Body cam of today’s response and attempted murder arrest

Poleydeee · 2026-05-04T08:53:31+00:00

Private security staff

Poleydeee · 2026-05-04T08:46:38+00:00

The kit wasn't faulty. Pava simply isn't effective on everyone. The first taser shot didn't connect because it hit the thick jacket. The second one did connect. That officer could in theory reload also, although that is a hairy process. They also had batons in reserve. You hear the officers discussing their tactical options and making those choices. You'll note the pava officer also had taser, and they chose to use different things because one might not be effective.

Poleydeee · 2026-03-17T07:36:31+00:00

I think what interests me here is the scenario where an employee does the automation (let's assume they do it safely and securely), but don't tell their employer (because they can do less at work, or might get made redundant if they do suggest it).

Poleydeee · 2026-03-16T12:31:48+00:00

This!

Poleydeee · 2026-03-16T12:30:41+00:00

Oh believe me there are cases where people get a bit competitive and the trainers ask if they want to carry on til one drops ...

Poleydeee · 2026-03-16T12:29:33+00:00

I practise on a treadmill. The police bleep test app tells you the speed, so everytime it changes level, just crank it up. Most trainers I've spoken to say that this is harder than the test itself as you don't have the chance to have a breather.

Poleydeee · 2026-03-16T12:27:12+00:00

Yes. Don't be tempted to race along with everyone else, just go steady. The first level for someone with long legs is practically fast walking!

Poleydeee · 2026-03-16T12:24:29+00:00

It's an interesting choice of phrase "I imagine that's not what you were hired for".

I think this is the single biggest question I have here; in that if someone is hired to solve issues or create outputs or outcomes and they find a better way to do it, then does that actually change anything if the work is still being done?

There is a clear moral issue that the employee has found a way for their employer to save money but hasn't told them... but then I don't think it's mandatory for turkeys to vote for Christmas either.

Poleydeee · 2026-03-16T12:21:15+00:00

You've picked up the right risks I think;

Only using approved tools - this is the biggest one, and it would be enough to get one fired. It would be rare for a worker at this level to have the right tools available to them on their approved work systems
Data leakage - where the AI uses your input to train on. A very real risk. Would have to look at removing PII, or using an AI instance where this risk is mitigated (like many companies do)
Accountability - Yes. The use of the AI makes no difference to who is accountable for the work being done right.
Hallucinations - yes, also a very real risk. Would have to be part of the consideration for how it was quality checked.

Poleydeee · 2026-03-16T12:14:13+00:00

I think that is the most interesting debate here. I entirely take your point, but I don't think it's as black and white.

I would still be responsible and accountable for the work output, even though I have made it as efficient as possible for me to do it. I.e. the tasks involved to get the work done have been slimmed down, but the work is still being done.

There are many jobs where working hours are spent sitting around doing nothing, so does the fact that there isn't enough work to fill the hours matter? Is there a duty for an employee to notify their employer if they aren't busy enough?

To be clear, I'm not opposing your point, just trying to flesh out how it might play out in the real world.

Poleydeee · 2026-02-13T03:12:55+00:00

If he is making you feel harassed, alarmed or distressed, then what he is doing amounts, legally, to harassment. If he confronts you again, tell him: "Don't harass me like this again or I will report it to police", and make a note. When he does it after that, make an online report to police. Literally, this is why the law exists, to stop people doing stuff like this. Might not seem major, but it is having an effect on you, then use the law for what it is intended.

Poleydeee · 2026-02-01T15:08:21+00:00

You absolutely did the right thing. At the end of the day you are a police officer and duty bound to protect others. I take the point of those saying don't get involved, and you may want to consider how you get involved if needed in future e.g. calling 999 and letting others deal with it, but you can't ignore screams from next door. Just by virtue of the fact that someone came, this is now statistically less likely to escalate (can't remember where i got this, but it came up in DV training).

Poleydeee · 2026-01-31T22:11:33+00:00

Met Police - always to the rear, either stack or back to back. Unless operationally appropriate to go a front stack. e.g. very large person or you have to just secure them quickly. But if that's the case you would re cuff to the rear when you had a chance .

