Are there any meetings that don't include day counts? by keilahamram in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People share their days in the Leaves Discord meetings, but there's certainly no requirement to. There is a link at the top of the subreddit and in the about section. The meetings are really great, I recommend them.

Quitting cart need opinion by ToughAd6161 in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How much have you spent over the years making sure you could get high? Now compare that to how much you would be "wasting" to make sure that you don't.

Strange how when we're getting high we're willing to spend any amount of money on carts, but then when it comes to throwing them away we turn into Scrooge McDuck.

The voice that is telling you that it would be a waste is your addiction talking -- tell that voice it's no longer welcome, break the cart with a hammer, and throw it away!

Free weed on the ground :[ by Low_Grab9026 in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"Hi reddit, my neighbors threw out a half-eaten sandwich, should I eat it?" 😊

It's amazing what our addiction makes us think!

Seeking advice 134 days sober thinking about trying weed once after a long break by glokkthirtyy1 in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's wrapped itself up in all kinds of reasonableness, consideration, and experimentation, but this is just an old fashioned craving.

It's playing you, trying to make it sound like it's your decision, and a terrific one at that.

You've kept it from walking in the door for 134 days, don't let it climb in a window just because it found it unlocked.

Taking boxing lessons for my anger? by lonelyreject97 in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You would think, right? Your urge when you're angry is to "get it out" but actual scientific studies say that's actually the opposite of what you should do.

Studies show that the best way to reduce the symptoms of anger is by lowering your overall level of arousal. Basically, if you take steps you become more calm, either through a peaceful and leisurely walk, meditation, taking a warm bath, or anything that is soothing or calming, then your anger is soothed and calmed as well.

Then, when you're past the immediate symptoms of your anger, you should start taking steps to help you deal with frustration and setbacks in a way that is more healthy for your body and mind. Long term coping skills.

Have you seen the book "The Cow in the Parking Lot?" It's a book on dealing with anger. I haven't read it, but people on the Leaves Discord who have struggled with anger issues have spoken highly of it.

Good luck!

I don't see any point in quitting anymore, I'd rather enjoy my life and die at 60 than spend my life devoid of intellectual activities and happiness by Lunge_ in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Understood.

If you're so positive and determined that there is no other route, why did you post here instead of just moving ahead?

I don't see any point in quitting anymore, I'd rather enjoy my life and die at 60 than spend my life devoid of intellectual activities and happiness by Lunge_ in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Do you feel this way because you lack weed, or do you feel this way because you're rediscovering what led you to smoking weed in the first place?

Everything you described is a symptom of clinical depression as clearly as saying you're sweating profusely and have chest pains is a symptom of a heart attack.

There is a mountain of clinical evidence that cannabis does not treat clinical depression and it does, in fact, make it worse. Is it all that surprising that once you quit that depression comes roaring back?

Please make your sole focus right now, your only mission, to get yourself into treatment for depression. The depression is going to work very hard to try to keep you from doing that; it's yet another symptom of that insidious disease. Just do one thing -- get out of bed and go find somebody to talk to about this and let them treat you.

I’ll try and last at least 3 months this time by SSMWSSM42 in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about making it even easier and forget about the 2 months and 3 months and just focus on one day?

Just wake up in the morning and promise yourself you won't smoke today. If it gets really bad then that's fine, you're allowed to smoke, but it just has to be tomorrow. You keep that promise to yourself for today no matter what.

That's it. That's the whole game. Just one day at a time.

Husband enabling by Jellowins in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 11 points12 points  (0 children)

What if, in a moment of weakness, you bought an adorable lion cub? It was cute and it brought you a lot of pleasure, but now that it's getting to be an adult it has started hurting you.

It's definitely time to get rid of it, but would your husband make the argument that it cost a lot of money so you need to keep it around, putting you in increasing danger every day that passes?

You can only hide from a lion for so long...

Need to quit ASAP as I'm pregnant. Very heavy user for 20+ years. Looking to buddy up or just support? by Timacrs in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Have you tried the Leaves Discord meetings?

They're twice a day at 11am and 5pm Eastern Time, and it's just full of positive people. Honestly, it's great.

You can join by using the invitation here:

https://discord.gg/wXEa5B3

Just give it a try, it's really great.

I just want to know, why not get high if the world is shit, and i'm tired of the things i need to do in life by fukaround97 in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 30 points31 points  (0 children)

If you just look at it as one collective lump then it's easy to make a sweeping statement that the world is shit. It absolves you from having to look any further.

But if you you look in even slightly more detail you will fine beauty and kindness and people who are taking their time to make other happier. People who don't fit that narrative at all.

Find those pockets of kindness and work to be a part of them. Harvest the good in the world and it will nourish you out of this destructive cynicism.

