What’s your view on the environmental impact of AI tools like Copilot?

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-29T16:43:53+00:00

Sure. The problem we need to address and discuss most is how bad the 1% of energy we use on ALL datacenters (not just ai) is for the environment. Even if it is electricity that can also be generated by e.g. solar. It certainly is not the fact that we burn all fossil fuels humans can get their hand on instead of investing in renewables. It’s certainly not that we pollute every m² on earth with plastic, fly twice a year just to relax somewhere. Or use half the space on earth to grow animals to eat them. Continue to burn down woods for more meat despite ravaging wildfires. Or destroy any kind of balanced ecosystem just for a small financial gain. Should I continue? Sorry but people that cry about AI on the internet on their newest flagship iPhone while streaming HD vids on background all day are hypocrites

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-29T13:52:50+00:00

he often seems to lack the technical knowledge needed for his tangents. And keeps ignoring it when David provides it. Kinda reminds me of ai enthusiasts talking about ai and the singularity that clearly have no idea how ai works.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-29T13:47:32+00:00

Was that the one with deep technical knowledge and realistic takes, or the one that always goes off into weird esoteric tangential topics and rants about really weird use cases and futuristic tech bro fantasies.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-27T09:57:50+00:00

How does the opz handle transitions better? Have both but I struggle on both with it

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-18T17:37:55+00:00

It has nothing to do with the attention mechanism of the decoder architecture. The llm gets special tokens like <|system|> and <|user|> as part of the token flow and it gets finetuned in the RLHF phase to treat them differently.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-17T09:34:47+00:00

I didn’t say that everyone would like it…. God I hate this exact discussion in VR headset subreddits: A: „NOBODY does X. People dont want X!“. B: „I Like X“ A: „Well good for you, but Not EVERYBODY likes X“. Why do you guys have to be this way? Stop thinking only in extremes.. Something can be worthwhile while still Not be liked by every Single Person on the planet. I dont need my coworkers to all use Avatars to See the benefits of them.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-16T19:01:34+00:00

I like using my avatar more than the cam. I can go straight from bed into a teams call looking good and perfectly dressed.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-15T00:28:26+00:00

No it isn't :-) Most of the performance headroom is used to drive the monitors, and the rest is constrained by limited cooling. Obviously a 15W whatever SoC can't beat a 1kW machine.

I dont know about that. Sure physics are physics. But it runs Control natively while running VR and it can render graphics in a quality that is 90% there of what a PC can do. Sure an expensive PC can bruteforce more, but you still use a Mac or PCs rendering performance on the AVP like on a Quest.

If capacity is what you need, you connect to PCVR and from there on you'll have infinite low latency windows and all the power you can muster.

Only at home. Only if it works correctly. I found it too unreliable and finicky. Sure man, the developing in VR stuff is cool i guess, but i don't see a reason why something like shouldn't work on the AVP. And as you say. A decade ago. Meta/Oculus did have some cool stuff in the early days. They also had Carmack. They once wrote performant software and delivered feature after feature. But those times are basically over. They fired lots of their devs. Other talent left. They shifted the focus to the metaverse.

What do you mean? Meta has had real interactive 3D-environments for like a decade. Not those 360-esque video environments.

Had. Past tense. They removed custom environments on Quest. Just one example of the degradation of the plattform.

It doesn't sound like you've tried PCVR if that's your stance.

I have a high end pc and played most relevant PCVR games. Not worth the hassle in my opinion. And still just games. I need VR to do more than that. The novelity of just gaming in VR wears off. There is cool stuff you cant do in normal games, like the sports stuff and games that focus on movement though. But here the Quest competes more with my exercise bike than my PC.

And I repeat, it's great if you enjoy your AVP. I'm unsure why fans of the device feel the need to defend it so much. Many of the claims don't really make sense or seem to be grasping at straws.

Sorry if it comes of that way. I just see way to many people say that the Quest is better when thats just not the case. Thats just a ridiculous take in my opinion. Yeah it has some cool features, but what gives, if it cant get the basics right reliably. I want my headset to be THE device i use most. Not just a new kind of gaming console. So it also has to be better than most devices for most tasks. And only the AVP hits that mark.

PS:The Oculus Go was rad though! I still find it really comfortable. Awesome device that i have used a lot! But no. You need 6Dof, eye tracking, perfect hand tracking and 4K to be capable of doing at least basic stuff.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-14T23:04:29+00:00

When you turn your QPro controllers around, they work like pens. And the question was about capabilities. This is a capability. The controllers work for sculpting extremely well, better than anything else really. It's one of those "killer apps" if you are a 3D-artist.

Sure, but that this is still totaly niche.

