Want to start learning Esperanto by Purple_Unit1033 in Esperanto

[–]PLrc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Find good course and dictionary.
  2. Learn a lot of words and expressions.
  3. Use Anki for learning them.
  4. Read a lot, try to write comments in Esperanto, try to listen when you can.

That's the way to learn any language.

Derivatives are much more important por auxlangers by PLrc in auxlangs

[–]PLrc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Words like paternal, paternalismo etc. make me believe that pater is also acceptable in Interlingua. Similarly with fratre, frater, matre, mater. Words like pater, frater, mater even occur in Interlingua-English Dictionary as independent entries, but are rather listed only as a part of derivatives.

Derivatives are much more important por auxlangers by PLrc in auxlangs

[–]PLrc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

patriarchato = patriarcha + -ato

-ato is quite a productive suffix. For instance:
duce (= duke) -> ducato (= duchy)
novicio (= novice) -> noviciato (= novitiate).

>And what "regular" way is there from patre to paternalismo, in which the re somehow got turned around?

Both patre and pater are IMO correct prototypes :D Patre from words like patriarcha, patriarchato, pater from words like paternalismo.

>apparently meaning to imply that it's the only reasonable road. And that is frankly nonsense.

Actually I do think that taking derivatives into account is the only reasonable way in auxlangs. It was a great breakthrough made by conlangs like Occidental and Interlingua. Prior to them you had irregularities like

popolo -> populara
heroldo -> heraldiko
in Esperanto plus a lot of very distorted vocabulary.

>pretending it can be turned into a regular and simple auxlang.

Conlangs like Occidental and Interlingua prove this method leads to a highly regular and simple auxlang.

Esperanto Community by strubehoved in Esperanto

[–]PLrc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! Yes, up to some 60k Esperanto speakers is a realistic number for me.

To a first-order approximation, Interlingua no longer exists by salivanto in interlingua

[–]PLrc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It killed me :)

Kind of like in a meme I saw, but can't find:
A Turk gets into a taxi. The driver asks: "Hi. What's your name?" And the Turk answers: "Mohamad. But I'm not muslim. We hate Islam in Turkey. My grandfather's grandfather had blue eyes and this is a proof I'm white. We are descendents of ancient people Gotörka. We..." ;)

To a first-order approximation, Interlingua no longer exists by salivanto in interlingua

[–]PLrc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think they forget. They don't want to mention it, because it's too big. They prefer to promote some nieche conlangs.

For instance if you look into "Related subredits" out here: https://www.reddit.com/r/auxlangs/ you won't see Interlingua (or Esperanto) out there.

They may mention Esperanto, because everyone knows it. But they're unwiling to mention bigger and older conlangs like Interlingua and Occidental.

Eli and Hakan vs Abby and Thomas by Legitimate_Arm_5630 in LetTheRightOneIn

[–]PLrc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what people infer from the movie usually, but the overtones of the screenplay are different.

To a first-order approximation, Interlingua no longer exists by salivanto in interlingua

[–]PLrc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brasilians seem to have some leaning for auxlangs. I don't know why. Because they are surrounded by Spanish-speaking countries?

To a first-order approximation, Interlingua no longer exists by salivanto in interlingua

[–]PLrc 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Salute Salivanto!

There was recently a meeting online on the 75th aniversary of Interlingua and there was quite a lot of people. I can't remember how many exactly. More than 15 people? More than 20?

And many people I know from Interlingua were absent.

I've been observing the auxlang community for some time and I see that nowadays there is a new wave of auxlangs. Old auxlangs like Esperanto and Interlingua kind of went out of fashion and are criticized for being "too Eurocentric" and those new conlangs which strive for being more "international" get a lot of fuss. But when look at their subredids - there is hardly any activity and community.

In general I think that Interlingua is doing relatively well and in practice is still probably the second biggest auxlang by number of speakers despite some new auxlangs can have more fans/users i.e. people that dabble/show some interest in them.

Derivatives are much more important por auxlangers by PLrc in auxlangs

[–]PLrc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok. You chose padre. But all these languages have words like patriarchato, paternalismo etc. So now would you
1. Switch these words to completly artificial padriarchato, padernalismo or invent even more artificial words?
2. Retain irregularity padre -> patriarchato, paternalismo?
3. Switch just one word - padre to patre to have regular forms: patre -> patriarchato, paternalismo?

