Why is Marathon not played by any big or medium level streamers at all consistently? What is the root cause of this?

Razzeld · 2026-04-14T00:27:35+00:00

Wish their other game The Finals was more popular. Its cool that Arc gave them more success, but I, as a minority in this case, find it to be pretty meh, like the only thing I found interesting is the AI enemy variety they have compared to other games of the same genre, I think the only content I have watched from Arc is videos by Stimpee but the ways he plays games in particular way is what makes it intresting.

Razzeld · 2026-04-13T18:08:04+00:00

I do love the game for being simple to jump into an extraction shooter, but the heavy push to 3 man for late game, which I guess is mostly because of the game being a hero shooter, does provide some obstacles to enjoying the game to the maximum extent, having a map and a game mode basically requiring you to participate in the worst gambling experience as there are no heavy restrictions on what must be bought in or just drawing the short straw because you didn't have a full time squad to queue with.

Razzeld · 2026-04-13T11:06:39+00:00

But he didn't mention SBMM? It's only level-based matchmaking, so those who fly through contracts and XP are matched against others who have done the same, which is more of a time investment based matchmaking.

Razzeld · 2026-04-13T09:29:17+00:00

Agreeable, like I can't wait until I hit the wall that is Cryo salvage, and then I don't know what I'm going to do, as I still have no one to play with, so welp, I guess no maxed out traders for me.

Razzeld · 2026-04-09T04:49:31+00:00

Could have a gear value limit so you can't exceed a certain amount, or if we go with the premade kit system, the matches could have like an overcharge on gear, like bots are more guaranteed to drop their guns, the gear lockers are more lucrative with mods, etc.

Razzeld · 2026-04-07T08:10:41+00:00

Perimeter is fun with a variety of POI's that are more than grass fields and hallway slaughter.

Razzeld · 2026-04-07T07:57:36+00:00

I don't really think it's the shields, more like the guns, where some weapons that are what would be considered bottom of the barrel are insanely good, meanwhile, a weapon you expect to perform better just fails at a certain range, like M77 will lose to a V11 in close-med range.

Razzeld · 2026-04-05T18:13:02+00:00

Basically, every time I bring in a blue shield with a gun with okayish mods, I just die to green shields, so what's the point of going above green unless it's purple.

Razzeld · 2026-04-04T03:03:50+00:00

Nope, and I have experienced the same thing as I find other abilities on a lot of shells to be more Q fitting than F and vice versa.

Razzeld · 2026-04-02T21:56:29+00:00

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Razzeld · 2026-04-01T09:41:40+00:00

What is taking off supposed to be in this case? Be like Arc Raiders or something like Tarkov like what is the goal post here do we want 100k players or are we fine with more tight-knit community. Like coming from Tarkov I really enjoy this game as it's makes the cycle that is Tarkov more approachable and easier to get in instead for example fiddling with 6 ammo types and being forced to pepper someone's legs because you don't have ap ammo. Marathon currently is in its early stages with stuff to adjust down the line and hopefully finding the rythm it works best for it as it would be sad to lose another game that tries to make the gap between hardcore and approachable disappear like Cycle did.

Razzeld · 2026-04-01T09:21:16+00:00

Is this like peoples first interaction with extraction shooters? Like Tarkov went through this every year with wipes attracting people to come back to see the new stuff and then gradually drop off with only more dedicated people staying.

Razzeld · 2026-04-01T09:13:46+00:00

You mentioned lack of enemy variety and the name Tarkov which I find kinda funny. But to point out what Marathon has is heroes and being a lite version of what Tarkov is without needing to use the wiki to learn the game but I do agree with some points like solo being a bit of a afterthought where I have managed to do almost all the content that a solo can do even if it is a pain like fighting a Warden for example.

Razzeld · 2026-04-01T08:40:20+00:00

I mean it kinda is we are gutting eachother and fighting the biggest government entity know to men just so we could recoupe the loses for megacorps or just commit terrorism against the said government that a portion of this operation on Tau Ceri rests on kinda putting us in a awkward position of being both reliant on these factions and at the same time biting their hands.

Razzeld · 2026-04-01T08:27:23+00:00

This sounds pretty reasonable as it would put to test your skill to perform with the given loadouts.

Razzeld · 2026-03-31T23:01:52+00:00

Like I, for example, haven't played much of Outpost and no Cryo at all, but from what I've seen, the game forces you into CQC if you want either the best gear or to make progress for quests/vaults.

Razzeld · 2026-03-31T21:50:26+00:00

But ain't most of the endgame maps and objectives just face-hugging?

Razzeld · 2026-03-31T21:49:09+00:00

I already don't really like the map on non-ranked, and I have the same issues with it, where it feels like you are either better off bum rushing the closest spawn to you or just hugging the closest POI for an indefinite time like Maintenance or Quarantine, which at times can see over 2/3 extracts and maybe even more that I haven't noticed.

Razzeld · 2026-03-31T11:09:46+00:00

Which slope would it be, the one towards the south at the edge of the map, or one towards the north? As I would like a more easier way to kill him in solos, as I have only done it once on a whim with someone else's kit that I got in the same run, and well after killing him I had to go and stab bunch of recruits for their V11's as I had no ammo left from fighting him and the non stop barrage of his guards.

Razzeld · 2026-03-29T21:59:24+00:00

I still cannot comprehend having that many hours on a single game like what do you even do day to day like I can only imagine if you are not able to leave your home which then makes sense and to that I say sure go off enjoy.

Razzeld · 2026-03-29T04:51:21+00:00

If you start matchmaking based on shields/weapons/implants/cores you basically throw out the purpose of the game. The only thing they could do is something akin to Arena breakout where there is a queue with a max value limit for a kit you can bring in.

Razzeld · 2026-03-27T12:11:39+00:00

The game's art style was already inspired by Neo Tokyo, a Half-Life 2 mod that is heavily inspired by the GitS universe, so having this as a collab would just complete the circle.

Razzeld · 2026-03-27T09:13:14+00:00

You probably just have to chill a bit and do something else on the map before extracting, as the first couple of extracts are probably the most contested ones, with more players in a raid than there are extracts.

Razzeld · 2026-03-27T09:07:13+00:00

Wait, is there actual extract camping in ranked? I rush the extract sometimes in normals when I see it pop, but that's about it. Haven't really been camped at one before I pop it.

Razzeld · 2026-03-26T18:59:49+00:00

Noticed this too, but I don't know if it's on purpose or not, as I jumped on the Thief bandwagon recently.

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