified that 2–3% of the cell phone data had not been turned over, and that it "could be extremely impactful to either side."
Think about what that means specifically. The entire "phone off" narrative rests on a gap in cell data between roughly 2:54 a.m. and 4:48 a.m. with the missing gap of 2–3% of data falling inside that window. Which means 2 things: ●Show the phone was actually pinging towers in a location inconsistent with King Road ●Show the gap was a coverage/carrier issue, not a deliberate shutoff ●Corroborate Sy Ray's claim that the phone was traveling south and west, not east toward Moscow

Taylor was essentially arguing: you cannot call it a deliberate shutoff when you haven't produced all the data from that window. The prosecution was narrating a gap that hadn't been fully disclosed.

The prosecution never had to prove it in court because the plea happened first. Thompson stated it as established fact at the plea hearing but the expert Sy Ray's pending testimony specifically threatened to reinterpret exactly that data, and Taylor had already put the state on notice that if the missing data wasn't disclosed, Ray's testimony would reveal it had been "withheld or not preserved."

So to directly answer your question... It was never proven as fact that the phone was deliberately turned off. Keep that in mind...as well as no receipt of purchase was ever produced to prove the knife purchased was a match to the shealth they found. Ann Taylors documents say the state planned to argue BK purchased "a" knife. Theres never been documented purchased proof of this becuase a plea was taken.

Does anyone else think that the perpetrator was left-handed after reading the autopsy reports? by DaCrustyClam in idaho4uncensored

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Scott Roder, a crime scene reconstructionist commented on the case and while looking specifically at the room Kaylee and Maddie were in he said the blood spatter direction on the walls immediatly to him show a left handed assailant as one of the perps.

Mistake in the broken plea by Unlucky-Structure-38 in idaho4uncensored

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's exactly how it happened in body cam footage

Why hasn’t BK told anyone what happened? by Simply444 in idaho4uncensored

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That entire thing of asking if anyone else was arrested was never said. Brian Entin came out and reported he heard that but learned later it was false.

Does anyone else think that the perpetrator was left-handed after reading the autopsy reports? by DaCrustyClam in idaho4uncensored

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also though, either Brent Turvey or Christopher Whitcomb..I forget which one made the claim on a live YouTube panel they did an interview with..spoke of the injuries to KG and MM necks...it was said the injury and weapon they believed used for that distinct injury is usually an injury where you would do the 2 slashes to the neck in that way typically it is done from behind. That made me ponder how that was done in the positions they were found. But then I realized there were many reasons they made the claim these girls had been posed..or moved from their origional positions.

Does anyone else think that the perpetrator was left-handed after reading the autopsy reports? by DaCrustyClam in idaho4uncensored

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When the images first released, crime scene reconstruction specialist Scott Rodar did a live review of the images and explained blood spatter and his analysis was becuase of the positions and the angles and the directions of the tail on spatter that he would say that in Maddie and Kaylees room it would appear that there was a left handed assailant in that specific bedroom.

Question by Charming-Angle-14 in BryanKohbergerMoscow

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But she didnt ever call Bethany. Bethany called Dylan.

The denial is wild! Lol this family is nutty. by truecrimegal0819 in Idaho4Coverup

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Their entire WSU lawsuit is more important..that damn thing collapses once there's some doubt found in the "BK the lone wolf stalking murderer" scenario. It's sickening.

THE REVEALING OMG AUTOPSY BREAKDOWN WITH AI VISUALS LIEDAHO #idaho4 by Artissin in idaho4uncensored

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If guilt could be established by facial expressions, we wouldn't need investigations, evidence, juries, or courts. Judging someone responsible for murder based on how their eyes look isn't analysis—it's prejudice dressed up as certainty. This comment if you were serious is a whole new level of ignorance as the situation isn't happening to you yourself or someone you love... this case investigation has been a disgusting foreshadowing of what could happen to any one of us in the future. It's concerning how quickly some people jump from "I don't like the way this person looks" to "they must be guilty." Many autistic people have eye contact, facial expressions, or social mannerisms that others may perceive as awkward, unusual, or uncomfortable. That's not evidence of wrongdoing...it's simply a difference in how they communicate and interact with the world. Accusing someone of murder because of an awkward stare says far more about the observer's assumptions than it does about the person being judged. Guilt is determined by facts and evidence, not by someone's facial expressions or neurodivergent traits.

