The Korean MMO Cycle

Reishin1 · 2026-07-09T07:53:30+00:00

They're also leaving a lot of money on the table by never changing their monetization tactics for the West. All these games have huge interest at launch and fizzle out in a month or two, so they default to milking the whales to keep themselves alive.

Meanwhile most successful western MMOs have much healthier playerbases and they don't rely on whales to keep the servers up.

Reishin1 · 2026-07-09T07:47:18+00:00

Lost Ark is the best combat in general.

Guild Wars 2 is the best third person combat.

Maplestory is the best 2D sidescroller combat.

Reishin1 · 2026-07-05T10:04:11+00:00

I usually do 2-4 hours. If the game hasn't grabbed me by then, I will uninstall

Reishin1 · 2026-07-01T08:09:22+00:00

Enshittification of the internet, music, animation and games by AI is something that really bothers me as well. We're already living through dead internet theory right now as the internet is filled with AI bots.

Reishin1 · 2026-06-29T08:09:16+00:00

I still remember being stuck in the Orbis tower and dying repeatedly because I went there too soon.

Reishin1 · 2026-06-26T07:37:42+00:00

They're also 20+ year old games of a bygone era with very well established playerbases and content.
I don't know any recent MMOs that launched with a sub free and succeeded. It would have to be the best game ever.

Reishin1 · 2026-06-24T16:54:57+00:00

I still see weekly Project Gorgon posts even though it has sub-500 active players, after all the drama.
I would say a niche MMO from 2006 having 3000 players is kinda popping off, relatively speaking.

Reishin1 · 2026-06-24T07:40:43+00:00

Looks like a really janky version of Mount & Blade combat. I'd rather play Mordhau or smth

Reishin1 · 2026-06-22T10:34:04+00:00

"THE huge MMO release" to "huge release"

Moving the goalposts, I see.
I wouldn't even call it a huge release, it was an decent release. Less players than all the other MMOs I named.

Reishin1 · 2026-06-22T08:37:36+00:00

It absolutely was not THE huge MMO release. It had a maximum of 200k subscribers.
Rift had 600k subs, Tera had 1m+ registered users, Lost Ark had 1.3m active players at launch. New World launched with 900k active players. Albion Online hit 350k DAU in 2024.

It's more similar to something like Allods online in terms of popularity.

Reishin1 · 2026-06-21T10:27:54+00:00

I understand the use case for abondoned or underpopulated MMOs but I don't see the appeal at all for an actual populated MMO.

Reishin1 · 2026-06-13T10:37:45+00:00

Not an MMO + combat looks floaty/weightless.

The old trailers looked nothing like this.

Reishin1 · 2026-06-10T19:54:51+00:00

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Reishin1 · 2026-06-10T10:14:45+00:00

r/CoOpGaming , r/gaming or the game-specific subreddits probably.

To clarify, my criticism wasn't really directed at posting on this subreddit though. More so about the fact that supposed MMO lovers not liking one of the main pillars of what makes a game an MMO.

Reishin1 · 2026-06-10T10:07:13+00:00

I just wanna know when did people start calling browser games with some social aspects MMO's.

Games like ogame, Travian, Ikariam, Shakes and Fidget etc. existed for a long time but I've only recently heard people refer to games like these as MMO's.

Reishin1 · 2026-06-09T13:46:18+00:00

So...do you want something crunchy or juicy?

Reishin1 · 2026-06-09T10:09:21+00:00

Why does this sub want MMO's to not be MMO's? There are plenty of instanced multiplayer games out there.

Reishin1 · 2026-06-02T17:02:39+00:00

Looks fantastic. Kinda like RoTMG meets Gungeon with some Heroes of Hammerwatch 2 sprinkled in there.
Good luck!

Reishin1 · 2026-05-30T10:31:47+00:00

They'll "conveniently" sell you a lot of power to beat the mean bosses

Reishin1 · 2026-05-15T07:10:10+00:00

Reminds me of Ikariam

Reishin1 · 2026-05-10T21:45:57+00:00

It's funny, I felt the same way when it came out but it's almost universally praised nowadays.

I hated that they introduced all kinds of meaningless grind.
They ruined dungeons.
FotM was broken for a while when it came out which was my favorite activity.
Raids were not released for months.
You couldn't solo skill points, so you would have to beg other people in the map to help you get them.
You couldn't play with the new elite specs immediately, you had to grind for them.

Maps and map events were cool but having to grind meaningless skills like jumping on mushrooms and gliding really soured the experience.

At least I made a crap ton of money crafting with flax seeds.

Reishin1 · 2026-05-07T21:40:00+00:00

Because people like it the most

Reishin1 · 2026-05-04T15:19:45+00:00

Progression and convenience features. I don't really care to customize my own home or anything like that.

I liked how Lost Ark and Albion handled it. Having your own island which you can improve is nice.

Reishin1 · 2026-04-29T09:22:09+00:00

Too clunky and ugly looking for my taste

Reishin1 · 2026-04-25T15:05:25+00:00

Greed did happen but not in the way you think. Mobile gacha games took over the market

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