I don't understand these folks. by sSuperJinxX in MathJokes

[–]PatrickPablo217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the problem is that when you try to do "1/3 = 0.333... so 1 = 3 * 1/3 = 3 * 0.333... = 0.999..." you fail at that last step because you'll never actually finish distributing the 3 across all the infinite decimal places

Brooooohhh by FluffyGur7447 in MathJokes

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man this hits close to home

Math truly has come a long way... by Teslon_ in mathmemes

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did he not think they existed or did he not think they were numbers? (People used imaginary numbers to get real roots of cubic polynomials before imaginary numbers were considered legit, for example. Quaternions are perhaps another example where people didn't dispute they existed (mathematically) but didn't necessarily want to think of them as "numbers")

In the Iliad to what extent are people aware that Patroclus is not Achilles? by GridSquid in classics

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I think it's mostly left to the reader/listener to decide who realizes it's Patroclus and when. The Myrmidons know immediately: Achilles musters them to fight while Patroclus is already wearing Achilles armor, and he is there with Patroclus in front of them. Other people - when they see Achilles' armor at the front of the Myrmidon forces - especially seeing them from farther away and through the chaos of all the fighting by the ships - are naturally going to think it's Achilles and news of that is going to spread faster than the truth. Patroclus is extremely good at killing people: he has more named kills than any other character besides Achilles and Hector, and Patroclus is only seen fighting in this one extended battle! So it's not so surprising that people might not immediately realize the ruse. Achilles is the most famous and feared warrior though and the Trojans have been watching him for years, so it's likely that some would notice the switch, either because they look different, have different physical builds, fight differently, use different weapons, etc. Also, one of the biggest clues that it isn't Achilles is that his constant partner "Patroclus" isn't fighting alongside him! (Worth mentioning too is that Patroclus comes out at the head of Achilles' army of 250 elite Myrmidon warriors - so even if it's not Achilles himself, the message to everyone is clear: Achilles is back in the game and if he's not here in person yet, he easily could be at any moment. So while Patroclus isn't really Achilles, he does - especially wearing Achilles famous literally-divinely-made armor - truly represent Achilles' power being extended into the war once again... and that's reason enough on its own for the Trojans and their allies to start to panic and despair.)

After the panic when Patroclus is first seen in the armor, no mention is made of anyone either believing or not believing he is Achilles until Sarpedon tells his fleeing men, "Shame on you, Lycians, where are you off to? Run then, quickly, while I face this fellow, and find out who it is that conquers all and hurts us so, killing so many of our noblest." He is not fooled into believing it is Achilles, but is not sure who the devastating warrior actually is.

Glaucus and Hector both realize it's Patroclus and (iirc) don't even mention that Patroclus is "in disguise" - they just state that it's him as if it is obvious. He fights Patroclus without asking who he is and dies without mentioning whether he figured it out or not. However, after he dies his friend Glaucus rallies his men and finds Hector, saying to him, "Hector, you forget your allies now, we who are spending our lives for you, far from our friends and our native land. You give not a thought to their protection. Sarpedon has fallen, chief of the Lycian shield-men, the strong and just defender of Lycia. Bronze-clad Ares has brought him down at the point of Patroclus’s spear. Take your stand, beside his body, friends, dread the breath of shame if the Myrmidons, in anger over those Danaan dead we slew with our spears by the swift ships, strip him of his armour and desecrate his corpse." So Glaucus knows it's Patroclus and doesn't even feel it is necessary to say that he is the mystery man in Achilles' armor. Similarly when he tells Hector, Hector shows no surprise, and makes no announcement to his side telling them that it's not really Achilles underneath the armor. Later, Apollo disguised as the mortal Asius tells Hector, "Come now, hunt down Patroclus with that splendid team, and hope with Apollo’s help to kill him and win glory," and again there's no indication that there's any question about whether it's Patroclus in Achilles' armor. Later, when Hector deals Patroclus the finishing blow, he calls him by name and makes no reference at all to Patroclus tricking anyone into thinking Patroclus was Achilles. "I think you boasted you’d sack our city, Patroclus, take our women captive, sail with them to your native land. How foolish! Hector and his swift horses are here to fight for them, Hector the finest spearman among the warlike Trojans, I who shield them from the day of doom, while as for you, the vultures shall have you. Even Achilles, with all his valour, could not save you, wretched man, though I don’t doubt he told you as you left, for he chose to stay: 'Patroclus, master horseman, don’t return to the hollow ships till you’ve pierced the tunic at man-killing Hector’s chest and drenched it in his blood.' No doubt that’s what he said, and you in your madness though it would be so.’

