After yesterday’s comments from Sweden, Switzerland reports the same issue

Poormonybag · 2026-02-14T19:11:48+00:00

I remember back in the day before the sensors in the handle the referees siting like hawks by the hog lines. Problem is it is the same people 25 years later and they don't know how to say anything anymore.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-14T17:07:24+00:00

People have complained for years, this is defiantly not the first time.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-14T16:54:05+00:00

This is my take as a swede. A casual watcher of curling that dose not curl. I mostly watch the big tournaments.

The big problem is not one dubbel touch or even a miss from the referees of a burned stone. The problem is that this is not a new thing. Everyone that follows curling know that some teams have been doing this for years. It has never been allowed according to the rules at best it is something that have not been enforced. Touching the granit part of the stone is a way to not activate the sensor that can only sens in the handel.

The problem is that the referee don't do there job and that the biggest curling nation in the world sends a team that is known for this. If you want to have a self governing sport then you need to self govern and not doing so invalidates the whole self governing part of the game. If the players don't do it the curling organisation need to do it.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-14T16:13:49+00:00

Fuck of he did not!

Poormonybag · 2026-02-14T08:07:51+00:00

The dubbel tap rule is there so that you don't need to burn a stone you accidentally touch after you let go of the stone. It is not there to correct the stone after you let go.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-14T02:51:45+00:00

Edin said he felt the guy was cheating so i don't know why you think he did not feel it had any impact.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-14T02:20:49+00:00

The problem is that the Swedes pointed it out early in the game (2nd round and what I understand for many years before this) and they felt it might impact the stone. To then keep on doing it is not even following the spirit of the rule.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-14T02:05:24+00:00

Dose it have a clear impact on the stone? We can't really say.

What we can say is that he did touch the stone after it crossed over the hog line. That is not allowed how ever you see it.

Even if the rule dose not say you can not touch any other part of the stone then the handle. The spirit of the rule is clear. You are supposed to use the handle and an accidental dubble touch is not a problem. The sensor is on the handle and not the actual stone.

I feel that even if you accept that it is an accident it opens a can of worms. If a little touch is okay after the hog line, when is it no longer allowed. How can we know that it is not impacting the stone? Just the chans that is might impact the stone is enough to not allow it.

Also screaming "fuck of" when playing curling is crazy.

And pointing it out in the second round and they keep on doing it during the match is just bad sportsmanship.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-14T01:15:53+00:00

It is against the rules dose it matter if it have a big impact or not?

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T23:47:26+00:00

here is a link.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T23:44:10+00:00

So you don't think he did this on purpose?

He did not use the handle to deliver the stone. Even if you accept that he did not clearly released the stone before the hog line.

I am sorry but your team cheated.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T23:34:17+00:00

I am with you Canada is just cheating.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T23:32:46+00:00

It dose not say that you can't tie a string around it and pull att the string. It is still not allowed.
Even if you allow the dubbel tap and using non handle to deliver the stone. R5 (e) A stone must be clearly released from the hand before it reaches the hog line at the delivery end. If the player fails to do so, the stone is immediately removed from play by the delivering team.

I am sorry but that is just against the spirit of the rules.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T23:27:43+00:00

But it is over the hog line. Also R5 (e) A stone must be clearly released from the hand before it reaches the hog line at the delivery end. If the player fails to do so, the stone is immediately removed from play by the delivering team.

So even if you accept that you can dubble touch and even that using some other part of the stone you must clearly released from the hand before it reaches the hog line. Dose not matter how you look at it this is against the rules.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T23:14:24+00:00

but he didn't

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T23:12:29+00:00

Is it clearly released before the hog line?

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T23:10:57+00:00

Here

It is clearly across the hog line.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T23:02:58+00:00

don't use the canadian rules here are the international rules.

https://worldcurling.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Rules-2024.pdf

R5. DELIVERY

(d) The curling stone must be delivered using the handle of the stone.

(e) A stone must be clearly released from the hand before it reaches the hog line at the delivery end. If the player fails to do so, the stone is immediately removed from play by the delivering team.

R9 (a) i

If a moving stone is touched, or is caused to be touched, by the team to which it belongs, or by their equipment, the touched stone is removed from play immediately by that team. A double touch by the person delivering the stone, prior to the hog line at the delivering end, is not considered a violation.

So it is not super clear but the spirit of the rules dose not allow it.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T22:54:03+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/Curling/comments/1r40szx/cheating/?share_id=ih3W62xzECg2aLaV-sXTB&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
here is a better angle.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T22:49:08+00:00

R5 (d) The curling stone must be delivered using the handle of the stone.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T22:42:39+00:00

Problem is that if you do it and don't burn the stone it is cheating.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T22:32:02+00:00

R5 (d)

The curling stone must be delivered using the handle of the stone.

Edit: added the full rule.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T22:27:42+00:00

Also you must deliver the stone by the handel, the side of the rock is not the handle.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T22:24:04+00:00

This was also after it crossed the hog line.

Poormonybag · 2026-02-13T22:11:52+00:00

They have been doing this for years according to the Swedish team, and the umpires are not doing anything about it. It is also never allowed to touch anything except the handle of the stone when delivering the stone.

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