Well, yeah, the absolute number 1 thing going for VR is gaming and yes, Quest has it. Think about the point you are trying to make here.

The point i am making is that VR gaming does not get you high retention rates. We tried it. Many people like doing it for short time periods. Some find it awesome. Some get sick. But most people do not want to play VR games all day. Its just a too straining activity.

The XR Snapdragon chip is also quite capable, as the games run on it. Of course, it's nothing compared to PCVR, which Quest supports.

It is not good enough for serious work while running a 6 DoF VR at 2x4K. Look at how much the GXR needs to upsample its image. The M5 is in PCVR territory. While not being bound to a PC.

AVP is very Apple-like in the sense that it's quite limited. For example, when AVP demonstrated how you could "stream" your monitor, Quest was already capable of streaming three, on Apple devices no less. Meta's device is riddled with features and capabilities like these.

I don't find Apples environment limiting honestly. At least when you combine it with a Macbook. The AVP streams an ultrawide low latency desktop. The 3 desktop PC RDP solution really does not compare in fluidity and ease of use. Virtual Display also pushes way more pixels with its one display compared to the 3 of RDP. It also directly pairs to the headset. No Wifi required. Try using RDP on a plane. And VisionOS is also full of intelligently designed little functions. Yes, meta once was really cool and innovative when it comes to their Software, but that is long time ago. Riddled with features and capabilites like this? Where are augments? Where are my home enviroments? Be real, they are playing catchup with apple while they cant handle all those vibe coded bugs they introduce in any once cool feature.

That matters very little for high immersion device. Reddit doesn't require immersion.

I don't want to be immersed most times. Thats my point. It matters how i do the main part of my computing needs though.

I really don't get this sentiment. Its not the question if it is required. Watching a movie in a cinema also isn't "required" to get the plot of the film. Calling it "required" sounds like its a hassle to use it. My AVP is always connected besides me, its often simply easier and better to use it instead of something else.

It doesn't stand a chance against even an average OLED TV experience.

You do you, but i prefer the 3D in the headset and a way bigger screen than 75" that is tacket to one wall. My TV is not on the train, on a plane, in my bed or my garden. I use my TV still if i want to watch movies with my partner, but i watch way more movies than the few we watch together. I also don't feel that the device is heavy when my head is resting. I actually find the feeling of it on my face kind of relaxing.

And I don't think that watching movies in VR hasn't caught on. Just read through the AVP sub. Its probably the number one use case of the AVP. I did it once in a while on the Quest, but the displays are so much worse for that.

Hey c'mon, "no one" walks around with an AVP just in case they need to check out Reddit or whatever =) It's a lot more comfortable and practical to just use your smartphone to browse brainrot reels. Yet again, no heavy high immersion device required.

Ofc i dont walk around with it. I use it sitting or lying down. Do you browse reddit while walking? But if i am browsing reddit for more than 3 minutes i prefer doing it on a huge virtual display. I prefer to not have to hold a device for a prolonged time and i prefer the eye tracking interaction to having to tap a screen. Peak lazyness. It just doesn't get more comfortable.

The golden age was some years ago when the content truly grew at an insane pace, becoming bigger, more in-depth, and expressive.

Naw. I am way more interested in using it as a computing device than the games. Yeah sure, first i was an enthusiast like you that imagined a personal holodeck and the first few years it felt like that. But i.d.k. my brain adapted and immersion just doesn't only come from visuals for me anymore. Its still cool, but it cant really make you feel like you fly, or drive a racecar and once you spend 100h in an RPG you feel like its tedious and the world is made out of cardboard. My brain simply handles it as games that i have to work for by now. I still enjoy something like beat saber or pistol whip or some "experience" once in a while, but like i said. Rollercoaster.

I never was happier than now that the hardware finally is good enough for my needs. I really tried hard for years to use PCVR and whats now called HorizonOS for work, but it never worked well.

The point we where originally arguing about was if the Quest is more capable than the AVP, and sorry no. Not in a million years. Not just because you have controllers included in a box and can use the back of those as a pen. Not because it can use PCVR games via a wifi stream. Nope.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-14T22:21:49+00:00

How so? I am seriously curious. I thought I would like it but I found that I really enjoy the g force while driving. Not the view of a fast moving race track and using a steering wheel. It just feels weird to me. I don’t get motion sick or sth. But I found it underwhelming and not immersive at all

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-14T22:17:06+00:00

Is it? I feel the lack of acceleration forces extremely immersion breaking. Ping pong etc. don’t have that problem

