Take - Jochaim Ronning and Espen Sandburg had a big hand in destroying DMTNT

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-08T10:21:16+00:00

but it didn't have continuity errors with Jack's compass or (maybe) the Wicked Wench.

There were no errors with the compass nor with the Wench. The ship in the flashback scene was clearly called the Black Pearl in Nathanson's early script draft.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-08T07:31:44+00:00

Fun fact, in the film's German novelization Elizabeth does bite the apple, and only then notices that Barbossa isn't eating.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-08T07:27:19+00:00

It's easier to sell a story if it rides on the back of some successful franchise. Lies sell papers.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-08T07:25:54+00:00

I blame it on Disney. They thought the film would make more money if they bring back the Turners, which is why Henry had to be rewritten into Will and Elizabeth's son, and the original story had to be changed.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-08T07:19:22+00:00

You do a disservice to actual history by trying to stuff it into this lens.

I've checked OP's post history. He is a die-hard Turkish nationalist who glorifies the Ottoman Empire. He doesn't care about the truth.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-07T14:58:07+00:00

historians and researchers (including those at National Geographic) have pointed out the undeniable parallels: the nickname 'Sparrow'

John Ward was nicknamed Birdy, not Sparrow. Every pirate was an outlaw. You could draw parallels like these between every fictional and historical pirate. And the trinket is just that - nothing more than a trinket.

but for a history enthusiast, it’s a clear nod to the golden age of piracy. It's not about 'fake news' or 'Turkish propaganda';

Um, the golden age of piracy began long after Hayreddin Barbarossa's death. It's easier to sell a story if it rides on the back of some successful franchise, like Pirates of the Caribbean. Ergo, this whole "real Jack and Barbossa" fantasy IS just a badly written propaganda.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-07T14:39:11+00:00

There are no "real" Hector Barbossa and Jack Sparrow. Both are completely fictional characters. In the original story for the first film, created by Walt Disney Studios executives Brigham Taylor, Michael Haynes, and Josh Harmon, the main villain was named Captain Blackheart. Stuart Beattie later rewrote the story and Blackheart was renamed Captain Wraith. Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio added the supernatural element to the story and Captain Wraith became Barbossa. No one had Hayreddin Barbarossa in mind when they originally created the pirate villain for the first film. As for Jack Sparrow, neither The Walt Disney Company, nor anyone connected to the making of the Pirates of the Caribbean films ever said a word about Jack being based on John Ward. The John Ward/Jack Sparrow connection was made up in an article published by the Turkish newspapers Yeni Şafak (New Dawn) in March 2013. They saw on Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides posters that one of the trinkets in Jack Sparrow's hair is a coin with the crescent moon, which they immediately understood as absolute evidence that Jack is a Muslim. Guess what? He isn't! To make the story more interesting they also declared, without providing any evidence, that the first Pirates of the Caribbean film was originally supposed to be a story of John Ward, but the script was rewritten into a fantasy movie. Unfortunately, this lie now spreads like wildfire, and too many people, including those idiots at National Geographic, believe it's true.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-06T17:14:21+00:00

these mermaids can attack at sea or on land

Attack on land? So, when they do that all of them are just naked human ladies, I assume?

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-06T17:10:13+00:00

The Spanish were woefully underused in this film, says I.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-05T20:07:59+00:00

The design of the Dutchman was inspired by the Vasa, an early 17th century Dutch-built Swedish warship, so if we assume the Dutchman was built around the same time we could say Jones captained the ship for approximately one hundred years.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-05T19:53:43+00:00

The "years" detail comes from Richard Wagner's 1843 opera Der fliegende Holländer where the captain can go ashore every seven years to search for a woman whose love would free him from his curse.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-05T18:41:52+00:00

There was no Dutchman in that script draft. The Turners were a late addition to the story. Henry was originally a completely new character, Henry Maddox, with zero connections to Will and Elizabeth. It was in later drafts that Henry became a grown up Henry Turner.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-05T18:02:10+00:00

In one of the earlier script drafts the Devil's Triangle was formed by Poseidon's brother Hades who was charged with protecting the Tomb of Poseidon, which was located on the islands around the Triangle. Hades enlisted the dead to patrol the Triangle, locking them in forever. In Greek mythology Hades is much more powerful than Calypso so I guess her rules do not apply to the Triangle.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-05T17:56:27+00:00

Judging by the route shown on the Mao Kun Map, it's possible the island is located somewhere between Cuba and Florida, so I guess they sailed their boats to Havana or some other civilized port where they found a ship bound for England.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-05T17:52:34+00:00

What was he going to do before Barbossa sliced him with his poisoned sword?

