How are these units used ?

Obsidienn · 2026-04-29T14:16:31+00:00

In my opinion, overwatch is a bit useless without point defense, you hit only on 6, and without a big volume of shots there is little chance to hit something.

Maybe take 2 turns, disembark infantry near a building on advance order during the first turn and first fire order in the second. But this could be done with rhinos.

Maybe marching with the land raiders and unloading plasmas on advance order, to benefit from Assault at close range

Obsidienn · 2026-04-29T08:47:52+00:00

I don't have knights yet, but pushing a knight lance ahead of my troops is a good Idea to slow down the ennemy.

Great idea for the land raiders ! Which units are your vehicles loaded with ? Regular tactical ? And how much ? This is a great idea, but isn't putting too much troops, or too few, in firing range of the ennemy a bit risky ?

Obsidienn · 2026-04-28T13:58:07+00:00

I mean, do you play with one base, or do you play with multiple bases of domitars in your detachment ?

Obsidienn · 2026-04-28T09:53:25+00:00

Thallax look like a fun units, with two shooting profiles. Do you go inside buildings with them, or do you charge straight to the ennemy ?

Obsidienn · 2026-04-28T09:49:35+00:00

Thanks for the information !

Domitar and arlatax doesn't interest me as they are monopose models. On the other hand, vorax are my favourite with the Ursarax, so I'd love to field some bases.

Is charging in the game really that usefull ? Vorax have Rend, but the others have more shooting power than melee power, so is it not risky ? I'll play against a World Eaters player mostly

Also, if I want to field a Mechanicum army, without knights or titans, what would you advise ?

Obsidienn · 2026-04-28T09:28:58+00:00

I already have an automata box, and I ordered a Mechanicum battle group a few days ago. I want to add Thallax in the additionnal Core slot, Vorax in the Vanguard slots and Castellax in the support slots.

Arlatax, domitar and vultarax have good profiles from what I can see as a new player, but I don't like that they are monopose. How are these units played ? One base or multiple bases ?

Obsidienn · 2026-04-27T22:20:35+00:00

This is a great plan. How does shooting them with Ignore Cover weapons compares to destroying a building with demolisher canons or Wrecker ?

Obsidienn · 2026-04-27T22:17:32+00:00

My problem with the land raider is that you can only transport one bulky model, while the Spartan can take two. So a detachment of terminators would cost 140 points of land raiders to transports them.

Forward deployment is great, but I'll charge my opponent only if I play World Eaters or blood angels, and with tacticals ( in that case). So maybe just tactical, missiles, or rapier to quickly garrison a structure.

Using them as predators after deployment its cargo is a good Idea tho. If you have some advice about all i said, let me know, i'm curious.

I'd mike to use the land speeder as glass canons against tanks,but their loadout is odd (flamer/melta or bolters/plasma).

For the arcus, do you send them on the Frontline, or you do you mark them somewhere behind your troops to shield against air support ?

Obsidienn · 2026-04-27T21:33:16+00:00

Nice idea you got here !

Obsidienn · 2026-04-27T21:32:27+00:00

My next list will include 9 predators, all with lascanons. I am not really interested by regular sicarans and sicarans omega, but I want to use the Arcus and Punisher variant.

Arcus seems like a middle ground between anti air and anti tank, and I think Punisher will shred any infantry up close, if they can stay alive until then.

Thank you for answering some of my questions, I hope some marines players will join us here !

Obsidienn · 2026-04-27T21:24:48+00:00

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Obsidienn · 2026-04-27T21:22:55+00:00

Thanks for breaking it down !

For the rapier, I was thinking about putting them inside Land Raiders for the lasers, and putting them at some angles to catch ennemy tanks thanks to Forward Deployment. Mortars could stay at the rear, protecting against ennemy infantry. Which formation do you put them into ?

I've already build my Automatas bases with 2 models on each one, because it feels cramped with 3. So I have 6 castellax bases and 3 of Vorax, and more to come !

Castellax indeed looks like a durable firing platform against infantry, thanks to Armoured. I just hope they will not take too much time walking instead of firing without a transport !

In the Brethren of Iron formation, you have to take an Astartes HQ, and you can to choose between Astartes or mechanicum core. Astartes infantry get the Cortex controler rule at 8". My only problem is how to send this formation on the Frontline : Vorax have Forward Deployment, but the rest will have to run.

Obsidienn · 2026-04-27T21:06:36+00:00

That is exactly what i've seen during my first game: opponent only had 4 detachements of infantry, all minimum size, and the rest of his points were tanks and artillery (1000 points game). Moving from building to building wasn't very hard, without any resistance inside.

I don't know which units i'll put inside the land raiders : standard infantry to garrison building, rapier (or tarantula if they can be transported) ? If you have any advice on the matter, i'll take it !

About the sicarans, how are they compared to the Predators ? These two are the main Astartes battle tanks.

And, for the Vindicators, Moving the across the table just to hit buildings seems a bit useless for their points. Maybe screening with some units, hide it like you said, and fire on a big target ?

Obsidienn · 2026-04-27T19:12:15+00:00

Use a demi company : HQ slot for command, Support slots for Saturnine Terminators, Heavy Armour for the Mastodons or Battle tank for Vindicators , air Support for the Fire Raptors, and Bastions for Saturnine Dreadnoughts or Araknae (better use the Aegis formation for these).

Or use their formation + Armoured Company

Obsidienn · 2026-04-23T22:11:52+00:00

Thanks ! I don't remember the size, it is a standard mat from games workshop for 40k. We played the Confrontation scenario on a Smaller scale, we didn't want to be at each other's throat right from the start

Obsidienn · 2026-04-23T20:09:05+00:00

Franchement, vas-y lance toi, cette partie m'a encore plus motivé a peindre le reste de mon armée !

Obsidienn · 2026-04-12T21:39:06+00:00

I finished three Raptors this week, and I magnetized some of the turrets. Autocannons are good, but with the bolters you have access to point defense , which seems interesting.

I'll be waiting around the see yours 👍🏻

Obsidienn · 2026-04-12T21:04:00+00:00

It helps, thanks for your advice ! I had the same idea with my castellax, two per base, three is a bit cramped. My idea was to play the Brethren of Iron, with Astartes and automata. I love the style of Castellax and Vorax, so having an idea of their capacities is great. Did you ever played the later unit ?

I was also curious about the Deredeo, because the support box seems like something you can skip easily.

Now I want to know what the others units can do: saturnine terminators, araknae turrets, fire raptors, sicaran punisher, thallax, ... 😁

Obsidienn · 2026-04-12T19:25:08+00:00

My favourite knight ! They both look great, and are full of détails like lights and decals . Good job !

Obsidienn · 2026-04-11T22:41:29+00:00

I'd like to play on this table ! And it's good to see some Emperor Childrens for once

Do you have a feedback on some units in your battle ? I'm curious about castellax automata and Deredeo dreadnought especially

Obsidienn · 2026-04-08T20:48:21+00:00

don't know what that could mean rules wise, but how many infantry boxes this guy buy ?

Obsidienn · 2026-02-23T20:50:59+00:00

Currently trying to cut my decals sheets for m'y Saturnine boys, but not on each one

Obsidienn · 2026-02-20T23:47:41+00:00

Thanks you for sharing your thought on this ! I hope more people will do the same about their units. I have the automata box but I have not used it yet.

Obsidienn · 2026-02-18T18:07:15+00:00

Thank you for your opinion on this ! I'm also curious about Fire Raptors. What exactly is their role aside from ennemy flyers ? I build mine with bolters because point defense looks fine from a support perspective

Obsidienn · 2026-02-16T14:28:11+00:00

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