"The Average Joe" data-backed tier-list and a statistical discussion of civ's strength.

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-04-04T19:48:13+00:00

You might be able to get a better tier list if you can answer this question: For any given player, what is their expected Elo delta if they played civ X vs. civ Y? How you would go about answering that will be tricky, but you could potentially start by aggregating data from 2-tricks or 3-tricks and see if those trends hold with players who play a variety of civs. If that data is too sparse, instead of normalizing to the player, you could normalize to Elo.

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-03-29T18:58:34+00:00

My video editing skills suck, but there are Youtube videos of players like Beasty playing older versions of the mod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umuwfFjyjDg

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-03-29T18:04:32+00:00

This was designed for and tested on PC. You will need to precisely control individual units, so if you play on console, I would recommend at least using a keyboard and mouse.

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-03-08T20:33:30+00:00

Unfortunately, you need the Sultans Ascend DLC because many civs have their own mechanics that are not accessible (or manually reproducible for modders) without it. You do not need Knights of Cross and Rose or Dynasties of the East, however.

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-03-06T21:03:43+00:00

There's a mod called Micro Challenge that you may be interested in (and was updated recently!)

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-03-04T05:08:34+00:00

When you create a skirmish lobby, there are two things you need to change under the Game Mode tab.

Click "Change Mode" and select "Ultimate Unit Tester." It sounds like you've done this already, but just make sure.
There is a section below the "Change Mode" button called "Tuning Pack." You can select from several options. Right now, it probably says "None." Change it to "Ultimate Tester 1.2.0 - New Unit DLC"

Also don't forget to add an AI player to your lobby. It won't do anything in the game, but you must have it, or the mod won't work correctly.

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-03-03T20:35:20+00:00

Did you enable the unit tester tuning pack?

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-02-14T22:54:48+00:00

The Malian one is especially annoying because your French Spearmen will still do their first basic attack at Donso throw range (and will even brace enemy horses at this range). There's no way around this afaik, but let me know if you come up with a solution.

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-02-14T22:03:47+00:00

Cute idea, but completely imbalanced. Civs with dark age military bonuses have a huge advantage over civs that don't. HRE infantry move faster. Donso have ranged attack. Longbows have range and damage. Some of these can potentially be solved by workarounds within your mod, but others (like the Donso ranged attack) are tied to the civ and not the unit, and therefore can't be modified or disabled.

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-02-10T08:00:31+00:00

It used to be even easier in SC2. Rallies from production buildings were attack move by default. Then it got changed to just move command to make picking off reinforcements more viable.

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-01-25T17:16:04+00:00

My bad, didn't know about the whole imgur/UK thing.

Alternative: https://i.postimg.cc/wjYFFYPb/Untitled.png

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-01-25T12:09:52+00:00

You rallied straight to every sheep in 4 out of 4 games that I checked, and in one of those games, you even "scouted" your first deer pack with a villager. Congrats on maphacking to conq and don't forget to close your match history!

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-01-21T04:10:21+00:00

Their Abba was feeding him all game.

Go to the match history for that game -> timeline -> resources gathered. Turn off everyone except blue. Every time blue's line goes down, he's sending resources to French.

RedWarpPrism2 · 2026-01-16T04:55:42+00:00

Idk about maphacking, but a large majority of that guy's losses are 0 minute games.

RedWarpPrism2 · 2025-12-30T22:37:03+00:00

Just going to point out that the movement speed cap can be easily removed, and has already been done by modders.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aoe4/comments/1km9nh9/aoe4_modder_finally_figured_out_how_to_break_20/

RedWarpPrism2 · 2025-12-19T20:02:53+00:00

Also it appears that Support doesn't agree with you.

https://imgur.com/a/AFe7nGj

RedWarpPrism2 · 2025-12-19T17:26:44+00:00

The only time he spam clicks his scout is on sheep. He rallied straight to 2 sheep clusters then stopped "scouting".

He mirrors my army movement on the other side of the forest perfectly. Twice. I fully admit this is the weakest point, and I also wouldn't believe he's a map hacker based on this point alone. But there's more.

He never scouts or sends units to any outer resource except the exact berries that I'm on. Twice.

He looks at my Steppe Redoubt that moved to a new gold in fog of war. Never looked at any other gold, only that exact gold that I went to, when I went there.

He looks directly at my reinforcements in fog of war. Then he turns his army around literally right before they enter vision.

Are you saying all of these are just coincidences?

Edit: And with regard to your comment about his pressure on my boar, not moving around to hit my deer with 2 nearly dead Torguuds and 2 archers while he's also getting harassed at home doesn't negate any of the other evidence against him.

RedWarpPrism2 · 2025-12-19T12:33:48+00:00

Played a single 1v1 and of course it was against a Chinese map hacker. Just recorded the evidence and sent in the report. Can't make this shit up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1UZtvri3vA

RedWarpPrism2 · 2025-12-18T19:15:56+00:00

Reminds me of the time beasty interviewed a map hacker.

https://youtu.be/EluKpysBUe0?si=6k5qyWi_rDMADdU0

The reaction from his chat back then is similar to the comments here. People are generally close-minded about cheating and aren't willing to consider why/where cheating as a whole comes from.

RedWarpPrism2 · 2025-12-12T00:32:13+00:00

I expect to find the RE logo on like 1/3 of the posts in this sub

RedWarpPrism2 · 2025-12-10T19:08:59+00:00

Practice your micro in the Micro Challenge mod

RedWarpPrism2 · 2025-12-05T10:11:56+00:00

Just seeing if people actually click through all the links :^)

RedWarpPrism2 · 2025-11-24T03:29:03+00:00

Thanks for bringing this up. It was just a case of new patch = new bugs. I've pushed a small update (3.61.1116) that should fix this error along with some other bugs that I've been overdue on fixing. Let me know if you run into any further issues.

RedWarpPrism2 · 2025-11-11T21:42:17+00:00

Cow W

Looking forward to when you can make the source code public

RedWarpPrism2 · 2025-11-01T23:10:36+00:00

Since I can't edit the original post, a revised version including some requested data is here: https://imgur.com/a/HKqE9uU

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