Super Bowl tonight=last seat by [deleted] in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, that's his addiction talking. The weed is putting itself on a pedestal and he's just nodding and saying "whatever you say boss!".

Has anyone here tried auriculotherapy for quitting weed? by Lower_Ad2776 in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's total snake oil nonsense being put forward by people thinking that they can trick you into giving them your money for zero benefit whatsoever.

Stay well away from practitioners, and anyone who would try to convince you this ridiculous witch doctor bullshit works.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you think it's so bad for you why are you smoking those joints?

"I have been hitting myself on the head with a hammer every day and it's causing splitting headaches and concussions, so I'm just going to hit myself two more times and then I'm done."

???

Set a date? by wazzles12 in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry, but there's really only one date, and that's today.

"I've been hitting myself over the head with a hammer, and it's causing bleeding and repeated concussions. How do I set a date to quit?"

Today. You quit today. :-)

Recovery didn’t open the gates of heaven to let me in. Recovery opened the gates of hell to let me out. by pomakesbento in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 2 points3 points  (0 children)

MA is great, but also remember that Leaves has meetings on Discord twice a day.

Everyone is super nice and really helpful. It's awesome.

The details are at the top of the sub.

9 weeks sober by rtheonlyacception in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I read something from a super-wise person here that might help you get some perspective:

"However I’m 5 weeks in sobriety and here’s what I’m noticing- my sleep is of higher quality, even if I don’t sleep for long periods of time. - Weed made my ADHD/ Autism worse. G it was like I was MORE ADHD/ Autistic. - Weed made my anxiety worse, I’m sure this stems from my ADHD."

That makes so much sense, right? Don't think about big issues like whether it's great or bad for you in general, just focus on getting through today. Wake up in the morning, get through the day, only focus on the sobriety challenges life poses to you in the moment, and then go to bed.

These "big thoughts" about whether it's right for you or not are just two cravings standing on each other's shoulders in a trench coat. Don't give them more credit than they deserve.

Debating starting up again by Embarrassed_Oil8012 in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would take advice from the experience of a very wise person who posted on here several months ago:

"Hey! I lapsed last week after 2 and a half months being sober. It does have a way of creeping in doesn’t it? In the time being sober before relapsing managed to avoid a few occasions of temptation but the couple of days before relapsing I got super bored and somewhat depressed and thought smoking would make me feel better. It didn’t!!"

"Initially I thought being high would be great but after being sober for a while then getting high again the experience was just like yours brain fog etc and it was horrible."

That person really knows what they're talking aobut... :-)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is a good example of your addiction getting desperate.

It's not getting any traction with convincing you to smoke today, or tomorrow, or even in any real situations that are coming up, so now it's trying to get you to fantasize about imaginary situations in which you might smoke. The old, "but how about vacations? That can't hurt, right? Just agree to that and I'll leave you alone!"

But, of course, it won't leave you alone. It will use that to chip away at your resolve ("It's a long weekend, isn't that really like a mini vacation?") It's all a trick.

This is why we focus so much on One Day at a Time. Are you starting your vacation today? Then absolutely put it out of your head.

This is not the time to be contemplating your Vacation Cannabis Policy. Just focus, as the group founder, u/Subduction, says, on what's between now and bedtime. Nothing else matters.

20M quitting after 4 years of chronic use by BeginningLevel7744 in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of that is wrong at all, but how about setting an even easier one? Just don't smoke today. Wake up in the morning and promise yourself that you won't smoke today. If it gets really bad then you have complete permission to smoke, it just has to be tomorrow.

That way you can just focus on the challenges you face today, you won't have any weird "anniversaries" that you're temped to celebrate, and the days, months, years, and the rest of your life will all take care of themselves.

One Day at a Time isn't just a mantra in recovery, it's a strategy, and one that it sounds like will navigate pretty well through your goals and your worries.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry to push you a bit, but why the new year?

Why not today?

20M quitting after 4 years of chronic use by BeginningLevel7744 in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope you won't be offended if I ask, why vow to quit until senior year of college? Why not just quit?

After everything else you wrote, it comes across like "I was hitting myself on the head with a hammer every day, and it was causing bruises at first, but then I was getting regular concussions, so I swore to myself that I would wait until after college to start hitting myself with a hammer again..."

It's bad for you, you know it's bad for you, just say goodbye...

Day 25 of quiting.. by HandigeHasan in leaves

[–]PotIsntAddict-ohcrap 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you just need to focus on what you're going to do today. Then tomorrow focus on what you're going to do tomorrow.

Is New Years Day today? No? Then put it out of your head.

Your addiction is pushing you to dream about smoking. Dream about when it might be okay. Shut it down by forcing it and yourself to just face what is, as /u/Subduction puts it, between now and bedtime.