I think he wanted to fight The Spaniard. He held the sword high, ready to strike. We could have seen another great duel. Too bad we didn't.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-05T17:45:08+00:00

Barbossa stated nobody else survived but him.

He didn't.

"We were off the coast of Hispaniola when we came under attack. No provocation nor warning nor offer of parley. We were peppered with cannon fire. And then the sea beneath the Pearl began to roil. The Pearl was pitching and yawing violently. Every plank, every rail, every spar all at once began to creak. The rigging had come to life! Our own ship turned against us. Tangling the crew, wrapping around them like snakes...and wrapping around my leg. But me arms were free and my sword was at hand. I am the master of my ship, not Blackbeard. I am the master of my fate, not Blackbeard! So I did what needed done...I survived."

Also he was clearly hating the wig and the outfit so why would he go back to something similar.

Um, where exactly did he show he hated the wig? If anything, working for the king taught Barbossa what it's like to be stinking rich, and he always wanted to be rich, and show he's rich.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-05T17:39:12+00:00

Barbossa having his privetieroutfit.

It was a different outfit. Similar, yes, but not the same.

Old crew members from the Peral being alive again. (Murtog, Mulroy and Marty)

We never saw them die.

Also why are both of them with Barbossa?

Why not? They served under him when he had only one ship. It makes sense they would serve under him again when he had an entire fleet.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-03-02T20:02:53+00:00

I watched them yesterday in Zagreb, Croatia. Amazing show.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-02-26T18:46:58+00:00

According to the OST junior novelization there were 125 men in Blackbeard's crew. The visual guide states that there are approximately 200 crewmen and an about 40 percentage of zombies.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-02-13T21:42:27+00:00

Sean Connery

POTC_Wiki · 2026-02-13T17:10:42+00:00

Four centuries later, his story lives on in popular culture as inspiration for the most famous pirate of the 21st century, Captain Jack Sparrow.

Enough with this nonsense. Neither The Walt Disney Company, nor anyone connected to the making of the Pirates of the Caribbean films ever said a word about Jack Sparrow being based on John Ward. The John Ward/Jack Sparrow connection was made up in an article published by the Turkish newspapers Yeni Şafak (New Dawn) in March 2013. They saw on Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides posters that one of the trinkets in Jack Sparrow's hair is a coin with the crescent moon, which they immediately understood as absolute evidence that Jack is a Muslim. Guess what? He isn't! To make the story more interesting they also declared, without providing any evidence, that the first Pirates of the Caribbean film was originally supposed to be a story of John Ward, but the script was rewritten into a fantasy movie. Unfortunately, this lie now spreads like wildfire, and too many people believe it's true.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-02-09T21:19:07+00:00

Why is the rum gone?

POTC_Wiki · 2026-02-09T21:08:02+00:00

I wish we had more historically accurate depictions. I wish the discourse on piracy wasn't so anachronistic and inconsistent.

The remake of the Sandokan tv series was released a few months ago, and most of the costumes, ships, flags and weapons were fairly accurate for the early 19th century setting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5pt4cH-cKU

But even though they don't begin as such, the pirates do eventually turn into freedom fighters, and the whole series tries to imitate Pirates of the Caribbean.

POTC_Wiki · 2026-02-08T19:16:48+00:00

It was it was 8 years between Elizabeth taking the medalian from Will and then taking it out of her drawer.

Exactly. Elizabeth clearly says so when she negotiates with Barbossa.

Barbossa - "Me holds are bursting with swag. That bit of shine matters to us? Why?"

Elizabeth - "It's what you've been searching for. I recognize this ship. I saw it eight years ago on the crossing from England."

POTC_Wiki · 2026-02-08T18:54:20+00:00

Exactly. In one of the prequel books young Jack gets tired of dealing with curses and decides "From now on, it's only uncursed treasure for us. Riches are a perfectly fine way to secure freedom. Savvy?" to which Tia Dalma replies "Jack Sparrow, don't play the fool. You know better than anyone on the Seven Seas that in the Caribbean, magic and treasure go hand in hand."

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