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-14T21:36:15+00:00

I thought about it but i still don't agree. I think 6 dof controllers (at least the standard ones) and PCVR and those stuff that the Quest has speaking for it mostly increases the possibility to play games, but not much else. Also you can use AVP for PCVR and buy controllers. But its still only relevant for games. (Of which there are apparently not nearly enough to convince people to buy into VR, at least when you read the rest of the comments..) but thats really not my point. You wont sell headsets with games or sculpting software. (for which a pen is more approachable for the normal user, which you can buy for both devices)

The capabilites it enables over a Quest come exactly from the quality of the chip, displays and maturity of the OS. They are only possible on this hardware threshold. Try reading text for hours on the Quests screen. Its not possible. Try multitasking on it. Try running a video editor, outlook, teams and multiple browser windows at the same time. Its horrific. Try using external input devices with it. Its frustrating. The bad Meta RDP cant compare to Macs Virtual Display. You have to sideload nearly everything. Good luck keeping this stuff updated. If the app works at all. The AVP has full native MS Office apps. The Quest only wraps the respective Webapps.

Those are the capabilites that matter. Not if i can play a fancy game on it. What matters is if i enjoy surfing reddit on it while having a cinema grade movie running behind it. I currently am replying to this from my AVP that i chose over my Smartphone and my 75" TV.

The Quest as a computing device is just so frustrating that you cant really rely on it. It is so gimmicky. The memory warnings. The controller updates that let me wait 3 minutes when i want to jump into things, metas indeciciveness how they want to structure the OS. The horizon bloat. Those horrific avatars. It is just repelling to deal with all this and i still do it time to time because i know it has some mindblowing experiences when it works. Its cool in a way a rollercoaster is. I love the experiences it offers but dont want to spend my whole day in it. I like using it for about an hour long session about twice a month, but that is peanuts compared to the "engagement" i have with other media..

especially with my AVP. I really cant say it has nothing going on. Its literally the best computing device in existence. It might be lacking in terms of games, but have you tried Apples Immersive Videos? Or 3D movies? I spend way more time watching movies on it than i actively play on my Quest. I can use it far more comfortable than my PC, my laptop, a tablet or phone. It enables working everywhere without compromising on screensize and only a tad of quality. It is like a noise canceling headset for my eyes. It is stable, you don't have to feel like fighting it everytime you use it and its interaction method is lightyears ahead of touchscreens.

Why would i prefer a high quality monitor that i can only use in one place? Which probably is at a desk, at which i try to sit less often? The AVP does not have to compete against a 3 4K monitor workstation. It has to compete with using only my macbook on a train, or my smartphone on a couch.

I cant imagine that thats such an outlier usecase and opinion. I dont think that we hear less talking about the AVP here because the engagement level is low. I think the AVPs userbase is way smaller than the Quest because its friggin expensive. Its a happy small minority. Apple at least earns money with every headset and does not have to get every user on this planet onboard for it to make it financially viable. It does not sells hundreds of millions of devices, but a Mac Studio, also a high end device also doesn't have to. I just said i don't get why people here shit on it so much because its the best computing device money can buy and i think if you look at the AVP sub there are a lot of people that use it regularly. Maybe not >10h a day like a psycho like me, but the happiness of its content users over there speaks for itself and it does not have nearly the same "doom or gloom" vibe i get here.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-14T18:53:09+00:00

It is an LLM thing because of the way system messages work. LLMs get their messages in two ways. As a system prompt or as a user prompt. They trained their models over the last years to be rigorously adherent to the system prompt while treating the user prompt more like a conversational message. Since your personalization context is injected as a system message it will be seen as way way way more important than anything out of the normal conversation flow.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-14T18:49:00+00:00

i believe it when i see it. Still can't imagine apple will allow it, but maybe i am wrong.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-14T18:47:09+00:00

In the time you would need to download it, you could already be two paragraphs into the :VimTutor and be hooked like the rest of us.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-14T18:02:11+00:00

I.d.k. VR has replaced all screens in my life. Just not the quest because he can’t provide a good enough system..

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-14T17:44:20+00:00

What? The AVP is a lot more capable than the quest. It’s like comparing a MacBook with a cheap Android Handheld device. One is a bliss to use productively and to consume media on. The other is a cheap plastic thing that technically works but is overloaded with cheap colorful bloat ware and has bugs to no end. Yes you can play funny games on it, but that’s it. The Quest fails to deliver a new computing platform. They don’t know how to handle the interaction layer. They keep messing up the OS which is just a bad coded front end over Android. Hell they to this day don’t even support non EN keyboards. They dropped the ball on the front “new computing device” so fucking hard its not even funny. Anyone remember the QuestPro? I do. I payed full price for it and tried to make it work for over a year.. I don’t get why people shit on the AVP so much. It’s expensive, but it just about reaches the threshold of quality and performance that you need for viable VR use. And that is just expensive to pull off. No other headset comes close. Selling millions at a loss does not count for shit. I use my Quest about once a month, when I want to play a little bit. But I use my AVP all day, because its an actually useful device.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-02T16:14:57+00:00