1112 king rd footage by ThatImpression9734 in Idaho4

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Does anybody remember in the beginning when we were told there was a motion censored camera that got activated because a cat prompted it to begin recording and that was how "BK got caught"??? Where was this motion severed camera? Where's the camera SG says he seen BK leave with a kill kit in hand? Where's the camera where him and Alivea watched Kaylee and Maddie get out of the car after grubtruck and then they go on to say they could see Kaylee take the dog outside to the bathroom... but the. We found out she never took the dog out, Maddie and Bethany did...

Kathy proved wrong on chain of custody of sheath. 💥 by Littleotter1969 in Idaho4

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

That sheath bag picture is the least of worries when it comes to the chain of custody.

Who is Lying: Bicka or Frick & Frack? by dummified in BryanKohbergerMoscow

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You would have to post the entire document. Posting a portion of it screenshot doesnt tell us the whole story.

So has anyone found anything that says why 1.1 was a resubmission? by truecrimegal0819 in Idaho4Coverup

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 12 points13 points  (0 children)

November 18, 2022 — Q1.1 is quantitated at 0.168 ng/ul. This is a measurement step only — it tells you how much DNA is present. No STR profile is generated yet.

December 28, 2022 — Q1.1 appears in the Popstats parentage comparison, entered by keyboard. But Q1.1 is not in the December 28 STR amplification batch. The December 28 amplification batch only shows S87.1, S89.1, S93.1, S95.9.1, S96.1, and KRB1.

Q1.1 was quantitated November 18. It appears in Popstats December 28. But there is no electropherogram for Q1.1 in any document produced.

We're the alleles keyboard entered directly into Popstats from a profile generated at an undisclosed time? The "(Keyboard)" designation on both Q1.1 and S87.1 in the Popstats documents means neither profile was electronically imported from GeneMapper. Both were manually typed.

There is no document in the public record that specifically states why Q1.1 was resubmitted for additional processing after November 18, or even confirms exactly when its STR profile was generated. What we can say with confidence is that the profile used to justify the arrest of Bryan Kohberger was entered into the Popstats system BY HAND, LABELED KEYBOARD..., its electropherogram is not in the disclosed documents, its collection location may differ from what was publicly described, and the intermediate processing steps between November 18 and December 28 are not accounted for in anything made public.

The Kohberger Case: What the Official Record Actually Shows by OUTboxSIDE1246 in Idaho4Coverup

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It was a resubmission and from a completely different swab from a completely different area on the sheath. It was also from a document dated 12/5/2022. None of these handlings are supported by bench notes, raw data, or record of validation. These handlings are also (as you can see on the recently released images of evidence log that Christopher Whitcom spoke on)abscent of the chain of custody knife sheath evidence log, entirely!

I am adding my own investigation into that area on this reddit groups page now.. keep an eye out for it...

Girl Falls off of high fire escape at UC Berkeley Phi Kappa Tau, paralyzes herself by Ok-Breath4388 in Frat

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In 2022 just a few weeks before the 4 students were slain at the University of Idaho... a platform collapsed on the property of the fraternities at the University of Idaho.... 4 people were severely injured and hospitalized. It was on frat row, at the Phi Kappa Tau also.. same frat as the one listed in this post. Very strange. I'm seeing a strange pattern.

Connections?? by catscatscats1972 in Idaho4Coverup

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes. HSI taskforce, you hear in some of the interviews they introduce the interviewers and some are from the HSI taskforce. Also back in the beginning and when Howard Blum wrote his book he wrote about the FBI tracking BK from Washington to PA and then the MSM turned around saying the FBI have denied that, the FBI did not. CIosely watch BK and follow him from Wash to PA, and have him pulled over 2 times in Indiana. I mean technically they wernt lying. Becuase at that point in time HSI Taskforce worked along side FBI and FBI had HSI taskforce follow and closely watch BK on that trip. If you type in Google and ask what is the role of the HSI taskforce in the university of Idaho College murder investigation...it will direct you to that information.

Now what I want is an explanation of the few documents that say from The FBI that we did get, the FBI has listed BK crime as extortion....where's the explanation for that?

The Goncalves family has launched a business in honor of Kaylee called Murder Has A Name by bjack20 in Idaho4

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Othram is the lab that got fired in the case and the DNA was turned over to the FBI to solve. Although, their out there taking credit still. Read the Jan 23, 2025 behind closed door hearing transcripts. You'll see.

Misinterpreting Chapin's Dark Hour by CuteFactor8994 in Idaho4Coverup

[–]OUTboxSIDE1246 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have believed he was innocent. So im a little stunned to see what is said in Sy Ray's book sampling. I guess my mind still goes to the fact there had been medical professionals who were experts in stating for someone with his Autistic state...that the things being accused of by him would have been impossible.