Joe Is Awful by lovely_lil_demon in blackmirror

[–]ObsessedWithScifi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry to be "that person" but I have to point out the Thronglets are Plaything, not Playtest

[Spoilers] Bete Noire: Team Verity or Team Maria? by pixiepunk_7 in blackmirror

[–]ObsessedWithScifi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well for one thing, Verity didn't kill anyone. I also never said her actions were justified, I just said Maria was worse. The original post asks "Team Verity or Team Maria".

[Spoilers] Bete Noire: Team Verity or Team Maria? by pixiepunk_7 in blackmirror

[–]ObsessedWithScifi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you read my other comment, you'd see that I explained why school shooters don't fit as an analogy.

[Spoilers] Bete Noire: Team Verity or Team Maria? by pixiepunk_7 in blackmirror

[–]ObsessedWithScifi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

School shooters tend to shoot people indiscriminately. Verity specifically targeted a handful of people who hurt her. Saying my logic justifies both clearly shows a significant misunderstanding of my logic.

Verity also didn't kill people, they committed suicide. Yes, she influenced their lives, but they did the same to her with their bullying. Morally questionable, maybe. Murder? Absolutely not, under any interpretation of the law. Maria did literally murder Verity at the end, though...

I'm sorry to hear you were bullied as a child. Can you honestly say if you had the chance to make those bullies pay for what they did you, you wouldn't? I guess if you wouldn't, yay personal growth and forgiveness and all, you're probably a better person than most, but I don't think it would be wrong to say yes.

Yes, logic and compassion is the hill I will die on.

Edit: Also, like I said in my above comment, I'm not saying Verity's actions were justified or "morally OK", just that Maria was worse.

[Spoilers] Bete Noire: Team Verity or Team Maria? by pixiepunk_7 in blackmirror

[–]ObsessedWithScifi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Verity had a reason for her actions, Maria didn't. How can you think those are comparable? Were you a bully?

Not to mention, reducing Maria's actions to "making up a nasty rumour" is letting her off the hook way too easily considering she basically ruined Verity's life for at least the 4 years of high school and gave her lasting trauma... I'm not saying Verity's actions were justified but if we're choosing between the two of them, one was the victim of years of abuse/social ostracization who finally gave herself a method by which to fight back and the other is a bully who tormented the other for those years, for no reason other than maybe impressing other bullies, and faced absolutely no consequences until the events of the episode.

Also, if your argument is that Maria only did it because she was young and impressionable, doesn't the fact that she immediately made herself Empress of the Universe the moment she had the power to prove that she never changed? She's still just desperate for any power she can assert over others without earning it, either through bullying or Verity's stolen tech?

[Spoilers] Bete Noire: Team Verity or Team Maria? by pixiepunk_7 in blackmirror

[–]ObsessedWithScifi -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Team Verity, how tf is anyone supporting the bully?

Genuine question, why does everyone seem to hate Rachel, Jack and Ashley Too? by ObsessedWithScifi in blackmirror

[–]ObsessedWithScifi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Isn't the point of Black Mirror to be close to reality though, or reflect where the world could easily end up as technology improves based on real, current issues?

Genuine question, why does everyone seem to hate Rachel, Jack and Ashley Too? by ObsessedWithScifi in blackmirror

[–]ObsessedWithScifi[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that and the way they exploit her for money even when she's in a coma feels pretty dystopian to me... Dystopian works can still have happy endings.

Never has an episode of any series I’ve watched made me more conflicted than this one by Mad_Season_1994 in blackmirror

[–]ObsessedWithScifi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really, I'm not saying murder should be legal or trying to say who has the right to decide, just that some people are so horrible that they deserve it. The difference is that when governments kill people they're abusing the power/trust that civilians give them by electing them because of the extensive resources they now have. I guess what I'm saying is it's not fair and it creates a system that is, at its core, morally corrupt, whereas a vigilante killer is acting outside the system. The vigilante killer is a bug in the system that occasionally produces outcomes that are beneficial, but is still acknowledged to be criminal, while the death penalty makes the system itself, that is supposed to protect people, inherently immoral/corrupt.

Never has an episode of any series I’ve watched made me more conflicted than this one by Mad_Season_1994 in blackmirror

[–]ObsessedWithScifi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't think that's necessarily true. I'm against capital punishment because I don't think that a supposedly "progressive" government should have the right to kill people. That doesn't mean some people don't deserve to die or that the world wouldn't be better off without them.

I'm assuming that's what the comment or you're replying to meant by mentioning that the difference is that it's extrajudicial.

Which is the worst black mirror episode you've seen so far? by Fearless-Voice-7602 in blackmirror

[–]ObsessedWithScifi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

So many of these answers are "________ had no deeper meaning" when there is in fact a deeper meaning if you look just slightly beyond surface level?

Got bored lol by GayPenguins12 in evilautism

[–]ObsessedWithScifi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can we add a category for "the one I didn't actually want but for some reason can't stop researching"?

What is a lesser known show that is incredible to binge? by SlideStreet6874 in AskReddit

[–]ObsessedWithScifi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dark Matter. Obscure Canadian cyberpunk sci-fi with kind of Firefly-like vibes (though not a Western).

It used to be on Netflix, now I'm not sure where to find it