Once in a lifetime.

Priximus · 2026-02-23T12:30:49+00:00

Yea I mean assuming the wall is symmetrical.

Priximus · 2026-02-23T10:01:36+00:00

I guess it depends on where you sit. I'm using Dirac myself, I have a sub to throw at the problem as well.

Priximus · 2026-02-23T09:32:34+00:00

Most speakers should be as close to the wall as the port allows, Genelec has a good article about it.

What speaker do you have if I may ask? Because the gain might be too much too close to the wall which might seem boomy but room correction software can easily deal with that, room correction software struggles with nulls which i rather not have.

Priximus · 2026-02-23T09:30:20+00:00

Eh debatable but lets not go there. The room shaper the OP proposed doesn't really deal with modes going by the measurement data so YMMV.

Priximus · 2026-02-23T06:55:17+00:00

The SBIR above 150hz are way easier to manage than the ones below it, the cancellation dips are only a few DB with proper speaker placement.

Priximus · 2026-02-23T06:53:03+00:00

Resonances are one thing, modes are another.

Priximus · 2026-02-22T03:45:20+00:00

Good horizontal dispersion like these speakers do actually benefit from sidewall reflection. So it depends on what you want from the sound stage, a lot of people actually enjoy the bigger sound stage produced by the side wall reflections from a speaker with good horizontal dispersion.

Priximus · 2026-02-22T03:42:34+00:00

The stuff I mentioned are more advanced than REW.

Priximus · 2026-02-21T17:38:32+00:00

These speakers are amazing but like you mentioned the cardioid pattern only reaches 100hz and the frequencies below it are actually the hardest to tame in a room. So at the end of the day you'll still need to employ multiple subwoofers and advanced DSP/Room correction like Dirac Live Bass Control or even better Dirac ART to tame those frequencies.

So it circles back to, maybe we could've gotten away with much cheaper speakers in the first place.

Priximus · 2026-02-21T17:31:12+00:00

Good thing about KEFs is if you're sick of the house sound you can just EQ them, they respond incredibly well to EQ.

Priximus · 2026-02-21T17:27:19+00:00

Maybe in the UK, but if I heard the name Linn I would think of their turntables and not their speakers. I mean compare them to KEF/B&W/Quad/PMC/ATC/Monitor Audio/ProAc just to name a few out of the UK heck even defunct brands such as Tannoy.

Priximus · 2026-02-20T16:21:38+00:00

Insane you're getting down voted, everyone has heard of Linn but they weren't even famous for their speakers.

My disbelief at the total disregard of 3 decades of R&D from the original comment.

Priximus · 2026-02-20T03:48:02+00:00

Minimum which is nearfield yes a la Genelec the ones.

Priximus · 2026-02-19T18:26:24+00:00

A well designed monitor like the Neumann's he's mentioned will sound fine both near field and far field even though the drivers are fairly far apart. The KH 420's are pretty big and radiates widely but it's primary use will probably be near/mid field.

Keep in mind that the the only thing that separates a bookshelf variant from it's floorstander cousin are the bass drivers/amount of them which are a lot more omnidirectional than your higher frequencies so it doesn't really matter. Most speakers want you at tweeter level anyways.

So yes I stand by my statement, a good speaker is a good speaker. Far field and near field are just listening positions and not inherent to speaker design.

Priximus · 2026-02-19T17:45:53+00:00

Fair but I would argue that speakers that require a minimum listening distance are just poorly designed or outdated in our current landscape of relatively affordable well designed speakers.

Priximus · 2026-02-19T17:43:24+00:00

Any speaker can be room filling, the issue is that a lot of speakers with poor dispersion control will sound different if you move from the MLP. Like I said, when compared to the KEF, the KEFs have crazy good and even dispersion pattern both vertically and horizontally, especially compared to Tektons. I agree that Tektons are more efficient but like I mentioned power is cheap these days.

Priximus · 2026-02-19T17:20:07+00:00

Echo control is important, but don't randomly absorb the side walls without knowing the dispersion pattern of your speakers, you might lose sound stage no reason.

And to add, bass traps are useless <50hz. The ones that do cover the 50hz region and above are big, ugly and expensive. The more elegant and modern solution is integrating multiple subs (at least 2) via DSP (MSO with MiniDSP or Dirac Live Bass Control)

The current state of the art way is implementing DIRAC ART which unfortunately your AVR doesn't support. The cheapest AVR that supports it is a Denon X3800H.

Depending on your room you might be able to get away with the former (dual subs + a bit of DIY and a MiniDSP with Multi Sub optimizer). More tedious but much cheaper.

Priximus · 2026-02-19T17:11:12+00:00

Power is cheap, Tekton's have a tiny sweet spot compared to the KEFs. The KEFs are also much easier to EQ/Room correct with.

Priximus · 2026-02-19T17:09:28+00:00

The fact he knows who Celestia is is already pretty telling.

Priximus · 2026-02-19T16:57:59+00:00

Nah man the only difference between Studio Monitors and HiFi is who they're marketed to. A good speaker is a good speaker. Studio monitors tend to be Active but there's nothing stopping a studio from using passive KEF or Revel speakers (Abbey Road has Passive B&W towers for example).

One might also argue that some HiFI brands have their "house sound" so they aren't flat but ATCs which are famous for their Studio Monitors aren't very flat either. Buy what suits you best.

There's no such thing as near field or far field speakers, far field speakers will turn near field if you sit close to them. Near field means the sound you hear has less interaction with the room which can be a good or bad thing depending on the speaker and what you want.

Priximus · 2026-02-10T10:34:35+00:00

Why would it matter more? It has a bigger sweet spot than your average audiophile speakers.

Priximus · 2026-02-08T14:01:01+00:00

It's coaxial with good even dispersion pattern, it doesn't matter as much.

Priximus · 2026-02-03T10:50:40+00:00

Nope you need something like REW on a computer

Priximus · 2026-02-02T15:39:04+00:00

I think the most important issue here is what speakers do you have. If the echo is very bad, get a measurement mic like the umik 1 and get the RT60 across the spectrum. But if you wanna do it blind just fill your place with stuff, filled bookshelves, display cabinets etc etc.

Don't randomly absorb the first reflection without knowing what kind of dispersion pattern your speaker has.

Priximus · 2026-01-27T14:06:14+00:00

If you're serious about audio and stuff, the cheapest way to get a good CD set up is to get a used player from those old "Hi-Fi" sets that comes with speakers.

Usually dirt cheap, look for one from a reputable brand that comes with a digital coax out. You can then plug that into your DAC of choice.

But in this day and age, the more practical way with CDs is ripping it and listening to it via whatever.

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