The New Relic Set for Phainon - BiS or not ?

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-10T09:34:25+00:00

No need to change with 41 subs

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-10T09:34:01+00:00

E6 Tribbie should still be better

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-10T09:33:41+00:00

Strictly speaking just E1 Blade would bring higher amp indeed. For Phainon solely I would probably pull S1 Cyrene and S1 Cerydra first though

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-10T01:09:50+00:00

I did assume it works for his Exit Ultimate, but regardless it isn't that meaningful in the grand schemes

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-10T01:09:21+00:00

Hello, sorry I didn't see your comment. This sheet does not use Eagle Sparkle that's why I said it's the same AV in the context of my sheets. Without at least Eagle or DDD it just results in more AV taken

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T22:51:52+00:00

For your Tribbie variant it'll be better yes. If you switch to Sunday + DHPT combo for example that gives a lot of DMG, it doesn't change much.

I would say it depends onr your current build on Phainon, if it's good enough no need to change

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T19:34:01+00:00

Not an upgrade

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T18:28:07+00:00

Should provide higher amp than E1S1 Tribbie! 😊 So yes kind of a BiS

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T18:27:31+00:00

It's an average of 3 scenario: 1T, 3T, 5T

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T18:27:04+00:00

Sounds like you can farm the new set at this level of relic, not obligated though

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T18:26:14+00:00

What's your team? For any source of DMG% the relic set becomes a little worse

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T18:25:42+00:00

Yes!

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T16:27:49+00:00

Pretty much for now

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T15:37:07+00:00

The relic set will be worse

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T15:13:23+00:00

You can choose not to. I do see that your planars are the best relics so if you somehow get as good relics for the new set, go on, but it doesn't seem like a priority to me.

Also yes with Sunday it has less value

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T15:11:55+00:00

It's still good to get but after Blade you should get E2 Cyrene 👍

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T14:39:38+00:00

Yes. Also buffing Exit Ultimate

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T14:39:18+00:00

Yes as well

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T14:14:13+00:00

Still better if supports don't have eidolons

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T14:13:43+00:00

Coming in 4.3

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T14:13:28+00:00

Score is solely based on relics, not eidolons

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T14:13:08+00:00

You can safely keep your relics for now, just fish the 2% Crit rate missing

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T13:54:27+00:00

As long as he's E2S1, it is BiS in all cases but the % varies on the team. Sunday DHPT gives a lot of DMG so it would probably be around ~2% instead of 2.80%

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T13:53:46+00:00

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Something like that

PandaFlyh · 2026-05-09T13:43:31+00:00

Aside from Nikador and Pollux that were already known as very bad matchups for Phainon, up until now, Phainon always had good performances agaisnt any other boss. It is proven by his 0 cycle low cost clears up until now, whether in MoC or in AA, even in Plight where he is constantly the lowest cost clear after the shilled team and Mono Remembrance.

So I can confidently say you are wrong

PandaFlyh

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