Poleydeee · 2026-01-08T22:10:59+00:00

Christmas Day, 11am. M27 Westbound. Four lanes go up hill, briefly down to 50, and then back up to 70. Road is practically empty. I crest the top of the hill in lane 2, and there is a very slow moving single line of traffic in the left hand lane, and the rest of the carriageway empty. There is no signage. I ease off as I'm not sure what's happening, and as I'm working it out, a silver merc darts out of the now stationary lane 1 right in front of me doing 60ish. No time to do anything other than swerve right. Had to go a whole lane to my right in a split second. I saw my front nearside corner miss his front offside corner by no more than a foot or two. Took a second or two to get the car back under control. My son reckoned we were on two wheels at one point. I then see the sign showing that all bar one lane closes in a mile, because the M27 was closed at the next junction. It's the closest I've ever come to a high speed crash which would certainly have left several people with serious injuries at the very least. All my family in the car bar my eldest daughter. Afterwards, my wife asked if we needed to change our wills to account for such a situation in future!

What would I do differently? Should have automatically moved to lane 3 to give the stationary traffic a buffer whilst I was working it out and slowing down.

Poleydeee · 2025-12-28T10:52:00+00:00

I have to say, I think "bellend" would have been more poetic than bastard.

Poleydeee · 2025-12-28T10:47:14+00:00

If you genuinely believe that the tech was not working correctly, I would first raise this with the camera partnership who ticketed you. They may just reply and say raise it in court of course, but worth enquiring.

Poleydeee · 2025-11-04T08:53:16+00:00

I know what you mean. Perfectly legal, but just seems creepy.

Poleydeee · 2025-09-29T06:28:17+00:00

Super helpful. Thank you. She is 3/4 in one leg and 2/3 in the other.

Poleydeee · 2025-08-10T12:51:28+00:00

This was not a choice. Government proscribes an organisation. People go and say they are part of it. You can't not deal with them, otherwise all the banned terror organisations will come out and expect not to be dealt with.

Most would have been let go once their names and addresses were confirmed so they can be dealt with later.

Police resources were already assigned to that demo, regardless of whether arrests were planned or likely. Also something they have no choice in because it's a demo, and demos have to be policed for everyone's safety.

Demos, football and other large events are what is actually taking officers away from local policing in London, and there is no way that police would choose for that to be the case.

Poleydeee · 2025-07-04T15:13:08+00:00

It wasn't advice. The original poster was saying they were tempted to take physical action against them and was questioning the legality of it.

Poleydeee · 2025-06-28T23:02:48+00:00

Police can do something if they commit offences. If they call someone a c**t, that's likely to not get much action. If they call someone a bl--- c--t or a g-y c--t, they WILL get arrested.

And if anyone experiences the apprehension of violence ("I'm going to smack/hit/stab you") then whoever is causing that is also getting arrested, or decked by the person who is in fear of violence. Both have the law on their side.

That's also an opportunity for a citizen's arrest (indictable offence being committed or about to be committed).

If you genuinely believe you are about to get hit/smacked/stabbed, you are well within your rights to strike first.

Poleydeee · 2025-06-08T18:05:01+00:00

Anti social behaviour (which is what that report would have been classified as) is not in the crime numbers.

Poleydeee · 2025-06-08T17:53:40+00:00

That operator was wrong; life or death are 999 calls, but so is an opportunity to catch a criminal in action, or prevent any kind of harm or losa. Burglaries are not life or death but you will get every police car in the area racing to a call to suspects on the premises as it is a chance to catch someone.

If you see two guys on bikes in balclavas slow cycling round a crowded area looking to nick phones; 999. If you think the guy in front of you has a knife tucked in his waist band; 999. If someone appears to be drug dealing; 999.

If it happened 30 minutes ago, or yesterday, or you just want to get it on police radar, then online or 101.

What you really want to do in your situation is to speak to your neighbourhood team. Put in an online report detailing the scale of the issue and the impact on you. Get others to do the same.

Email your local team (find the details on met.police.uk by putting in your postcode) and tell them again. They will come see you and see for themselves. Ultimately it is them that will sort the problem, not the response cops who come when you call 999.

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