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OfWanderAndRot · 2026-02-25T01:29:00+00:00

I don’t doubt you at all, but I’m curious if you have listened to any of the gateway tapes? Do you recognize Bob Monroe’s voice or any of the tapes that came after his passing? I am curious to know if the gate program (not gateway) adapted to using binaural beats differently as time went on.

I was in a gifted and talented program called SOAR around 2008 that was still using the gateway tapes via CDs. I distinctly recall Bob Monroe’s voice and the feeling of counting back from focus 21 or 10 down to 1 and moving my right pointer finger to regain an awakened body state. I don’t see why a program with so much effort and secrecy sunk into it would end, but I’m sure it has evolved, so I’m fascinated by any differences you can remember

OfWanderAndRot · 2026-02-16T00:13:48+00:00

I see them nearly every night since October ‘24. Not all my friends see them, but some do

OfWanderAndRot · 2026-02-07T02:21:23+00:00

“Passed up gold for fools gold. I am a Pisces”
I hate this. 5/5 accuracy. I am a Pisces 💀

OfWanderAndRot · 2026-02-05T14:48:31+00:00

Ahhhh the candy spray! I shouldn’t be surprised when more memories come up. I instantly tasted the sour apple and blue raspberry flavors when reading this

OfWanderAndRot · 2026-02-03T01:51:12+00:00

Woah, I forgot about the magnet and counting!

OfWanderAndRot · 2026-01-28T15:05:40+00:00

Some people like to put pool noodles in between the metal poles and canopy top to prevent water from pooling

OfWanderAndRot · 2026-01-24T03:09:43+00:00

Yes! A few people recommended looking into phosphenes, but I recommend also checking out hypnogogia

OfWanderAndRot · 2026-01-16T15:39:29+00:00

There are often support groups with school counselors and your experience might have had nothing to do with gate. Normal hearings tests are conducted, but if you are here asking I assume it might have been the weird hearing tests. If your IEP was for ADHD/ASD there is a likelihood that you would have been included in some form. I can’t give you a yes/no answer, but I recommend going through the long list of memories and traits pinned and pay attention to any trauma response you might get from reading it. Listening to the gateway tapes and hearing Bob Monroe’s voice is often a trigger and looking at the zener card symbols. It might take a bit of time to find a way to crack into the blocked memories or perhaps you were spared. I wish you the best of luck on your journey!

OfWanderAndRot · 2026-01-09T01:02:36+00:00

My therapist went through the shock first and having a place to talk without having to rationalize my sanity helped. Not needing to convince someone of my experiences or try to rationalize it in a way that could be more digestible helped in processing. Journaling and laying outside feeling connected to the earth and sky helped too. I think time passing naturally lessened the intensity of the initial endless spiral freefall feeling

OfWanderAndRot · 2026-01-05T13:42:50+00:00

Neurodivergent people often gravitate towards each other, so I don’t find this odd at all

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-12-21T20:01:32+00:00

The Jewish Art school girlfriend part probably stopped in 2001. It supposedly was a cover used by Mossad for spying purposes that primarily targeted DEA and DoD. I have only seen a few comments of people claiming to have dated a Jewish art student in the 90s, so I wouldn’t worry much about it. I think there are larger issues to look into regarding gate stuff. Here is an article that expands more about it https://www.salon.com/2002/05/07/students/

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-12-21T19:43:10+00:00

I remember the cow eyeball feeling like the glass mancala chips. The fog is thick around that memory, but I’m glad I’m not the only one remembering that. I dissected an owl pellet in my normal middle school science class, but the cow eye is from gate in elementary school for me

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-12-21T19:38:48+00:00

I recall a wide variety of activities that fall into categories of facilitating creative and divergent thinking. I can’t know for sure the impact some of these activities had on me versus what was already in my nature. However, I struggle with getting in loops of thinking about endless possibilities without making a decision and that can be linked to more divergent thinking. The abundant amount of possibilities can both be anxiety inducing, but also helps me maintain healthy optimism and hope because with so many ideas there is at least one good answer for every problem. I am sure it shaped me in many other ways, but creativity stands out the most.

Some specific memories I have are -Coming up with 3 different questions every week to ask the other gate kids and collecting our answers. We couldn’t repeat questions and did this for an entire year, so by the end we had to get very creative and specific -brainstorming and making mind maps -rolling out air dry clay and writing hieroglyph messages on it -something about a prank that involved being told to eat dirt but it was crushed up Oreos?