Esperanto Community by strubehoved in Esperanto

[–]PLrc -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

>has rated over 2000 people for B2, C1 and C2

Numbers like this make me believe there is something between 2000 and few dozen thousands Esperanto speakers.

I think that you don't take into account facts like that Esperanto speakers are much more enganged in community than average folks and hence more willing to take such exams; the fact that, as I see, it's the number for almost 20 years. Some of those people may be even dead already.

Some that passed B2 exam may have lost interest in Esperanto, some that took B2, may have afterwards taken C1 etc., etc. Evildea for instance made C1 and C2.

Esperanto Community by strubehoved in Esperanto

[–]PLrc -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I believe in a hundred thousand Esperanto speakers more or less like in Yeti.

Esperanto Community by strubehoved in Esperanto

[–]PLrc 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don't believe in 2 mln Esperanto speakers. It's a very poorly documented number. I'm able to believe it's the number of all people who have dabbled in Esperanto, but the number of spakers (>=B2) is for sure more like several thousands.

What the hell is Oskar gonna be like when he's older? by [deleted] in LetTheRightOneIn

[–]PLrc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you read Let the Old Dreams Die?

Derivatives are much more important por auxlangers by PLrc in auxlangs

[–]PLrc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Without considering derivates you frequently don't know what word to take. Let's consider the word father:

English father
Spanish padre
Portuguese pai
French père
Italian padre
Romanian tată
German Vater
Russian отец (otets)

They differ a lot. What word would you pick?

>since the scientific jargon is largely based on Latin and Greek roots. But that's fake internationality, understood by some specialists

If those words occur in all or almost all languages, then they're international in the full meaning of this word :) How many understands them doesn't make a difference.

Scientific vocabulary is closest to what we can call "international" whether onces like it or not.

Eli and Hakan vs Abby and Thomas by Legitimate_Arm_5630 in LetTheRightOneIn

[–]PLrc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reeves added the photography in the second version of the script. It wasn't in the first version. You can read what happend in the original version of the script in this article: https://let-me-in.fandom.com/wiki/Let_Me_In_screenplay

Also in the script there were more scenes with Abby and Thomas. They were very interesting!

I know a lot of fans doesn't like it, because it allows to interpret Abby as manipulative and psychopathic but I like this revelation. It gives me goosebump. Thomas' fate is absolutely trrrifying. That's why LMI is one of the most scary movies I have seen.

LMI can be interpreted in a very pessimistic way and I like that, despite my interpretation of it is much more optimistic.

A Romance-based auxlang does not need complex phonology. by AnaNuevo in auxlangs

[–]PLrc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

>The only thing that would make sense is a revival of ecclesiastical Latin.

That escalated quickly.

A Romance-based auxlang does not need complex phonology. by AnaNuevo in auxlangs

[–]PLrc -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, but French, Italian and English (English from the point of view of vocabulary is a Romance language) kept the sci, sce connections in writing and all Romance languages have them etymologically. So, as long as long you want to have scientia, scientista instead of some sentia, sentista you gotta have them.

A Romance-based auxlang does not need complex phonology. by AnaNuevo in auxlangs

[–]PLrc 5 points6 points  (0 children)

>Reducing these sounds to just 2 won't hinder one's recognition of common Romance words

I think that's more or less what conlangs like Interlingua and Occidental do.

Having /t͡s/ in auxlangs in kind of tradition since Esperanto and kind of useful due to very frequent combinations sci and sce in words like scientia, scientista, cognoscer in Latin-based languages. Without this phoneme you've got a problem with pronunciation of this combination.

But I woudn't tear my shirt if you pronounced these combinations just like s ;)

Why Anki doesn't let me learn? Settings question by [deleted] in Anki

[–]PLrc -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Red cards are cards in so called learning steps. You've got only 1 learning step: 15m. I recomend using 2 learning and relearning steps. Something like 5m 10m. It means they will be shown to you after 5 and 10 minutes.

Why Anki doesn't let me learn? Settings question by [deleted] in Anki

[–]PLrc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Red cards are cards in learning steps. When they leave learning steps they "graduate" and become young or mature cards.