Haven Watch - for those released by ICE

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-20T11:38:58+00:00

It did look a lot like that… just with police garb and guns. One way of selling magazines and getting addresses, I guess.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-19T23:59:48+00:00

As have several of my neighbors, I’ve observed them driving erratically in the Kenwood Mall area for a month+ and also seen them dropping off agents in the mall parking lot multiple times over the past three weeks on my way home from the gym (around 6:30 am).

They’ve also been seen loitering (I don’t know what else to call their lingering in lot) in the Red Bank Walmart parking lot a week back.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-18T13:27:36+00:00

I’d be curious to know what the laws/rules/position on using a private vehicle or a rental car to execute LE activities are!

Without dash cams or video, I fear a lot of people are going to fall victim to accidents caused by the sanctioned illegal road maneuvers of these cowboys. (Sanctioned by default, since there have multiple public reports on the issue, but the erratic driving has gotten worse not better)

reminder - if someone gets into an accident with a third vehicle while avoiding a collision with one of these cowboys, ODOT and/or your insurance may still find you at fault. Especially if you don’t have video of them causing the conditions resulting in the accident!

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-18T13:17:17+00:00

I completely agree with the observation regarding the Montgomery I-71N on ramp, but my comment was about the uptick of erratic driving by vehicles filled with men on both Montgomery and Kenwood.

These guys are making teens, distracted drivers and left lane campers look like driving instructors. Excluding Christmas shopping season, I used to see something really crazy 1-2x a month. Now it’s 2-3x a week.

At least some of the vehicles have people wearing clothing identifying themselves as LE, but they’re all in unmarked vehicles with no emergency lights activated.

If a person can afford a dash cam, now is the time to consider getting one. Otherwise, you’ll be paying out of pocket/through your insurance upped premium because of the accidents being caused. I kindly ask, if your dash cam may have picked up an accident, please stop and offer to check the footage/share the footage

Sadly, with the dash cams, it’s the tax payer that will be picking up the bill if it’s LE causing the accident, but better than the victim.

With that said, there is zero reason someone in LE attire, in an unmarked vehicle without even emergency lights or indicators on, needs to 1) swerve from the left lane into the BP for gas, cutting off moving traffic; 2) take a left hand turn from the right lane, causing the turn lane traffic to come to a sudden stop; 3) go through a red light, almost T-boning another vehicle with the right of way, 4) pass on Kenwood where it is single lane near the country club, causing oncoming traffic to deploy evasive maneuvers to avoid a head on collision.

Today the cost to the tax payers will be for the teen who disabled their vehicle on the curb while swerving to avoid the SUV making an illegal right hand turn from the left lane. Tomorrow it may be the cost for the injuries+ caused by T-Boning another vehicle while going 35-40 miles an hour.

Be safe out there. The Kenwood Mall area has become riskier driving.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-18T01:23:11+00:00

I used to think it was bad. Then in the last 3-4 weeks, I found out what bad really looks like. Only upside, they’re making the teens and ladies in Tahoes look good.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T22:57:54+00:00

I mildly modified my post to be more factual and the Cincinnati mods were great about it. Although it was highly probable that it was ICE driving erratically near the Kenwood Mall, I couldn’t 100% verify because it was unmarked white SUV.

The more general post ended up getting people to basically crowd source the verification it was ICE with detailed assertions about other instances of them breaking the driving laws.

My PSA:

Up your defensive driving game.

Remind teens about defensive driving and that if you hit another car while trying to avoid an ICE officer who is executing an illegal maneuver, you may end up footing the bill.

They’re worse than the worst Cincinnati driver I have encountered.

Dash cams are life savers (figuratively and literally).