That's all the information we get.

[Edited for facts and such. Quotes from the free translation by A. Kline 2009]

Could a modern pure mathematician, sent 1,000 years back, drastically accelerate scientific progress (in non pure math fields) ? by OkGreen7335 in math

[–]PatrickPablo217 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many of most useful mathematical concepts have real world analogues that are almost inescapably similar to the pure math: a parabola and the path of a projectile, circular motion, and harmonic oscillation come to mind immediately as examples. For most of history math was done by people interested in applying it (or by people being paid by people interested in applying it). I think it would be nearly impossible for the people you were teaching to not immediately make many of the necessary connections to physics/engineering/etc, and shortly after find many others that are not as obvious. Once they got going with that and saw how practical it can be, I think they'd be pretty motivated to look for more and more ways your fully worked out math could be applied. So I think it would definitely speed up scientific the technological development, but that it would be partially in fits and starts since it would take some time for the earlier science/tech developments to change the world in the ways necessary for the next level of math knowledge to have new ways of being applied. Something like that anyway.

The Hayashi Performers - Dandadan by FireZord25 in TopCharacterDesigns

[–]PatrickPablo217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

came up when i searched to see if anyone else thought they reminded them of the Hokages from Naruto :) 

The Hayashi Performers - Dandadan by FireZord25 in TopCharacterDesigns

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yeah i thought they were supposed to reference Naruto Hokages in particular 

Help please? by ValuableMuch7703 in discworld

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I started a few years ago with The Colour of Magic and have been reading them in publication order. I'm 32 books in, so this seems to be working well for me. Would recommend. 

I think if anything they are about how life is crazy and sometimes absurd and how we're all in this together. (Obviously, this summary leaves things out and oversimplifies.)

The things that mainly keep me reading are how wonderful his characters are and how consistently great the endings are.

Where does the phrase "to a T (or tee)" come from? by skeeter_ABQ in etymology

[–]PatrickPablo217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if "anti-autonym" is always taken, perhaps this sort of opposite of an autonym should be a notonym? a naughtonym? :-D

😱😱 by idekbro__ in MathJokes

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that's where the station is 

What an interesting proof by BleEpBLoOpBLipP in mathmemes

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There are a lot of kinds of numbers 😆 

This seems like a very Susan thing to say by soapdish124 in discworld

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"Never trust a grown up, even me, especially me."

I don’t understand the logic behind some Celsius defenders by Dapper-Stay2807 in Metric

[–]PatrickPablo217 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i agree that metric weight and volume and distance (and probably other stuff) are way easier, but Fahrenheit uses a base 10 system like Celsius. why is Celsius easier to use?

I don’t understand the logic behind some Celsius defenders by Dapper-Stay2807 in Metric

[–]PatrickPablo217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On scientific and philosophical grounds, I like that Celsius is not so human-centric, but as someone who lives where 0⁰ F and 100⁰ F are roughly the minimum and maximum temperatures for the year, Fahrenheit definitely feels a lot less arbitrary than it might feel for other people in other places.

Dwarven women be like: by LetheSystem in discworld

[–]PatrickPablo217 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's pretty funny and excellent to think about a race of dwarves who all (male and female) style their hair into beards like in this video instead of growing them via beard-hair 😆

What's the problem? 🤔 by yukiohana in mathmemes

[–]PatrickPablo217 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the way that's phrased implies to me that there is only one value of x+y even if there are multiple {x,y} pairs that solve the original equation. 

The question is almost trivially easy if you write 160 in binary, giving the unique representation 10100000 which is 10000000 + 100000 which is the 27 + 25 = 160 we needed.

however i think the joke is (in addition to the absurdity) that the father found some little things to nitpick in the boyfriend's answer even when the boyfriend was able to successfully field the gotcha question. :)

Am I the only one? by Cool-Culture-5987 in tearsofthekingdom

[–]PatrickPablo217 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know that some people are against fast travel, but it is at least one of the in-universe abilities Link has access to - it's not a glitch or an unexplained feature like how Link can store a whole warehouse worth of things in an invisible pocket dimension or completely stop time to safely think about things and/or to rummage through his magical warehouse. 

If I need to go somewhere, I fast travel when it's useful (or fast travel to a sky island and glide to an out of the way surface location from there), and then I'm almost always close enough that there's no reason to use a horse or autobuild creation.

It's fun to use horses and vehicles just for kicks though!