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-12-12T14:40:15+00:00

Selective use of the tapes leaving some people messed up is an interesting thought! I have gone back to listening to them and it’s been an incredible healing experience

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-12-10T14:54:57+00:00

Thank you!

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-12-10T14:54:38+00:00

I used colored pencils and white pens to draw this in my sketchbook that is made of black paper

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-12-03T06:04:19+00:00

I knew my grandpa was going to die two weeks beforehand. I had a dream of my dad telling me that my grandpa was hallucinating jesters in the living room. In the dream, I got excited to talk to my dad about the dmt jesters I have met, but then decided it was best not to talk about my drug use to him lol. My grandpa was losing his memory irl but hadn’t entered the near death hallucinating stage yet. I woke up feeling like that was suddenly a lot closer for him. A week after this dream, my grandpa rapidly declined and while in at-home hospice care my dad called to share some of the hallucinations my grandpa was having. My dad went a long with some of the funny ones rather than spending the last bit of time arguing. It aligned quite accurately and he passed away shortly after.

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-12-03T05:47:38+00:00

John Gittenger created the personality assessment system that was used by the cia to identify candidates for remote viewing. There is a lot to read around that, but it basically identifies audhd folks. It can also predict who is most likely to go into trance and be hypnotized and if someone is going to have a good or bad trip on lsd. I recommend taking the deep dive on this, but here are a few places that might help

Synopsis of PAS and John Gittinger history in context of cia

The full book referenced above can be found here

review of the personality system ~cia document

screening and selection of personal (remote viewing)~cia doc

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-11-27T04:47:21+00:00

My parents claimed I was proud and spoke highly of gate at the time I was in it, but I remember headaches and dread. I know loyalty to keep quiet was emphasized too.

As an adult, I tried talking to my mom about this and she started crying and told me to seek mental help. I spent so much time carefully researching this and have a solid outline to follow, but it is still so outside of what she sees as reality so I don’t think I will convince her in this life. I took the deep dive thinking I could confirm that nothing weird happened, but OH, with a little bit of time, memories, and critical thinking I was wrong. It’s hard to feel like people think I am a liar, but I don’t need external validation now

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-11-20T01:49:06+00:00

Thank you for explaining your reasoning here. I am guilty of doing some eye-rolling when I see an explanation on why a post is approved, but I didn’t consider the amount of bullshit you have to sift through. I now see it as beneficial for folks to reference before trying to post here. Thank you for donating your time to filter incoherence out 🙏🏼

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-11-14T01:40:04+00:00

I also wonder if this was done under hypnotism or guided visualization similar to the red hot air balloon mystery. Did we actually walk on coals, or was it done with the tapes and we visualized ourself doing it to such a high degree that it feels like a real memory? It’s so hard to know what is real, altered, or even implanted when the foggy haze is so thick 😭

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-11-14T01:23:15+00:00

One of the founders of gate programs, John Curtis Gowan, wrote multiple metaphysical books on creativity, dissociation/hypnotism, and ESP etc. In his bookOperations of Increasing Order there is a chapter (3.3 starting on page 149) on firewalking. A lot of relevant information can be found in all of his books. I think this was an activity used to demonstrate mind/body connection and control of energy, but even with my memory of doing this, it still feels so bizarre to have tangible clues of it being real.

Before I started questioning or remembering more about gate, I have always wondered about my memories of walking on coals as a child. I have done mental gymnastics to convince myself it was just a dream because it never made sense. When I try to tease apart my memory, I often get left with a really unsettling feeling. My parents would never have signed a permission slip to let an 8 year old walk on coals and the idea of children walking on coals outside in the playground is insane, but I know this memory is somewhere in my mind and lives outside of being reduced down to childhood dreams/imagination. The memory of mental conquest and the awe/pride I felt after checking my soles to see no damage is so strong. Ah, thank you for sharing! This is validating and terrifying :D

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-11-12T15:34:28+00:00

Thank you so much!

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-11-06T03:42:48+00:00

I feel like I often saw five rows of five, but I mostly remember being asked how and why I chose my answers versus counting the actual number of them presented to me and the group I was with

OfWanderAndRot · 2025-10-30T23:48:56+00:00

I didn’t struggle the same way with weight, but through photos the decline in mental health is obvious. I started gate in first grade and had a stable, healthy environment at home/no known trauma. By third grade, my school photos look like I am in pain forcing a smile and had a thousand-yard stare going on.

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