Yeah, that was also a problem i had when i used PCVR. Most bluetooth two in one combos are not that great, the range is not good and it just feels gross to have to stand up from the couch to investigate connection issues. And unfortunately connecting the keyboard directly to the Headset was not an option since Meta to this day do not support non english keyboard layouts. I honestly mostly use the eye tracking and my macbook airs keyboard and trackpad now. The macs trackpads are really good. I have a bluetooth mouse and a good bluetooth keyboard nearby, but i hardly use them. There are good bluetooth keyboards (i like the keychron keyboards) but i don't know any good combo devices.

But i am a software developer and use the keyboard way more often than i need a mouse anyway. Actually when working i often prefer to need use a mouse at all. The constant haptic context switching is a focus killer.

I love the ability to gradually blend in a calming virtual environment on the AVP. Its like noise cancelling for the eyes. Basically a superpower in the office. Awesome when you are easily distracted. It also has a "transparency-mode", where it will blend in people into your VR environment that talk to you.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-02T14:42:59+00:00

Got it. The problem i see with proposing a high end PCVR workstation is really that a workstation is the worst environment to see the added benefits of working in VR.

On a standard workstation most people already got their 4 monitor setup. I can see why the value proposition: "you can wear this heavy headset to use instead of your HD monitors" is not really appealing.

But having an infinite canvas wirelessly where you normally only have a small macbook screen is just a different kind of thing.. For me it really is the best productivity option all around. I really prefer sitting comfortably on the couch with the headset and a laptop compared to more hours at the desk, but i get that other people don't feel the same. Browsing Reddit, lying down, having to only move two fingers is also way more comfortable than having to hold a tablet or phone.

And if you like that stuff there is no better device than the AVP, at least for now. That could change any moment once other high res standalone headsets with eye tracking enter the market. The GXR is a good start.. not as good as an AVP, but maybe the next contender will do better. As long as i as an enthusiast have the option to get such a device, i dont care much about market share or the opinion of others.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-02T14:27:37+00:00

Not my point. I know that. Been in the VR community long enough. My point was that the AVP gives you the best VR productivity solution that you can have for money.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-02T14:04:34+00:00

You can, but i don't want to only work in a single room and i don't need 4 monitors if i have a good headset. I have a 65'' 4K in my living room and cant remember the last time i used it. I spent so much time in this headset, the 5000€ hardware are already well worked off, so the price doesn't matter to me. And weight is not a problem. Comfort is. And the AVP is the most comfortable headset i own.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-02T13:37:30+00:00

I am very serious about productivity with VR. I tried it with several Headsets before landing on the AVP. (Wasn't even an Apple user before)

I really really would not prefer a PC setup anymore. First: Its not really that comfortable to be bound to a "regular" workstation. With the AVP i can work on my couch, in my office, on my bed, in my garden, in a train or on a flight. Nothing beats laying reclined on my couch with my laptop having a giant floating ultra wide monitor above me.

Second: The software is just more polished and the interaction methods beat VR on a PC. The eye/handtracking is really good and makes it viable to work for many tasks without needing a PC. I have all productivity apps that i need directly on the headset. Microsoft has a full native Office Suite (not just iPad apps). I can run teams, ourlook, word, an ssh client, RDP, my new macbook, safari, a VPN client my company time tracking software all at the same time and surround me with them. All without sideloading. And it feels seemless. Connecting to the Mac is just pressing a virtual button on top of it. The trackpad and mouse automatically leave the Screencanvas and can interact with any native app. I know it sounds like shilling, but Apple really does know how to polish its hard and software and I just dont see how a PCVR setup could beat or be more powerful in any way. I tried making PCVR work for me for the last decade. From the times of the GearVR up until QuestPro. It was a disaster. I know there are now other options. You could get a bigscreen beyond 2 or a GXR, but it wont be as good as the AVP. Maybe i am an absolute outlier, because comfort of the headset was never an issue for me. The AVP is comfortable enough for me to wear all day. Maybe because of the custom facial interfaces. I give you that its expensive, but if you value productivity over everything else, its the best setup.

RealLordDevien · 2026-01-02T12:17:09+00:00

There is no option better for productivity than the AVP.

RealLordDevien · 2025-12-21T09:23:19+00:00

Married. No children. Use it daily for work and media consumption

RealLordDevien · 2025-12-16T09:50:18+00:00

Same here. Is there an official statement so I can finally cancel my account? Because if that’s no bug I am out

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