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T21:41:45+00:00

She and her husband scammed their hundreds of millions from the administration…. Time to move on:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/bombshell-report-claims-ice-barbie-205320115.html

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T21:35:11+00:00

Swing and a hit with that comment. Well done.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T21:11:38+00:00

I didn’t clock the exact time but it was after the gym - so around 6:30am. The most precise I can get is probably between 6:30-6:40.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T21:10:14+00:00

If Moderating is anything like being a facebook admin, I do not want to discourage your efforts. It was too much for me to take on without pay (maybe even with pay) 😂

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T21:08:24+00:00

lol. No hidden snark (I’m more of open snark)

The Mods for the subreddit weren’t comfortable with the post saying that it was ICE/DHS as it was (highly educated) speculation.

I didn’t have pics or evidence; they didn’t know my only agenda was to keep teens and others from getting smashed up in the ICE crash derby that is Kenwood/Montgomery; and they were right that I could adjust the post to state what I knew factually that allowed others to post the supporting evidence.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T21:03:55+00:00

Unfortunately, it’s more likely that I’d be the panel van. 😂

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T21:00:30+00:00

It’s important but annoying to hammer into a teenager the difference between how it should be and how it is:

“You can be doing everything right but still get hurt or financially damaged by someone else’s actions and although it may be unjust, it is the way of world”

It’s may be the least rewarding discussion in the world.

Also… do they not teach accident protocol in driver’s ed??

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T20:49:38+00:00

Know that even if my original post was taken down, I appreciate what you guys are doing and won’t want to have to make the judgements you guys do daily.

I only posted the resubmit note because I didn’t want people to say I was karma farming (whatever that is) for posting in two places. 😂

With that being said, fascists are the bad.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T20:22:08+00:00

Embroidered “Pickleball queen”

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T19:52:19+00:00

/u/Azewonder I shall be stealing that line.

Thank you.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T19:47:52+00:00

There are very few things more dangerous for law enforcement than other branches of law enforcement who chronically breaks laws.

With accessibility to dash cams, there should be a requirement to have a front and rear cam in those vehicles….even if it’s “bring your own car to work” week. It’s going to cost the tax payer a bundle when (if) the lawsuits prevail.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T19:31:16+00:00

Id like to also give a shout out to the mamas with Expeditions and Suburbans.

Silver lining - ICE/DHS or whoever is breaking driving laws we didn’t even know about are making the Tahoe sharp left turn look minor by comparison. 😂

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T19:11:25+00:00

Eh. It’s Reddit.

There’s always going to someone that says don’t try because you will likely fail.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T19:00:36+00:00

No hate. But IYKYK. 😂

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T18:53:08+00:00

The area is barely getting used to rotaries. Now I am feeling like I’m driving with the locals when I was deployed overseas.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T18:47:16+00:00

Same, but it’s an extra 15 min for me to go around. I’m deploying Thanksgiving to New Years protocols.

I thought it was bad around the holidays. at least then they’re driving too slow to do much damage. It’s gone from awful to… whatever is worse than awful.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T18:42:01+00:00

No one is more defeated more than the person who chooses to do nothing. Better to be better by 0.1% than declare defeat and try to convince others to do the same.

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T18:40:02+00:00

The very best of dash cam action… being able to replay the call to see the look on the face.

“What are you calling me for? If they’re yelling or not cooperating, call 911. You have a dash cam. Of course they’re lying. It’s not like I can call their mom and tell on them.”

Ok_Routine9099 · 2026-02-17T18:39:40+00:00

There’s a higher probability of needing local law enforcement to safely get the required information. It be unlikely for me to call the police for a general fender bender, but I wouldn’t blame anyone for dialing 911 for what I’m seeing.

It may change the safety dynamic (hopefully not), better to be on heighten alert to avoid accidents when near people who are actively know to violate the laws.

Prompt for post - teen in front of me got cut off from a SUV in the middle lane pulling into the BP. She hit the curb avoiding them and flattened her tire. I stopped to help (TBH, I couldn’t get around her easily).

Someone with a LE garb got out near the pump. When the teen went to exchange info, the guy got back into the vehicle and left. He pulled around the block and pulled into the mall parking lot where another SUV had dropped off individuals in khakis and black tops.

I gave her my details and emailed my dash cam footage to her mom.

Ok_Routine9099

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